Saturday, November 21, 2009

Making The Grade: A FightStick Story

Posted by MarkMan On February - 7 - 2009

Street Fighter IV is almost here!  If you’ve been paying attention to SFIV news lately, you’ve probably seen the hype and commotion going on about the Street Fighter IV line of accesories from Mad Catz (which are shipping NOW!)… Lets take a look back and see what all the fuss is about, from someone behind the scenes!  Click below for the full feature…

Greetings all!  Some of you readers may know me, some may not know me.  My name is Mark “MarkMan” Julio and I am Associate Product Manager for Mad Catz, Inc. As you may have heard many months ago, Mad Catz has acquired the license to produce official Street Fighter IV game controllers.

A little background info on myself.  I’m in love with arcade sticks.  I have a huge collection of arcade sticks all around my house, at my work desk, in my car, in my garage, EVERYWHERE.  At last count, I was close to 70 arcade sticks ranging from custom sticks, to arcade cabinets, and high end sticks that you might have never known existed.  There is just something about an arcade stick that appeals to my tastes… It chimes in with my deep love for fighting games, the fighting game community, and gaming in general.  To me, the best arcade sticks out there are the ones that you learn to love through experience, exposure, and evolution… There is also that element that just leaves you speechless… Striking strong lines in the build housing, the “wow” in the contrast of colors, and a look & feel that grows on you.  Arcade sticks really are something else.  Works of art, if you will.  Anyways, enough of me ranting on…  Back to Street Fighter…

When the news of the joint project between both Capcom and Mad Catz was initially announced, fans of the Street Fighter genre, and haters in general, gathered their fuel and added to the fire that was their disapproval of Mad Catz…

“That’s right, Mad Catz are making the Street Fighter IV fighting sticks. I hope that makes you as nervous as that makes me.”

Brian Crecente
Kotaku

That about summed up the feeling of many serious fighting game fans.  Although Brian’s words were presented in a more civil manner, compared to the slew of comments that followed this article, it was a very big surprise to everyone. An even bigger surprise was waiting for them.  If they only knew what our team had in store for them.

IGN awarded the FightStick: Tournament Edition with the BEST of CES award for 2009!

Quite honestly, I don’t blame anyone for having ill feelings towards Mad Catz.  I’ve heard the stories everywhere about the memory card that couldn’t or the little controller that stopped working… But… Times change, people change and in this case…  The company has changed. All that is left to change is  the opinion and general perception of Mad Catz as a whole.

I’ve been with the company for a very short time.  As I’m writing this, I haven’t even been there for a year.  I can say that I’ve been there long enough to see that the company is filled with genuine people who have a passion for the industry and a general belief in providing the best possible experience to the consumer.

This particular project first started early in 2008.  Mad Catz senior product manager Chris Carroll approached me with his vision and desire to create a high quality gaming controller for Street Fighter IV.  I was in awe at how passionate and ambitious he was towards the license.  You could really tell that he was an old school fan of the Street Fighter series and our talks/discussions continued as we shared stories about gaming and mostly Street Fighter… The good old days. In turn, I shared my extensive knowledge about arcade sticks and the fighting game community, and helped form the blueprint of what we wanted the product to be like.  After more and more meetings and discussions, I suddenly found myself on board with the project and things started moving fast.  Working with Chris and Mad Catz Industrial Designer, Lawrence Yeung, we set off to take on the market and do justice to the Street Fighter brand.  X-Arcade, Pelican, Nubytech, and even Hori… Our aim was to beat them all.

The arcade stick Dream Team: Roentgen Reyes, Chris Carroll, Lawrence Yeung, and Mark Julio.

Without both Chris and Lawrence at the helm for this project, it wouldn’t have turned out the way that it is now.  I learned so much about the gaming industry and product development in general from these two, and decided it was in my best interest to take it as a learning experience and further develop my skills.

Chris was the project manager across all the Street Fighter IV products.  His dedication/passion towards this franchise helped the company the most, as he made sure things got done and we made all the needed changes when working with our engineers in the US and in Hong Kong.

Lawrence’s exceptional industrial design skills really helped capture the spirit and essence of a Japanese style arcade stick with both the regular FS and TE stick.  As you can see he definitely nailed the look/feel of the Vewlix arcade machine. His initial concepts were also remarkable as well.  Check out some of the selected concept work and mock ups that he worked on below…

One other key member for the Street Fighter team was our art director Roentgen Reyes(R2).  R2 was in charge of the art on the control panel and the beautiful packaging designs for the sticks.  I mean, watch the video below, you have to admit that is the best packaging EVER…


Mad Catz V.P. of Marketing Michael Greco also played a big role in this project by helping us throughout the entire decision making process and from a market/analytical standpoint.  Also big thanks to Darren Grech who also helped with the financials.  Another big player in this project is the CEO of Mad Catz, Darren Richardson.  He’s the other signature on the Tournament Edition sticks’ certificate of authenticity!

Capcom played an integral role and worked closely with Mad Catz throughout the entire development process.  Seth “s-kill” Killian and producer of Street Fighter IV, Yoshinori Ono heavily influenced the design throughout our decision making period.  The end result brings us to the present time…

Street Fighter IV Producer Yoshinori Ono and MarkMan at Comic-Con 2008 in San Diego.

So now CES has just passed and if you’re reading this you might have heard about the Street Fighter IV products coming out at launch.  By this time preorders were already filling up at major retailers… So if you didn’t get one, sorry!  Hopefully you can get one in the near future.  About those sticks…

The Official Street Fighter IV FightStick and FightStick Tournament Edition are both filled with detail and unique features not seen in any other arcade sticks on the market… As with many things in life, it’s what’s inside that counts!

Taking a look at the internal construction of the both FightSticks you will immediately notice how much thought and research has been put into this project. Like many high end arcade sticks (See Hori Real Arcade PRO series and Sega Virtua Stick High Grade), the Street Fighter IV FightSticks give you easy access to both the main arcade stick lever and buttons.

Test mod using a Sanwa bat top and a Semitsu LS-32-01.

On the Tournament Edition FightStick, as mentioned, they will use the exact same parts as the official Street Fighter IV arcade setup, with some extras. This consists of:

  • Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT-SK-W arcade stick lever
  • Sanwa OBSF-30-W (6) for the main six action buttons
  • Sanwa OBSF-30-DH (2) for the far right action buttons
  • Sanwa OBSF-24-W (2) for Start & Select (PS3) or Start & Back (360)

The original Vewlix arcade panel has 6 action buttons with one action button plugged in by a Sanwa button cover. In the SFIV Tournament Edition FightStick we have 8 action buttons total, to give you full access to every button on both the PS3 and Xbox 360 controller, thus furthering compatibility with most games.


The Sanwa parts will only come equipped on the Tournament Edition of the FightStick while the standard edition one will feature our own high quality parts. One unique feature about how the parts are installed on both sticks is that they are connected to the main electronics PCB of the controller via quick disconnect wiring. Quick disconnect wiring is something that has been used in arcades for a long time now and allow for easy replacement of the existing buttons. As long as the measurements are the same (30mm), you’ll be able to easily unplug the existing button’s quick disconnect terminal, pop out the button and replace it with the new one you’d like to install, then plug the quick disconnect terminal back into the new button, and just like that, you have yourself an easy and painless mod. After you get used to it, you’ll be able to swap in/out Sanwa and Seimitsu buttons like a pro.

Labeled wiring terminal makes swapping in and out buttons/configurations a breeze.

Another feature to take notice of is the labeled wiring terminal for all the buttons on the FightStick. As seen in the picture, all the buttons are wired via quick disconnect and plug into a separate labeled terminal that shows you where each button/function should be plugged into. This allows for maximum compatibility with any control setup style you’d like. If you want to wire the main six action buttons to the far right more straight line buttons (for US style tastes), you can easily do so by swapping a few wires. Since they are labeled, you’ll know which ones you need to switch around right off the bat.

Moving to the arcade stick portion of both FightSticks, we have engineered a special mounting plate that is compatible with almost all Japanese style arcade sticks. Obviously it fits Sanwa JLF arcade sticks but it will also fit standard Seimitsu LS-32-01 arcade sticks with some slight know how and elbow grease. They connect easily using the standard 5 pin connector into the separate PCB of the arcade stick component.

The insides of the standard FightStick, as you can see it has the same guts as it’s bigger brother.

If most of the terminology here is too geeky and farfetched for you to comprehend… The bottom line is that BOTH Street Fighter IV FightSticks have been designed for easy customization and the ability to swap out parts painlessly. It should be noted that opening up the FightSticks will void your warranty, but if you know what you’re doing you should be fine. Just know that when you purchase one of these sweet FightSticks, whether it is the standard edition or tournament edition, you have a whole lot of “win” waiting inside.

Check it out!

FightStick Tournament Edition

  • Sanwa parts
  • Vewlix styled case
  • Cable storage
  • Ability to mount the arcade stick to a desk/table (this opens up tons of possibilities if people want to construct their own SF gaming rig)

On both regular FightStick and Tournament Edition

  • 4m cable, longer than any other arcade stick out on the market
  • Quick disconnect wiring and labeled quick disconnect terminal
  • Control module that features real time LED indicator, lock/unlock switch, and dpad switch control
  • Vewlix style button placement/layout

Below is two pictures showing the dimensions and weights when compared to the other two quality arcade sticks on the market. Unfortunately I did not make the comparison for the standard FightStick, but FYI, the stick is 4.25 lbs.

SPEC SFIV FightStick: Tournament Edition
Virtua Stick High Grade
WEIGHT 6.5 lbs
6.5 lbs
HEIGHT 5 inches
4.5 inches
H. LENGTH
16 inches 13.75 inches
V LENGTH
10 inches 9.5 inches

Please refer to the picture thumbnail above for a more visual description of this chart.

SPEC SFIV FightStick: Tournament Edition
Hori Real Arcade Pro Series
WEIGHT 6.5 lbs
5.7 lbs
HEIGHT 5 inches
5 inches
H. LENGTH
16 inches 15.75 inches
V LENGTH
10 inches 9 inches

Please refer to the picture thumbnail above for a more visual description of this chart.

As you can see, the sticks “bring it” when it comes down to the insides and the attention to detail.  Big community names such as Jimmy “ShinJN” Nguyen, Joey “MrWizard” Cuellar , and Alex “CaliPower” Valle have had a lot to say about the Tournament Edition stick, you can even see their review here.

Street Fighter legend, Alex “Calipower” Valle using the Tournament Edition FightStick in competition.  VSHG/SF4 size comparison pic for good measure.

Almost everyone who has played on either of the Mad Catz SF4 sticks can vouch for their comfort and quality.  I’ll stop rambling about this topic and hope that everyone gets to experience this first hand with Street Fighter IV when the game launches.

Thanks for reading this little write up of mine… There is one final note from the community… Something that I want to personally address:

“Madcatz ultra redeemed. You guys better stay in the stick making business. This is too awesome.”

MTHanded
NeoGAF Forums

Thanks.  We’ll be around! ^_^

BTW, here are your stinkin’ art templates (Thanks to SRK for file hosting!):

I used them to make quick templates such as these…


MarkMan would like to extend a special thanks to the following people/communities:

SRK Tech Talk, CAG Fighter Thread, GAF, SDTEKKEN, AkihabaraShop, LizardLick, ShinJN, CaliPower, MrWizard, S-kill, Capcom-Unity, Paik4Life, #capcom, akuma001, haunts, iPlayWinner and everyone else out there that loves arcade sticks AND Street Fighter!

Below are selected links and reviews from the net. Check them out before making your decision on picking up a new stick!

Links & Reviews:

FightStick: Tournament Edition

FightStick

FightPad

47 Responses

  1. Humbag Said,

    Amazing.

    Soo soooooo good!

    Posted on February 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

  2. NaTSuMi Said,

    Are there links to those sample templates? It’ll be cool to use some of them as is already.

    Posted on February 7th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

  3. ShikiMSHTS Said,

    So delicious :3

    I’m ordering the standard stick, with the intention to maybe 3 months down the line or so, upgrade it to Sanwa buttons and stick myself. It’d be my first time, but hey, hopefully someone releases a specific tutorial or something. :D

    Posted on February 7th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

  4. g_hunter1 Said,

    Hype. I cannot wait for my stick to come in.

    Posted on February 7th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

  5. NeptraK Said,

    Great work, guys. I can’t wait until I get my Standard FightStick this week. Thanks for posting the template as well, but it looks like the standard red Vewlix panel design that wanted has already been made. Keep up the good work!

    Posted on February 7th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

  6. TommyUnderwear Said,

    Great piece. Good to see someone who really cares about what they are doing. Will definitely be making a purchase of some mad catz accessories.

    Posted on February 7th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

  7. lonewolfx Said,

    I paid for mine. cant wait to get it. maybe I cant get some of my old skill back? (Not) :)

    Posted on February 7th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

  8. Tony Winsta Said,

    I really wish reviews came out before the stick is unable to be preordered :( because when i saw my first review a while back i went to the store immediately and wasn’t able to preorder :(

    Posted on February 7th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

  9. Travis Nguyen Said,

    Kudos my friends, kudos. Truly remarkable.

    Posted on February 7th, 2009 at 8:19 pm

  10. PineTar80 Said,

    Good job MarkMan !

    Posted on February 7th, 2009 at 8:22 pm

  11. R3LL1K Said,

    Awesome. Templates= Win!

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 12:05 am

  12. SnakeEyez Said,

    damn, I don’t have photoshop to open up the templates. Does anybody know where I can find the templates w/o photoshop?

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 12:27 am

  13. LORTZ Said,

    Let me know when you make more so I can purchase one!

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 12:39 am

  14. CJ Said,

    How do you get that template from this website onto my stick? What type of material should it be printed on? Any websites on this?

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 2:23 am

  15. wakasashe Said,

    Well, I appreciate the behind the scenes. Your passion definitely shines though.
    Many thanks will soon be following!

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 3:10 am

  16. DaigoJr Said,

    Mii WnTs sTicKs In UK NAo.

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 3:43 am

  17. Rob Said,

    Will this sticks be pc compatible?

    Thanks

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 6:15 am

  18. neonxaos Said,

    I second CJ’s question. I like the SFIV art on the stick just fine, but it would be awesome to swap it from time to time.

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 9:15 am

  19. RoninChaos Said,

    When are they making more TE sticks?

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 10:15 am

  20. evil genius Said,

    I’m lovin the sagat artwork. Where can i find art like that for my template?

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 10:20 am

  21. Mason Said,

    SnakeEyez: GIMP Best free image manipulator around, and it works with all of Photoshop’s formats.

    Rob: Yes, the sticks are both PC compatible. The 360 one is better suited for Windows machines, the PS3 one is more general and should be easier to set up on mac or linux, but both will work with either, it’ll probably just take some tinkering.

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 11:17 am

  22. USMCOgre Said,

    Markman has single handedly made Mad Catz relevant to gamers. Someone promote this man!

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 11:37 am

  23. kasprfoto Said,

    i can’t wait to try out my TE stick. i do have to say that the japanese layout will take some getting used to. not the buttons themselves, but rather how close they are positioned to the joystick :P

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 11:37 am

  24. jwpeddle Said,

    This is a fantastic writeup, markman. Thanks for this and thanks for everything you’ve done.

    “How do you get that template from this website onto my stick? What type of material should it be printed on? Any websites on this?” <- anyone able to address this?

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

  25. London Dry Said,

    I’ve heard lots about the “now shipping” as far as people that pre-ordered at Gamestop, anyone know if the case is supposed to be the same with Amazon? I’ve checked my order pretty frequently and the expected arrival date is still about a week after SF IV comes out.

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

  26. izanagisama Said,

    Great job on the write up and the sticks, I’m anxiously awaiting my TE stick, and hope to get at least 1 more, if not 1 more of each product for collection purposes.

    Big thanks for the templates as well.

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pm

  27. Gamogo Said,

    I can’t say enough good things about Hori’s HRAP3s, so if you’ve been motivated to equal or exceed the quality of Hori’s offering, I’m certain you’ll have a fine product on your hands.

    I’m curious to hear the opinions of HRAP3 owners when it comes to comparing the Madcatz Tourney sticks.

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

  28. Hunk Bruntman Said,

    Mark “Markman” Julio has done it again!!!

    MadCatz are back in town baby!

    Can’t wait to pull out some tachi gigas with Vega/Claw (yeah, that’s right…I’ve figured out a way to do it boys).

    Look out tournaments, the Hunk’s comin to getcha. Gootecks, Daigo, Justin Wong, all of these guys are gonna get creamed by Hunk Bruntman.

    Peace out guys.

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 4:21 pm

  29. Icegoten Said,

    I really want to get one of the fight sticks. I will have to wait a few months and find one on ebay for cheap.

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

  30. Ryne Said,

    Hmm…if I create something using that template, what would you guys suggest is the best way to get it on to my fightstick? I imagine using an inkjet and taking scissors to some stock paper isn’t the best way to go.

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 5:11 pm

  31. Rob Said,

    @Mason
    Thanks =)

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

  32. TheBossa Said,

    9 friggin days… for the new age of fighting games to take it’s start, can’t wait for my TE to arrive and if i had moar money i would’ve bought 2 more TE’s, one for local matches ( i don’t want ma buddies to be like “aww why the hori” ) another for factory sealed collection so i can sell it for a few thousands on Ebay^2 when internet 2 arrives =P

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 8:11 pm

  33. Note Said,

    Would love to get my hands on that Cammy template. Throw it up.

    Posted on February 8th, 2009 at 11:10 pm

  34. Chunli Said,

    What a lame puff piece. Sure it uses sanwa parts, but it’s overpriced and looks like crap. Why not spend the extra effort to secure a nice custom built one? The sticks in the I love my stick thread are WAAAAAY better than this piece of crap.

    Posted on February 9th, 2009 at 1:37 am

  35. BemaniAK Said,

    I just need to know 2 things before my worries are gone.

    Does the regular edition FightStick have the custom art feature the Tournament edition has, and does the 360 regular edition FightStick has lag when used on the PC?

    I tell you, the lag on my Wired Rock Band controllers on the PC put me off playing DTXMania so much, it would really be a shame if this controller has lag on my PC, because I’d really like to use a stick for 2DF.

    Eh, might actually make an account on the Forum and stop lurking to get this answer, but I’m planning on getting it shipped from Play-Asia ASAP so I don’t know if anyone else actually has a regular edition yet…

    Posted on February 9th, 2009 at 1:58 am

  36. Dan Said,

    Where can i get a decent joystick without a ball? I don’t see how you could play with a ball joystick?! none of the arcades it with a ball? why release a joystick with it??? it’s silly

    Posted on February 9th, 2009 at 5:56 pm

  37. neonxaos Said,

    Could someone please tell us poor modding newbies how to change that art using the templates? What’s the best material, what resolution do you need, etc…?

    Dan – you could simply buy the standard MadCatz stick and replace the ball with an American stick part, as far as I know. You could even swap the whole square gate stick for an 8-way stick to your liking. It’s supposed to be mod-friendly. However, it does void the warranty, and I’m a total beginner here, so perhaps you should try asking in the forums.

    Posted on February 10th, 2009 at 3:10 am

  38. neonxaos Said,

    Looks like there are some helpful hints in ShinJN’s guide on YouTube! I also had a look in the forums, but there are a lot of differing opinions…

    Posted on February 10th, 2009 at 4:43 am

  39. Bluesman Said,

    LOL @ Valle saying the stick weighs 10-12 lbs.

    Posted on February 10th, 2009 at 9:55 am

  40. Caine Schneider Said,

    Received my FS TE today. Surpised it came so soon, I was thinking next week or later. Very nice box, the flaps are held down magnetically. This one is my first HQ joystiq and I look forward to playing HDR this evening on PSN.

    Posted on February 10th, 2009 at 10:51 am

  41. Caine Schneider Said,

    I can say that the FS TE just works if you plug it into a Windows box. In the Game Controllers control panel it shows up as “PC USB Wired Stick 8838″.

    Posted on February 10th, 2009 at 11:23 am

  42. muaithaitiger Said,

    Can anyone tell me where that Sagat Picture is from, or give a link to it somewhere? I’d really love to make some case art with it, but I can’t find it anywhere on the net!

    Posted on February 10th, 2009 at 11:57 pm

  43. MadCatzのスト4スティック | GAMEKO Said,

    [...] Shoryuken » Blog Archive » Making The Grade: A FightStick Story [...]

    Posted on February 11th, 2009 at 7:47 am

  44. muaithaitiger Said,

    No, not the artwork for the TE Fightstick above these comments, I meant the actual picture of Sagat doing the Tiger Knee, unaltered on the internet so I can mess around with it in GIMP 2.6 and make my own cover.

    I’m thinking of doing a black background with Sagat Kneeing into the SFIV logo, but I’d need the picture unaltered to do that. I can’t find it anywhere! The Cammy Kick one you can find on IGN.com, but the Sagat one is escaping me!

    Any help would be awesome!

    Posted on February 11th, 2009 at 9:37 am

  45. lonewolfx Said,

    you can find the pic a Sagat on ign.com. I think you need to be a insider.

    Posted on February 14th, 2009 at 10:47 am

  46. Fighting Games News Update - 02/16/09 | Hadouken Online - Fighting Games Blog Said,

    [...] Speaking of Street Fighter IV, Capcom sold 86,000 copies on the first day in Japan. Expect similar popularity around these parts. There’s also a very cheap way to unlock all the characters as soon as you buy the game this week. In the meantime, you can put yourself in the game and drool over the Mad Catz FightStick. [...]

    Posted on February 16th, 2009 at 4:53 pm

  47. krazzymoose Said,

    Were you sad that T. Hawk and Dee Jay were not included into Street Fighter IV, well so are the developers and apparently if the fans make enough noise they just might include them after all. So what are you waiting for Sign the Petition already!!!

    http://www.petitiononline.com/capcomiv/petition.html

    Posted on February 18th, 2009 at 10:56 am

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