Evo 2015 Lineup Announced; Street Fighter, Persona, Tekken, and More! Evo 2015 Lineup Announced; Street Fighter, Persona, Tekken, and More!
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Yes, it’s that time again. While it feels like last year’s installment just ended, the folks behind the Evolution Championship Series are ready to announced the official titles for 2015.

This time around, co-founder Joey “Mr. Wizard” Cuellar will be heading to San Francisco, California to meet up with Mike Ross at Twitch headquarters. We’ve included the stream below, so be sure to tune in and catch all the news as it happens.

Watch live video Twitch on www.twitch.tv

Source: Twitch

  • Super Smash Bros 4 Wii U, YAY!

  • JasinWalraven

    Nice line up Great Job Guys!!!

  • Ryan Marsh Thunder Fairweather

    Happy to see Xrd and Smash U on there! I am tired of Marvel 3 though and USF4 is wearing a little thin but it’s not like it won’t be the top game. SF5 for Evo 2016! I want some fresh blood for Evo 2015 so hopefully MKX makes it in. The anime’s fighters feel fresh right now so I’ll be looking forward to seeing BB and Ultimax.

  • Ryan Marsh Thunder Fairweather

    Happy to see Xrd and Smash U on there! I am tired of Marvel 3 though and USF4 is wearing a little thin but it’s not like it won’t be the top game. SF5 for Evo 2016! I want some fresh blood for Evo 2015 so hopefully MKX makes it in. The anime’s fighters feel fresh right now so I’ll be looking forward to seeing BB and Ultimax.

    • Ryan Marsh Thunder Fairweather

      Awesome! Half the roster wasn’t up when I first commented. I am happy to see Persona up there! I know a lot of people hate on KI for some reason but I’m excited to see it again with full season 2 cast this year.

    • MaskedHeroxx

      Sf4 on the biggest stage is always great…I was at capcom cup and it was still super hype

    • jr240483

      personally i avoided SF4 and marvel 3. atrocious online matchmaking that would make any beginner and amateur run the other direction. better off for to stick with GGX sign.

  • AnhVuDo

    Not hating on this line-up but I’m hoping they stream Tekken, DOA, KOF, and Persona side tournaments.

    • quasimoto

      tekken isn’t a side tournament….

      • Korey Mueller

        Neither is Persona….

      • AnhVuDo

        When the article was first posted it only contained this line-up:
        Ultra Street Fighter IV
        Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
        Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
        Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN-
        Killer Instinct

        • Gordon

          Make sure you post before you have all the info, you gotta be first!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Guest

      When the article was first posted it only contained this line-up:
      -Ultra Street Fighter IV
      -Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
      -Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
      -Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN-
      -Killer Instinct

    • MaskedHeroxx

      Go fuck yourself

  • Derek Johnson

    Yoooooooo two anime games in Evo, we fucking made it y’all!

    • Alexander Marquis Starkey

      Should be 3. Blazblue had an amazing showing last year…though I guess it will be kind of dead until CP Extend releases.

      • Birdcake

        I agree, there should have been three. Xrd, P4U, and UNIEL.

        • Get over it, the games are announced.
          Practice for what has been revealed and what will be played.

  • Derek Johnson

    Yoooooooo two anime games in Evo, we fucking made it y’all!

  • s1g@phnx

    Color me surprised, really. KOF13 and Tekken Tag 2 out? Crazy. AND Melee? I fully expect fanboys of all walks of life exploding upon the internet tonight….

    EDIT: WELP, I’m a fool. Never mind…lol

    • Anguirus

      No KOF is pretty sad, but Tekken 7 arcade cab tournament is SUPER hype for 3D fans of all walks

      • tanbu

        “3D fans of all walks”
        Not really. I would rather have console VF5:FS tournament than Tekken 7. I do love arcades, and it’s great to see them being used at Evo for tournaments again, but I don’t care for Tekken.

      • Emezie Okorafor

        Wow, people really put WAAAAAAY too much faith in arbitrary labels.

        Slap the label “3D” on VF, Soul Calibur, and Tekken…suddenly VF, Soul Calibur, and Tekken are nearly identical!

        Slap the label “anime” on Guilty Gear, Blazblue, and UNIEL…suddenly Guilty Gear, Blazblue, and UNIEL are interchangeable games, played by the exact same people.

        Labels aren’t magical…people just act like they are.

        Maybe, we should try evaluating each game on its own merits. Wouldn’t that be crazy?

        • SpiderDan

          Slap the 2D label on SF, Marvel, and MK, and suddenly those are also played by all the same people!

          People use labels. Get over it.

          • Emezie Okorafor

            People use slaves. Get over it.

            No.

            People use lead based paint. Get over it.

            No.

            People use [insert bad stupid thing]. Get over it.

            No.

          • SpiderDan

            In today’s SRK comments, slavery and lead-based paint are the best possible analogy to the term “anime games.”

            Thanks for proving my point better than I could have hoped to.

          • Emezie Okorafor

            Actually, if you READ YOUR OWN COMMENT, you’ll realize that the analogy was for “labels” not “anime games”. And, vague labels have literally caused wars, murder, and all forms of despair in human history. Slavery itself is often the result of labels of skin color, religion, you name it.

            Damn, SRK front page so lazy people don’t even read THEIR OWN posts. I guess that’s why you need labels.

          • SpiderDan

            I suppose if I had read more than the last line of my own comment, I would have seen yet another label (“2D”) that mercifully escaped your protest.

            The label is question is not “jew dogs.” Nor is it “oriental,” or “infidel.” It is “anime games.”

            So yes, people use labels. AND IN THE CASE OF THIS LABEL, GET OVER IT.

          • Emezie Okorafor

            I was trying to make a broader point that transcended just video games, but I guess it went over your head.

            Anyways, no. We won’t get over it. Every time you try to use the term “anime game”, people are going to criticize it. It happened with the last article. It happened with this one. It will keep happening until lazy people stop using it. Get over it.

            Bad labels suck. In all contexts. Don’t use them.

          • SpiderDan

            When did you become royalty? Because the main person who’s always complaining about “anime games” (the term) is you, so I don’t know if the use of the plural word people is accurate.

  • s1g@phnx

    Color me surprised, really. KOF13 and Tekken Tag 2 out? Crazy. AND Melee? I fully expect fanboys of all walks of life exploding upon the internet tonight….

    EDIT: WELP, I’m a fool. Never mind…lol

  • Guest

    Good list. Obviously there are a lot of games so some people will be disappointed, but it feels like a diverse list that’s mostly focused on games that people will still play for at least another year or two after.

  • Guest

    Good list. Obviously there are a lot of games so some people will be disappointed, but it feels like a diverse list that’s mostly focused on games that people will still play for at least another year or two after.

  • Jule Williams

    Damn, maybe 2016 will be the year of the 3D fighters lol

    • Keirnoth

      Tekken 7 not enough man?

      • Steel Baller

        Nope

      • Xeon2

        Gotta have some pokken too y’know?

    • Go2hell66

      i sure fucking hope not

  • DukeMagus

    Well, the Ultimate glitches vs broken chars 3 will be a good show anyway.

  • DukeMagus

    Well, the Ultimate glitches vs broken chars 3 will be a good show anyway.

  • Aaron Mason

    tekken 7 arcade, you got to be kidding me

  • Aaron Mason

    tekken 7 arcade, you got to be kidding me

  • GHNeko

    Melee is baack baby.

    LET’S GO!

  • Bobby Angelini

    2 of my favorite anime games, couldn’t be happier!!

  • Bobby Angelini

    2 of my favorite anime games, couldn’t be happier!!

  • Dwight Reeder

    no KOFXIII makes me sad, hope SNK will announce something soon

  • Dwight Reeder

    no KOFXIII makes me sad, hope SNK will announce something soon

  • Ellie Goulding

    Great lineup. Even though I despise Persona, it’s good to see all kinds of games at EVO.

  • CrimsonHalo2112

    Aww, no Blazblue Chronophantasma 🙁

  • SiriusBusiness

    Blazblu had hypest finals of EVO 2014. Yeah, let’s not have that game again.

    • Justin Grant

      The anime games might as well be the same. :V The fighting system is so similar. Though I do personally like Blazblue more than Persona.

      • d3v

        GG and BB couldn’t be any more different.

        • SpiderDan

          I’m pretty sure they could be more different, since they share lots of common ArcSys mechanics.

          • Emezie Okorafor

            Fatal Fury Special and Street Fighter 2 share lots of common Capcom mechanics, too.

          • SpiderDan

            Yes, so I probably wouldn’t say that those games “couldn’t be more different.”

            Nice 20-year-old reference, though.

          • d3v

            Yeah, but the way the game’s end up playing are quite different. One has longer combos and is more about pressure into landing those combos. The other has shorter combos, but has a bigger emphasis on okizeme and set play. It’s almost like comparing Marvel to Vampire Savior. Similar mechanics (chains, advancing guard, etc.) but the way they play in the end is quite different.

          • SpiderDan

            Let me rephrase it: there are many, many fighting games which are less similar than BB and GG. Hell, even within ArcSys games, HnK is far more differentiated than those two.

            By the same token, I could easily pick any two Marvel games (save maybe the two MVC3s) and say that they “couldn’t be more different.”

          • Cat Astrophy

            No way, a 3v3 game is so much different than a 1v1. BB and GG are not that different. You have to watch it at a high level to see the differences, VS and Marvel comparisons are obvious to a non-gamer.

      • d3v

        GG and BB couldn’t be any more different.

      • Heroking

        That’s very untrue.

      • Ellie Goulding

        Don’t speak on things you clearly have no idea what about.

      • Emezie Okorafor

        And, THIS POST is why people in that “anime” article a week ago were saying that word needs to die when it comes to fighting games.

        Just because a small clump of FGC members slap one label on a WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT GAMES doesn’t magically make all the games the same.

        Life defines language. Language shouldn’t define life.

      • Emezie Okorafor

        And, THIS POST is why people in that “anime” article a week ago were saying that word needs to die when it comes to fighting games.

        Just because a small clump of FGC members slap one label on a WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT GAMES doesn’t magically make all the games the same.

        Life defines language. Language shouldn’t define life.

        • tanbu

          Just because someone doesn’t know shit about the games they’re talking about, doesn’t mean that the term is automatically bad.

          “Anime” is more of a sub-community in the FGC, with the game being more mobility-oriented, as well as more offense-oriented. It’s a vague term used for quick first impressions.

          • Emezie Okorafor

            “It’s a vague term used for quick first impressions.”

            Yes, like all horrible, misleading labels. That’s what makes them horrible and misleading.

          • Heroking

            The term ”anime games” should just die, tbh. A more correct term for them would be air dashers because as you said they’re more mobility based.The MvC series plays very similar to games like GG, BB, P4, ect.

            I feel it’s also one of the reasons why the communities are split because of these terms.

          • tanbu

            “I feel it’s also one of the reasons why the communities are more split because of these terms.”

            Yeah, good point. I was gonna talk about the communities that surround anime games (e.g. Dustloop), and that they are the reason why the terms are applicable; because something unifies these games in the eyes of these people, right? But I can definitely see how it can split the community for games that actually play similarly.

            But then again, there are people who play MvC and don’t like “anime” games for their aesthetic, and if the community wasn’t subdivided like it is, do you think there would be a hardcore playerbase supporting games like GG, BB and P4? These games usually get the cold shoulder for more popular games from the regular FGC.

          • Heroking

            Yeah we all have our preferences, I just personally don’t like how they’re labeled. It’s not the anime community, it’s the fighting game community. That’s honestly what matters most.

            ”do you think there would be a hardcore playerbase supporting games like GG, BB and P4?”

            I do. The labels, imo, seem to carry a bad rep. It’s all fine and dandy of you don’t like the aesthetic of a game or the gameplay, but when a game is labelled as an anime game then it usually won’t last ever long over in the states (GG seems to be the most mainstay tho). It’s a fighting game and that’s what should matter most, imo.

          • As far as i know, we over here in germany call them air dashers.
            Imo
            MvC is, as far as gameplay goes an air dasher, like GG and BB. I don`t
            see a reason to divide them into Anime and what ever MvC is called. With
            that logic we have to call MvC a comic game because it looks like it.

          • SpiderDan

            The real problem that most objectors to the term “anime games” have is the ability to quickly identify the genre. Call them anything you want (e.g. “airdashers”) and the sentiment about the genre doesn’t change.

            It’s like objecting to the term “3D fighter” because “most AAA fighting games use 3D graphics now anyway.” The only real goal of such an objection would be to blur the lines between VF/TK/SC and fighters that do not share similar sidestep/high-mid-low/juggle mechanics.

        • tickles

          I just define anime as airdashing and airblocking.

          • Eric Debourge

            so MvC3 is anime ? jeez

          • tickles

            yeah it is for sure.

          • grezex29

            Well, even beyond the playstyle, a lot of stuff from both Capcom games, and Marvel stuff has some pretty “anime”-ish things about it. Hell, look at the fact that Rose is the physical manifestation of the “good half” of Bison’s soul…There’s nothing WRONG with having a supernatural or mystic origin story like that in a video games or anything, it’s just that realistically most fighters have at least some stuff about them that could be considered “anime”-esque.

          • YoooESOPRTS

            There’s a difference. Street Fighter, KOF, and the other non-anime, non-western fighters may have some anime influence, but you’ve got to be kidding me if you don’t notice the difference between the level of influence between something like SF, and Blazblue…

          • grezex29

            I wasn’t saying some weren’t “more” anime than others, because some are. I was just saying that I consider almost all fighting games “anime” because well…that’s kinda how they come across.

          • Guest

            Most of Capcom are anime…

          • d3v

            Yipes already said that MvC3 is “Anime as fuck” sometime last year.

          • James Purcell

            If MvC3 isn’t ‘an anime fighter’. Then neither is Tatsunoko vs Capcom.

            AND TvC HAS LITERAL ANIME CHARACTERS IN IT.

          • Michael Zaimont

            MvC3 is *extremely* anime, they added a bunch of mechanics (air techs, superflash buffering, hitstun deterioration, etc) invented by games like GG/BB to the Versus/TvC formula, which already was anime to start with. Graphics don’t make a game not anime.

    • Anjon

      When Evo 2015 hits, Chronophantasma will be outdated and its sequel doesn’t have a US release date yet. Considering that Persona 4 U and Guilty Gear Xrd are both recent titles with a more active community, it seems natural that those would be the games chosen. Putting that aside, if your only reason for wanting BB was “it was hype last year”, then why can’t that occur with GG, the franchise that paved the way for BB to even exist?

      • Guest

        it’s because of the lack of original veteran fighters in Guilty Gear. GGXRD won’t be at Chronophantasma’s level of hype unless another GGXRD game came…

        • Bruno Ricardo

          I couldn’t disagree more.

      • SiriusBusiness

        Because GG+r was boring as fuck at Evo 2014?

        • Anjon

          You’re just proving my point. GG had fewer entrants because it was an older game, BB had more because it was more recent. Now EVO 2015 is going to have the reverse.

      • Gogo

        UMVC3 is truly outdated, yet it is treated like if it’s that great and new just because of the franchise legacy, it’s a Capcom game, and its pro players.

        • SpiderDan

          It’s also treated like it has had top viewership at Evo for the last two years running, because it has.

    • Go2hell66

      yea its some bs

  • SiriusBusiness

    Blazblu had hypest finals of EVO 2014. Yeah, let’s not have that game again.

  • Oniros

    BBCP died so we could have 2 anime games this year. Never forget. ;_;7

    • BZ Choy

      But where’s UNIEL though?

      • Oniros

        Sadly, no one will bring in the cash for that one. While I see ASW/Aksys and Atlus fronting the bill for the other 2.

    • TheBlackRabbit

      it’ll be back.

      • Ian Kirk

        I sure as hell hope so

  • BZ Choy

    No UNIEL makes me a sad panda.

  • Streye

    8am is an ungodly time. But the line up is pretty cool. I really wanted to do BBCP this year given how hype it was last year(back dash invincibility into 360 throws was sick), but I can settle for Guilty Gear. Four games to play this year… dang.

  • Streye

    8am is an ungodly time. But the line up is pretty cool. I really wanted to do BBCP this year given how hype it was last year(back dash invincibility into 360 throws was sick), but I can settle for Guilty Gear. Four games to play this year… dang.

  • MaskedHeroxx

    MMMMMAVHEL!!!!! – Yes

    Tekken 7!!! -Hella yea /I should go jus to play that early

    ULRA!!- Yes

    Smash 4 – -_- why

    Mortal kombat X – ok ok let’s see what that game hype will be

    SMASH 2 — FOR EVER MELEE!! 🙂

    • Neoxon

      Smash 4 is the new hotness as far as Smash is concerned, & it’s actually a good game. Plus Nintendo is sponsoring EVO.

      • MaskedHeroxx

        WAWA WHAT THE FUCK.. Do u really believe smash 4 is a good game…you must be a fucking casual, and hav it printed on your forehead

        • Angelo Riggs

          Hold it down bro, both of them are good games, with different metagames.
          While I personally prefer the Project M and Melee metagame of catching your opponent off guard, I respect 4’s slowed down mind games and zoning mechanics. Hell, theres even wavedashing in the form of perfect-pivoting.
          In all, respect both games, and show the brighter side of the smash community. Let’s be happy for both games getting in to this showdown!
          (But fuck! Wheres my project M :V)

          • MaskedHeroxx

            Fuck smash 4 hate to be THAT guy. But it’s a super noob game
            Don’t grasp at straws, perfect pivoting Omg

          • Xeon2

            Yeah, let me know when you can handle 30+ viable match ups with customs on 12 completely different stages as opposed to melee’s 7 viable fighters with 5 stages that are largely the same.

        • Neoxon

          As I told your equally-ignorant friend, I’m actually not a casual. I play Melee, Smash 4, & Project M competitively & travel to tournaments within my state. I also run tournaments over at my campus. It’s people like you who make the rest of the Smash community look bad.

          • MaskedHeroxx

            Your a idiot then

          • Neoxon

            – Says I’m an idiot
            – Types “Your a idiot then”

            Yeah, suuuuure.

  • Thirties John

    Wow, with DOA5 Last Round coming out, they totally snub it?

    • Adiuro

      Well yeah, it’s DOA… And I like DOA. But it’s not big enough to be a main game; Side tourney will still be there for the DOA community.

      • grezex29

        I don’t know if I agree that it’s “not big enough to be a main game”. I think if you gave notice and had it on the lineup it could probably do at least 400. And that’s without the “omg it’s new!” boost that some games in the past couple of years have had on their first times.

        • Adiuro

          And where are you coming up with these numbers? DOA only has like 1-2 major tournaments in which the game is featured as a main game and doesn’t pull a whole lot of people there either.

  • Thirties John

    Wow, with DOA5 Last Round coming out, they totally snub it?

  • MrGoingHam

    Mr. Wizard stay ducking and dodging the Dead or Alive series lol

  • Mecha Ann

    Might as well rename it to ASW and friends 2015.

    • BB_Hoody

      LOL Capcom fighters are still the main attraction buddy. You think that has changed?

  • Mecha Ann

    Might as well rename it to ASW and friends 2015.

  • Phil Wright

    how about just one smash game?

    • Ndebe

      Even better solution: no Smash games in official line up and let it live as a side game. Smash gets plenty of coverage in tournaments, not having Smash at Evo is not a big hit to the smash community. Instead, they should have gave more love more traditional fighters like BB and KoF.

      Only reason why Smash got in was because of the money and the people it drew, which is ridiculous. If all you care about is more money and people at Evo, then you might as well add a LoL or DotA2 tournament at Evo because that is pretty much the same thing as having Smash. Smash has Smash tournaments, so I don’t understand why traditional fighters can’t have their own tournaments.

      • Phil Wright

        Hey I don’t want smash either, but it looks like this shit is here to stay in one form or another, I’d just really like it to be at the most one smash game on the main stage, then maybe a side tournament. I don’t care if these babies refuse to play the new game over “muh melee!!!!”, cut it out and if they don’t like it they can deal.

        I think Smash can have a place at Evo, as much as I hate to admit it, but there shouldn’t be two.

        • grezex29

          Wiz had to do 2 though. He had to put Melee for the absurdly high entry numbers at Apex this year, and he had to put Smash 4 because he wants that Nintendo sponsorship/support money for EVO, lol.

        • TiredOcean

          Why is playing a new game so important? It’s absolutely fantastic that the Melee community has been able to keep the game alive for 13 years, and it’s a testament to how good the game is. Also let’s not forget Super Turbo Revival, and their efforts in keeping ST relevant, which included the absolutely fantastic Tournament of Legends series in the past couple of EVOs.

          I was about to write a small rant about how the “traditional” FGC could learn a thing or two by resisting the urge to collectively bandwagon on a new fighting game every time it’s released. However, I just recalled that it’s happened a couple of times before: Capcom Fighting Jam was quickly shunned as a terrible game and never even made it to EVO, for example. Street Fighter X Tekken also died a relatively quick death within the community (although according to some people it’s a good game now).

          However, my point still stands. New =/= good =/= tourney-worthy.

      • SpiderDan

        I would just like to see how Smash does when it’s not in the “American Dad” timeslot in front of Marvel.

        When KOF13 was in front of Marvel it was the Hypest Game Ever and a Sure Mainstay. Then when it was moved, suddenly no1curr.

        And you can’t say that Marvel benefits from its slotting. Thousands of people turn off their stream as soon as it ends and the “main event” starts.

  • Phil Wright

    how about just one smash game?

  • MasterScrub

    Two anime games? I think I might actually go to Evo again.

  • Phil Wright

    isn’t it about time we stopped with Marvel seeing as people can’t actually get the game anymore and update it? Feels like a game that’s sort of dead insofar as being able to get people into the scene.

    • tanbu

      Just because a game can’t get an update doesn’t mean it should be excluded from a tournament!
      …except for games that sorely need a patch. Like UMvC3.

      • Phil Wright

        I feel like it should be a factor. “Hey this game is great! How can I play it?”

        “Go back in time two years.”

      • Keirnoth

        Marvel 2 lasted 10+ years. Your point?

        • tanbu

          Marvel 2 is a completely different beast. It has infinites and a lot of broken shit, but the game never devolved in those 10 years to “100% combo/infinite, 5 seconds of gameplay until someone gets another 100% combo” that a whole bunch of UMvC3 is (UMvC3 got into that state in way shorter time, too…).

          I really don’t like a game where the commentators have to talk about stuff that’s not happening inside the game because the only thing that’s going on is a foregone conclusion playing out.

        • Phil Wright

          Marvel 2 had it’s longevity extended partially because there were no new games coming out. We don’t have that problem anymore.

          • SpiderDan

            That’s funny, because during MVC2’s Evo run, Evo ran tournaments for twenty one new games. And all of those games were released post-2002.

            Keep the excuses rolling!

          • Phil Wright

            Excuse for what? What side do you think I’m on anyway? 2002 was the first year of EVO with Super Turbo, CVS2 and Marvel 2. After the first year they added a lot of games that were already contemporaries (like 3S, TTT, Guilty Gear etc.). And for a long while after that there really weren’t any fighting games that were huge in the scene. Marvel stayed popular because there wasn’t a huge influx of games that appealed to casuals.

            EVO is bigger now than it’s ever been, fighting games are bigger than they’ve been in a long while so of course the game churn is going to be faster. most of the 21 “new” games you mention are updates or alternate formats, they aren’t exactly going to light the fucking community on fire.

          • SpiderDan

            So I guess this is your way of asking for a list. (and I undercounted)

            2003:
            1. TK4 (first appearance of TK at Evo)
            2. SC2 (first appearance of SC at Evo)
            3. GGXX (first appearance of GG at Evo)

            2004:
            4. VF4:Evolution (first appearance of VF at Evo)

            2005:
            5. GGXX#r
            6. TK5

            2006:
            7. DOA4 (first appearance of DOA at Evo)
            8. GGXXSlash
            9. HSF2

            2007:
            10. VF5
            11. TK5:DR
            12. GGXXAC
            13. SSBM (first appearance of Smash at Evo)

            2008:
            14. SSBB

            2009:
            15. SF4
            16. HDR
            17. GGXXAC+
            18. SC4

            2010:
            19. SSF4
            20. TK6
            21. MB:AA (first appearance of Melty Blood at Evo)
            22. TvC (first appearance of TvC at Evo)

            In total, 22 games (I didn’t even count 3S or TTT, as they were released before MVC2) from 8 different fighting game series were added to Evo during MVC2’s run. And MVC2 outlasted nearly all of them.

            Your line of argument is a losing one. It is not remotely based on fact. You should drop it.

          • Phil Wright

            The first Evo had 3 games. gonna have a lot of first appearances there bud. The fighting game scene was pretty nascent between 2001 and 2008. I’m sorry it was but that helped extend MvC2’s tourney life. If there had been a huge influx of highly regarded MAINSTREAM GAMES then I don’t think MvC2 would have had as long of a shelf life.

            Also how did that list not make my point that there were a bunch of one off games and minor updates?

          • SpiderDan

            Since 2010, there have been 14 new games added to Evo. 11 of them were sequels. And of the 9 games this year, every single one is from a series that’s already been at Evo. This is the massive genre churn you’re talking about?

            The most ironic part is that you are insisting that MVC2 would have been dustbinned due to more active competition… precisely as it’s almost-universally-agreed inferior sequel has dominated the Much More Robust competition in viewership for two years straight.

            On what basis do you claim that a 4-year-old MVC2 would not be running roughshod over the current crop of games in viewership, too?

          • Phil Wright

            If it makes you feel any better I think both of the games are pretty garbage, so I don’t really favor one or the other. If Mr Wizard thought he’d get more people in with a Marvel 2 tourney than 3, he’d probably fucking do it. Seeing as that’s doubtful, he won’t.

            Marvel 3 is popular, I don’t remember the FGC coming to that great conclusion that Marvel 2 is a better game, except among people who played a lot of Marvel 2 and thus like it more.

            It’s the same fucking reason we don’t have super turbo at main stage anymore, get over yourself. none of the games that came out during a lot of MvC2’s life were more compelling or interesting, so it had more of a lifeblood than it probably would have.

        • abcdefgqwerty

          marvel 2 was better than 3.

  • Phil Wright

    isn’t it about time we stopped with Marvel seeing as people can’t actually get the game anymore and update it? Feels like a game that’s sort of dead insofar as being able to get people into the scene.

  • Mike Jones

    So Tekken 7 that is not even going to out by then and nobody has played yet besides those that have access to arcades is in the official line up, yet other games that are being played “right now” and are “accessable” to everyone get ignored? I don’t understand one single bit how this is even slightly logical. How does this support the community? If you really want to play Tekken then put TT2 in there that everyone has access to. This is some huge corporate BS. Like put games in there that are actually played instead.

    • Rockito

      Come on, as if nobody here knew that MONEY is what dictates the lineup and not the so called “community”. You will see games like MKX and Tekken 7 because they are new and the publishers are willing to pay the Evo gang to promote their games. Did I really need to explain this?

      • grezex29

        I mean, we can say this all we want but the fact that SOMETHING got in twice in a row should be all the proof that there’s at least some truth to that, as it got in over games that either had higher EVO 2014 numbers, or higher overall numbers at other tourneys throughout the year.

    • Keirnoth

      Why do you think there’s two Smash games at Evo? It ain’t because they’re good.

      The Illuminati sees dollar signs from those games, so of course they put ’em in.

      • “it ain’t because they’re good”

        Actuallly, it is. A game that gathers 600+ on its first year and 900+ on the following year can’t be called a “bad game”.

        • Flutterderp

          You sound e-sports.

        • TiredOcean

          Yes it can. It can also be called a popular game.
          A game can be both bad and popular.

    • Adiuro

      Tekken players don’t even like TT2, and we’d all rather get a taste of the new hotness. It’s better than dreaming of playing it while we watch Korean/Japanese match videos for a year.

      • Pooh Hardy

        “Tekken players don’t even like TT2”

        I would make a joke about how bullshit this post is but i can’t think of a good joke.

        Either way, that statement is bullshit beyond bullshit.

        • Adiuro

          I know I’m not the only one that quit playing Tekken because of TT2.

          • Pooh Hardy

            you and like 2 others who couldn’t handle how awesome it is

  • Mike Jones

    So Tekken 7 that is not even going to out by then and nobody has played yet besides those that have access to arcades is in the official line up, yet other games that are being played “right now” and are “accessable” to everyone get ignored? I don’t understand one single bit how this is even slightly logical. How does this support the community? If you really want to play Tekken then put TT2 in there that everyone has access to. This is some huge corporate BS. Like put games in there that are actually played instead.

  • Darklurkr23

    2 Smashes Uggh

  • Darklurkr23

    2 Smashes Uggh

    • AriesWarlock

      I know. Like WTF.

      • Guest

        I think because if Smash Bros 4 fails at being competitive they can always have melee to back them up.

        • tanbu

          Maybe if the decision was made after APEX they could have gotten a better idea of which game to support, and only have chosen one.
          But I don’t think that’s likely. They were probably planning on having Smash 4, and a Smash game can’t get in without Melee being there, so two slots were given that way (IMO).

    • Angelica Dos Santos

      I’d hate to have to sit in the grand hall watching those two games. That’s going to be serious torture.

  • Derek Johnson

    Two anime games at Evo? Finally time to do this . . .

    WE’RE FINALLY HERE, COLLUDING FOR YOU
    IF YOU PLAY THE GAMES, YOU CAN JOIN IN TOO
    PICK YOUR WAIFUS IF YOU WANT TO FAP
    AS WE TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS ANIME RAP.

    • Keirnoth

      Something something fap.

  • Jeptha Hines

    Is Tekken 7 actually tournament presence? Or just to try out? Is it main stage or side stage!? Cause if it is just to try and not an actual tourney then it shouldn’t be on this list.

  • Also, Mike Ross and MrWizard made an error during the Stream. They said that no one ever won 3 tournaments in a row. Justin Wong won MVC2’s tournaments in 2002, 2003, and 2004 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_Championship_Series

  • grezex29

    2 Airdashers? Damn, that’s good. And it’s a strong and good overall lineup this year for sure. I mean hey 8 out of 9’s not too shabby, right?

    • datagram

      2? I see 3 airdashers.

      • grezex29

        Ah yeah, I see what you did there. Nicely done, lol.

  • Spencer Steakley

    I wish ST was in.

    • TiredOcean

      I think I should send Mr. Wizard a message somehow to tell him to organise and run an old-school games tournament, seperate from EVO (though with EVO branding). “Old man games” don’t necessarily have to be for old men – I know many post ’09ers who’ve picked up Third Strike and are playing it at an incredible level (shoutouts to 3J in London), and ST Revival is also doing great work in bringing ST back.

      Now I’m gonna list some games I’d also like to see as main events for tournaments, purely for fantasising purposes. Ignore me.
      – SFA2/SFA3 (I’d prefer Alpha 2, but hey, Alpha 3’s more current! /s)
      – Vampire Saviour
      – KoF 98/2002 (if you’re a hipster/Chinese who prefers 97 or some other KoF, imagine I said that instead)
      – Melty Blood AACC
      – CvS2
      – GGXXAC+R (If all of the competition for this game stays with Xrd, that is)

  • tanbu

    I should just stop hating on MK. It’ll make reveals like this easier.

  • Jared Gropper

    I do wish however they had something else other than two Smash games, like skull girls

    • Keirnoth

      The correct answer, is like KOF 13/98.

    • BB_Hoody

      Skullgirls community is nowhere near big enough to justify a spot at Evo. That’d be like Vampire Savior or CVS2 main eventing Evo

      • TiredOcean

        It’d be great to have those games at EVO though.
        I mean, your point still stands: the entry size would not warrant running an entire tournament for VSav, CvS2 or Skullgirls. But they are all fantastic games that really deserve some love.

    • Neoxon

      Smash 4 is the new hotness, & Melee can’t be removed without causing riots.

  • swordsman09

    Is Guilty Gear going to be on PS3 or PS4?

    • Guest

      PS4 duh! I mean KI is on Xbox One! and Smash 4 is on WiiU with Smash controller!

      • swordsman09

        But those are only for those systems because it’s the only option. Guilty Gear has the choice between those who sticked with PS3, or those who upgraded to PS4. Not everyone benefits from having Guilty Gear on PS4.

        • TiredOcean

          To add to your point, a lot of people would lose out actually, as they would have to buy new sticks or PCBs. It would be best to keep the barrier of entry low and run it on a PS3. (Edit: just realised Heroking said the same thing on an earlier comment)

          To those that say “but 1080p” – so what if it runs at 720p? So does most games on the system, and nobody complains.

    • Heroking

      PS3 would be the most logical choice. A lot of people haven’t made that next gen jump yet so some don’t have PS4 sticks yet and such

      • Neoxon

        You also have to consider the fact that the PS4 version performs slightly better.

  • swordsman09

    Is Guilty Gear going to be on PS3 or PS4?

  • Parrot

    why 2 SSB? Smash Bros for the Smash Bros God? Is that even legal?

    • tanbu

      No it aint legal. Twitch stream got shut down by a SWAT team you should’ve seen it.

  • Keirnoth

    Where the fuck is Super Turbo?

    • BixHD

      This is a very good question

  • Don

    WTF 2 SSB games.. what a load of bull sheet!

    • Guest

      I know the lack of ice climbers is stupid… also it’s just brawl 2.0 i dunno if perfect pivoting works competitively! but i hate smash due to missing ice climbers

      • Neoxon

        Hating a game just for the lack of one character is quite ignorant. Smash 4 is its own beast from Brawl & Melee, and it’s a solid game in itself. If the lack of Ice Climbers refuses to let you see that, then it’s your loss.

        • Guest

          Like @maskedheroxx:disqus said WHAT THE FUCK?! Do u really believe smash 4 is a good game…you must be a fucking casual!

          • Neoxon

            Actually I’m not. I play Melee, Smash 4, & Project M competitively & travel to tournaments within my state. I also run tournaments over at my campus. It’s people like you who make the rest of the Smash community look bad.

  • Carlos Alvarez Bailleres

    I have nothing but respect for the Smash community… but why 2 smash games!!! if they cannot figure which one to embrace is their problem. But why are we featuring 2 of them if there are so many other fighting games out there!!!???

    • tanbu

      Melee -> competition, Sm4sh -> Money.

      • Carlos Alvarez Bailleres

        Yeah, I get it. But at the same time EVO in the past had always tilted forward displaying only the latest game in the same series and then giving more room to other lesser known games. Having both Smashes AND Killer Instinct sounds a lot to me like trying to please corporate partners and that worries me deeply.

        • disqusdatbra

          Yeah its really weird, kicking KoF to have two damn Smash games is pathetic. Even BBCP would have made more sense after that godlike finale last year.

        • Wiibiiz

          As an insider, my guess is that the Evo team wanted to run Melee, but Nintendo wouldn’t give them the streaming rights without running smash 4: a sorta quid pro quo. Even though it’s not a good competitive game, Nintendo doesn’t want Smash 4 to lose the spotlight to its 14 year old predecessor. The other half of this is that the smash community is really unusual in terms of who plays what: at Apex 2015, melee has 1038 entrants, Smash 4 has 837 (numbers which in of themselves are crazy), but if you look at the registration there is relatively little overlap between the two games, since they play so much differently than any other two entries in the same franchise. Not justifying the decision, just explaining why it was made.

          • Neoxon

            Smash 4’s numbers are quite impressive for a new Smash game. But Melee’s numbers do justify bringing both.

          • Xeon2

            “Not a good competitive game” *mentions how over 800 people are competing in one tournament in its first year*. Smash 4 is a fine competitive game and I could make my case why, but I think its rather obvious to any who actually plays it competitively.

          • Wiibiiz

            You must admit, much of the game’s popularity as a competitive pursuit is because of melee’s success. I will agree that saying that it’s a bad game competitively was a bit far, but I don’t think that it’s good enough to justify a spot at Evo when one game of the franchise is already going to be there.

          • Xeon2

            but this contradicts that your statement earlier “with minimal overlap”, this implies that Brawl(and yes Brawl’s scene basically moved to PM and smash 4, which explains why the numbers are big) and smash 4 are basically separate entities from the melee scene. Brawl’s pursuit was based on the merits of melee, smash 4’s competitive scene is basically people coming back right before the brawl scene collapsed with plenty of new guys.

            I personally think two games are fine if they play and look nothing alike.

            Smash 4’s frame data is actually very well balanced to accommodate offense and defense custom moves basically remove the bad moves in the game in addition to providing kill set ups and safer attack options to the majority of the cast and occasionally changing how certain members play outright (Toon Link becomes a direct stage control character from a zoner). This results in a massive number of viable match ups beyond potentially even Project M. Smash 4 has at least 12 viable stages to use in addition to the omega stages which grant the soundtrack the chance to shine.

            I love to watch melee for its crazy action, but I don’t really like to play it much anymore. I suppose years of playing Brawl can do that to someone, but I’ve grown much more appreciative of defense and neutral in a fighting game as a result. Smash 4’s careful balance between offense and defense is what makes it my favorite and why I think its a wonderful fighting game and rightfully deserves a place at EVO (but seriously Mr. Wizard, get a powersave and import the custom moveset project into the game so I can enjoy Smash 4’s full potential).

          • Wiibiiz

            There is in no way a contradiction. Saying that a competitive community would grow around Smash 4 without melee is like saying a competitive community would grow around brawl without melee: unlikely to say the least. For instance, smash 4 wouldn’t be at Evo if the melee community hadn’t raised over 200,000 dollars during the spirit bomb to get melee there and cemented smash as a modern fighting game series worth admittance into the rosters of the largest tournaments. In this way and others, Smash 4 is skipping many of the steps that melee had to go through not on the basis of the quality on the game but rather on the basis of the quality of the game it’s associated with.

            I think everyone should play the game they love, but I just don’t think that Smash 4 will last in the long run. If the rest of the roster of Evo was more robust I wouldn’t have this problem with smash 4, but I just think that including two games of the same franchise is a bit ridiculous (even if they do play very differently) because there are so many other deserving fighters that got screwed, like Blazblue.

          • Xeon2

            Melee got into EVO because the community wanted a smash game in, the rather sizable Brawl community supported this venture and basically self destructed Without the Brawl community, Melee would not have gotten back into EVO. Brawl didn’t die slowly, it was a swift death as result of bad press (the smash documentary which did not show the Brawl scene and its forgotten development, hence the surprise by numerous melee players at how far Brawl came from when they played it), a couple poor finals at major tourneys and the arrival of Smash 4 and PM.

            Brawl had HUGE turnouts for years too.

            Smash 4 is a quality game, Melee is a quality game, Many of the people who play smash 4 competitively like Nairo and NAKAT know it as a solid competitive game.

            I would actually prefer if Blazblue appeared instead of other new releases since they’ll have pretty sloppy gameplay compared to smash 4’s 7 months. Don’t point the finger at smash 4 when there are more games that really should not be there (why tekken 7 and MKX? That’s gonna be awful since no one will have had time to put in much like Injustice at EVO 2013).

          • Wiibiiz

            I’ll agree with that up to a point– the Brawl community was instrumental to us getting into Evo. And I actually entered competitive smash through Brawl, so I know that it has some competitive merit, even if it’s not fun to watch to the untrained eye and can get pretty stale over time, which imo is one of the main causes of its death that you’re ignoring. By the time the Unity Ruleset split happened, I knew that brawl wouldn’t stand the test of time.
            I actually said that I wouldn’t have a problem with Smash 4 if the rest of the roster was more robust. I have just as much of a problem with Tekken as I do with Smash 4, if not more. It’s just that those games are getting because money and are only getting one game in. Like it or not, there’s nothing there that’s an aberration to the way these major tournaments are run. Smash 4 AND Melee is highly unusual, imo.

          • Xeon2

            I have no issue with tournaments running different games in the same series, its just that I prefer that those games in question actually have time to develop and players time to practice. I have a bad feeling for the showings of Tekken and MKX while Melee and 4 will have good rounds.

            I really like smash 4 when custom moves are on, without them, the game really isn’t that interesting to me since my main in Brawl and 4 is Falco. Falco’s neutral sucks in 4 without customs (lasers suck, non frame cancelled Dair isn’t great too) but with them he gets kill confirms, better projectiles (explosive blaster and Void Reflector), better neutral (Fast Fire Bird), an all around more interesting character. I really hope down the line customs become more widespread since we’re basically locking out half the depth and a huge amount of the match up potential this game has at the moment.

    • Imagine if EVO had picked MvC2 and MvC3 in 2011???? Yeaaah….double standards…

      • Carlos Alvarez Bailleres

        But they didn’t, so I don’t know what you’re to to get at…

        • They didn’t in 2011, but in 2015 they did it for Smash.

          But I guess you’re right, apples and oranges. The MvC2 community wanted to make the jump for MvC3. The Smash community doesn’t…

  • ORLY for USFIV and UMvC3
    YAY for Xrd and P4AU
    WUT for Sm4sh and Melee
    LOL for Arcade Tekken 7
    :(((( for KoFXIII and BBCP

  • Guest

    Cause they’re both gathering 1000+ entrants easily for each game and no one said we’ll get Melee AND Sm4sh on Sunday, on the main stream.

    Get ready for Melee finals on Saturday on SRKEVO2

    • SpiderDan

      Then maybe we’ll see whether Melee viewership is real, or whether it’s the same “people tuned in early waiting for Marvel” effect that we saw with KOF13 a few years ago.

      • Bones

        Videogame Bootcamp just recently reached 50,000 viewers during Melee at Paragon (an Apex qualifier). The Evo numbers don’t seem very ridiculous, especially when you take into account the Breast Cancer hype in 2013 and Nintendo-cancelling-Evo-stream hype. Both topics were all over gaming websites and news sites in general. Obviously some people were watching Melee while they waited for Marvel, but I know I wasn’t the only one who came primarily to watch Melee and decided to watch Marvel after.

        I really hope Melee gets the Sunday finals, especially since it’s almost guaranteed to have more entrants based on Apex’s numbers.

  • the7k

    Evo 2015 Lineup Announced: Unreleased Games, Airdashers, Smashes and more!

    • Guest

      and animu games lol!

  • FUCK the Melee pandering, just try the new game out already.

    • Guest

      you sure perfect pivoting and the lack of ice climbers will work competitively?

      • Bruno Ricardo

        Honestly I couldn’t care less about Ice Climbers.

        • Xeon2

          I hate that character, most polarizing character in smash ever.

      • No, that’s what we’re gonna find out :p

  • Bruno Ricardo

    KoF XIII got shafted, good. That game was getting boring real fast. But UMvC3 making it another year baffled me. Honestly, this game needs to be left to die in peace.

    • Guest

      the Mahvel fans will riot if they did lol! I’m hoping for an MVC4 announcement soon

      • SiriusBusiness

        Yes all 10 of them that will be there specifically for that game this year. And no hope of MvC4 ever now that Disney owns Marvel. They have their own game-making studio.

        • Neoxon

          Marvel still holds the MvC games in high regard, referencing them in their comics & cartoons quite often. I do think we’ll see an MvC4 eventually, just not for a while. At least, maybe around the time of Avengers: Infinity War (Part 2).

    • Emilkof

      Kof is a big international game, I think it was a mistake to remove it…

      • Bruno Ricardo

        But XIII was the most boring. Classical characters were absent (Yamazaki, Mary, Oswald, Whip to name a few), Drive System absolutely broken, many characters lacking some attacks (where’s Mature’s Massacre?), and so on.

      • Nathaniel Montes

        Substandard console online, not enough character variety in last year’s EVO Top 8, negative perception of lack of new players, and last year’s EVO Top 8 commentary being normalized compared to EVO 2012’s/13’s commentary must have contributed to KOFXIII’s removal. Sure, Marvel 3 has the some or most of the same issues but Marvel is a brand name, KOF is a fighting game franchise.

    • SpiderDan

      Yes, they should eliminate the game with the top viewership for the last two years running. Give the people what they want!

  • Mista X

    Two slots for Smash? Come on, really?

    Removal of KOF is also makes me upset.

    Happy to see Xrd and Ultimax though. Let’s go!

    • Guest

      maybe they want to test SSB4 and if it fails at least melee is there they will remove the new iteration.

      • This. Melee and Sm4sh is a test. If Melee still gathers the bigger crowd, I don’t see Sm4sh coming back in 2016 (or the 2 slot opening)

  • Guest

    IF ONLY EVO WAS A ONE WEEK EVENT LIKE E3! THEN WE CAN HAVE MORE EVENTS AND MORE FIGHTING GAMES!

    • Adiuro

      And then I’d have to take a whole week off from work…

      • Nathaniel Montes

        Upgrade your life to where this is not an issue, then.

        • devlkore

          Yeah fighting game tournaments should be elitist and for the rich only.

          Get your poor hands off the stick.

          • Nathaniel Montes

            I sacrificed EVO for the past several years since life wasn’t right. I am not not rich whatsoever but life now if a lot better for me financially than it was when I last attended EVO.

  • Sincerely, The Jerk

    🙁

  • MELEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111ONEONEONE

  • Richard N

    Take a shot for every comment that is completely satisfy with the line up! Guarantee you’ll walk out of this one sober.

  • daisetsu 100

    what i find amusing here is the number of consoles the organizers would need to set up..
    USF4 – 360 or PS4 maybe ?
    UMVC3 – 360
    SSBU – WIi U
    GGXrd – PS4/PS3
    KI – XB1
    MKX – PS4/XB1
    P4AU – PS3
    SSBM – GC/Wii
    Tekken 7 – arcade cabs!

    i’m looking forward to this event.

    • Neoxon

      Where’s what I think will go down.

      – PS4: USF4, GGXrd, MKX (Capcom may provide PS4s as per their partnership with Sony)
      – XB1: KI
      – PS3: P4AU
      – 360: UMvC3
      – Wii U: Smash 4
      – GC: Melee

    • Derek Johnson

      I’m thinking we won’t be seeing next-gen consoles outside of the Wii U at Evo. I’m pretty sure most folks don’t have PS4/Xbone arcade sticks yet.

      • Angelica Dos Santos

        Wii U is a last gen console.

  • King9999

    Wow, great to see both Smash 4 and Melee in the official lineup. I see some people asking why both games are in the list. My question to you is: isn’t it obvious?

  • Immodesty

    Ultra Street Fighter 4 & Guilty Gear Xrd: Yes, good. Both relevant, popular titles with healthy competitive scenes.

    Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Is anyone actually still playing this? Serious question. I can’t help but feel as though this is in solely because Capcom demanded a bigger presence at EVO, in which case I would’ve rather seen one of their older titles. SF2HD, Darkstalkers, or even MvC2 would have been better than this hot mess of a game.

    Smash Bros. Wii U & Smash Bros. Melee: I’m one of the people who likes having Smash at EVO, but really? Did we need both of these games in one tournament? I guess this is a form of reparation for all those years EVO organizers snubbed anything Smash because it wasn’t a “real” fighting game.

    Killer Instinct: Hard to say no to that Microsoft money, huh guys.

    Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: Well well, this is a pleasant surprise! I think BlazBlue would have made more sense as a second ArcSys fighter for a couple of reasons, but I can see where the Japan-only update could make that tricky. Haters gonna hate and all that.

    Mortal Kombat X & Tekken 7: Okay, this is where my mind gets blown. Nobody has any idea whether or not these games are even viable for tournament play yet. MKX will at least have the benefit of getting a console release a few months before EVO, but Tekken 7 will still be an arcade exclusive. This means players from certain regions have close to a zero percent chance of becoming proficient with the game in time for the tournament. It’s obvious both of these titles’ developers bought their way into the event. I know this is the nature of the beast, but it still kind of sucks when you have slots being taken away from more deserving games in order to accommodate what basically amount to sponsored advertisements for new games. It makes it harder to take any of this seriously.

    Just my $0.02.

    • Jason Orozco

      More KI hate? Man SRK sucks.

      • Immodesty

        KI isn’t a bad game (at least I don’t think it is), but the way the devs handle content distribution makes it less than ideal for organized tournament play. Tekken Tag 2, KOF XIII, and BlazBlue all would have made more logical choices for an EVO title (just to name a few) as they have equally large player communities and don’t employ a quasi-freemium design model. But because KI was designed to be a selling point for the new Xbox, Microsoft naturally wanted it featured in a major tournament and very likely paid for its inclusion.

        • Jason Orozco

          Freemium? Have people on srk actually played the game? Every character is viable at tourneys. Nobody did the pay for one character thing. You buy the full game and that’s it, you have it. Its sad ki gets so much shit because it’s an Xbox exclusive.

        • KI has DLC characters. KOF13 has DLC characters. BlazBlue has DLC characters. TTT2 has DLC characters.

          I honestly don’t think the argument that KI is somehow “less than ideal for organized tournament play” holds any water. If being dependant on internet connections, user accounts, patches, downloads etc is a dealbreaker, I feel like Melee is the only game on the Evo roster that’s “ideal”. It’s the only game on there where you can have a disc and a memory card and be good to go.

    • Damiano De Titta

      guess it’s too hard for some people to be tollerant, about games they just hate for no reasons.
      Sad, sad community this is.

    • abcdefgqwerty

      yeah im not a fan of marvel 3. I would take marvel 2 or any other game instead. A lot of its viewers are simply waiting for ultra or watching just because its on at prime times. I dont know anyone that still plays it
      I doubt its going anywhere though the powers that be will keep it going

  • Guest

    huh.. No Kof XIII and BlazBlue?!! I’m not interested at all this year..

  • Adeel Hashmi

    No Kof xiii and Blazblu??!! I’m not interested at all this year! 🙁

    • Nathaniel Montes

      Substandard console online, not enough character variety in last year’s EVO Top 8, negative perception of lack of new players, and last year’s EVO Top 8 commentary being normalized compared to EVO 2012’s/13’s commentary must have contributed to KOFXIII’s removal. Sure, Marvel 3 has the some or most of the same issues but Marvel is a brand name, KOF is a fighting game franchise.

  • xero18

    I find it funny how many people think Marvel is dead lol. Evo for the longest of time was a Capcom dominated event so to think they would get away from them is absurd. Especially Marvel which never fails at bringing hype, even in the form of UMvC3.

    • Bruno Ricardo

      Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 IS dead. The absolute worst of the franchise, highly unbalanced and, in the late 2 years or so, plays like “first hit wins”, or “infinite – a bit of gameplay – more infinite”. As for Capcom dominating the event, you’re right. Only that can explain this game in EVO despite having MANY better options.

      • Guest

        Also no MEGAMAN or X in MVC which is sad! I want MVC4 with Megaman X and Samanosuke! I’m not happy with Smash 4 with no ice climbers! 🙁

      • SpiderDan

        There’s also the tiny detail of viewership, in which UMVC3 would be literally the last game to remove.

      • xero18

        That’s an arguable statement always will be. What can be said is that everything you stated… is Marvel. It’s not a surprise. I’m assuming you’re new to Marvel in general cuz I don’t know you so don’t take this in a condescending tone but it’s been like that since the start. Whether it’s infinites, traps, dominating zoning, guard breaks etc the game, while not as fun or interesting as say MvC2, still maintains the same appeal that the series is known for. This is what brings the hypes and keeps the game alive. The game is only “dead” to most the people who weren’t as interested as they thought. “Dead” games don’t garner the numbers that Marvel still brings, whether in attendance or stream monster numbers.

    • People complain but the game still gets the second most views and entrants at 99% of tournaments. Including EVO the past 3-4 years.

      • SpiderDan

        UMVC3 got top viewership last two Evos.

        I can’t find individual numbers for 2012.

        • abcdefgqwerty

          yeah but any game will get good viewership if you stick it before/after ultra sf 4 matches because people are there waiting since the schedules are never right

          • SpiderDan

            That would be a good theory, except that thousands of viewers who tune in for Marvel promptly turn off their stream when SF4 starts up.

            Over the last few years, the game before Marvel has had consistently strong viewership (likely due to the effect you just mentioned), followed by Marvel with top views, and then declining views for SF4.

  • Erhe R.

    Persona and two party games is fine but UNIEL is not? Once again money rules over everything else.

  • ¡¡Meleeeeeee!! ;____; Yesh~

  • Go2hell66

    persona got in over blazblue???? umm ok….

  • RunningWild1984

    KOF98UMFE should of replaced XIII.

    • Nathaniel Montes

      I want to agree but the quality of play is still not quite as known here in the US as it is in everywhere that has had access to KOF98UMFE since release.

  • Don Barracuda

    Forgive me for my ignorance, but why are there two Super Smash Bros games?
    Side note – Bring back PowerStone Capcom!

    • Ni ~Algidus~

      money

    • Same reason there are two Capcom games and two Arc System Works games. Both are hugely popular, and have very active scenes.

      • Don Barracuda

        Again forgive my ignorance, I’ve played neither games but on appearance they look exactly the same, whereas SF4U and MvC3 are very different. It would be pointless having the previous iteration of SF4 on the main stage alongside the current, wouldn’t it?

        • They are similar, sure, but not the same. Character roster, balance and game mechanics all have significant differences. A closer comparison might be something like having both SF2 and SF4 at the same event.

          • Don Barracuda

            interesting, thanks for explaining, I guess I’ll tune in and see for myself.

  • Jeremy

    This is cool Mr. Wizard. I am perfectly fine with this lineup. I’m curious to see how the arcade setup is going be for Tekken 7. That should be interesting. To all those looking for KOF and others, if y’all really want that old school action, do what the MK9 faithful did. Bring your friends together, pool up and create a side tournament. But for the main games you have to keep moving forward. We cannot stay stuck in the past. Showing the games of today in that top level play is how you create interest and Marvel is still very much alive after seeing the unique team sets, hard workers like Insaynne, RayRay, and Jan, put that work in and make top 8, this year should be the climax for UMVC3. Give one last sendoff for Melee, shoutouts to Prog, hopefully he’ll be in attendance to support the Smash or watching it from stream sending his shoutouts.

    Only game I was a bit perplexed not to see was UNIEL, but this is fine. I really like the lineup, should see some very interesting concepts, especially in MKX, I wonder if tournaments in MKX may fall in a similar fashion to wear winner is obligated to stay with their character AND variation of the character. It’s gonna be very fun for 2015 and the CAPCOM PRO TOUR is back folks. This will have a big prize pool and a critical spot for Capcom Cup and that $500,000 prize pool in December.

  • Stoopid_Snot

    UMvC3 instead of Marvel’s Conquest of Champions? but why?

    sorry, couldn’t help myself 😛

  • BrothersBogard

    without KOF this year was sad

    • Nathaniel Montes

      Substandard console online, not enough character variety in last year’s EVO Top 8, negative perception of lack of new players, and last year’s EVO Top 8 commentary being normalized compared to EVO 2012’s/13’s commentary must have contributed to KOFXIII’s removal. Sure, Marvel 3 has the some or most of the same issues but Marvel is a brand name, KOF is a fighting game franchise.

  • Death Metal

    No DOA5LR… -_-

    • Nathaniel Montes

      Last Round might get it’s shot next year and Last Round is next-gen specific.

  • RaptorFactor

    did we really need melee again?

  • Flutterderp

    Least hype Evo in recent memory.

  • lol@u

    No KoF, yet we have 2 Smash games and 2 anime fighters (one of which isnt even UNIEL, one of the best anime fighters out), and 2 games thats not even released yet. Also no DOA5 despite all the community support it gets.

    I guess it’s true, money really do the talking.

    • Nathaniel Montes

      SNK needs to step up hardcore in the coming year(s). Smash gets entries and unique viewership numbers which potentially equal revenue. DOA5 Last Round is next-gen exclusive, thus its exclusion from this year’s lineup.

      • lol@u

        DOA5LR is not next-gen exclusive lol.

  • Kongk4

    No “Skullgirls should have been on this list” remarks? I’m proud of you all.

  • eilegz

    bah KOF 98 UM should be there instead of 2 smash?

    • Nathaniel Montes

      I don’t particular want to see China/Japan/(potentially)Latin America dominate a game’s tournament bracket with no or little current challenge from players currently living in the United States of America. It will make the tournament a bit more predictable than what most are accustomed to when it comes to viewing a competitive video game tournament unfold.

  • jayjay

    Dang i thought doa really had this year. Alot people seemed to have thought so too,since we had a pretty good tournament year. Alas, snuff again…

  • Ian Kirk

    I just noticed theres 2 smash games on the roster -__-‘ /sigh wtf is up with the fgc n these weeaboo games lately? Might as well throw dive kick in again… Looks like im stayin home this year…

  • hahnchen

    No Nidhogg.

  • Boebie

    The lack of Skullgirls is not surprising, but still depressing.

    • BB_Hoody

      What justifies Skullgirls main eventing Evo???

      • TiredOcean

        There isn’t really a good justification, if we consider player count.
        So it’s not surprising.
        But it’s a well designed and a good game.
        So it’s depressing as well.

  • DragonOtaku

    Ok this list is great but UMC3 and melee need to fucking die

    • Neoxon

      They bring the viewers & the hype, neither can be removed without causing riots.

      • DragonOtaku

        There is nothing new its the same shit from those game they need to die

        • Xeon2

          But people like them, give the people what they want.

  • Nathaniel Montes

    Unique viewer numbers and revenue generated from said unique viewers matter more than your game whether it is part of the lineup or not.

    • TiredOcean

      Thanks, eSports representative!
      I guess you also approve of no dirty words on commentary, lest it get shutdown by angry mothers letting their 8-year-olds watch. That would hurt our max CPM, which would definitely be a bad thing for the community.
      We should also do what AGDQ did last year, and seperate the crowd from the players, and ban cosplay and plushies from entering the view of the camera or the competitors. You know, because they can be distracting, or be “inappropriate” for our stream.
      /s

  • killpeek

    No KOF

    • Nathaniel Montes

      Substandard console online, not enough character variety in last year’s EVO Top 8, negative perception of lack of new players, and last year’s EVO Top 8 commentary being normalized compared to EVO 2012’s/13’s commentary must have contributed to KOFXIII’s removal. Sure, Marvel 3 has the some or most of the same issues but Marvel is a brand name, KOF is a fighting game franchise.

      • killpeek

        i agree… sad that 2014 was a very meh year for KOF… 2012 and 2013 had great finals.

        • Nathaniel Montes

          I don’t blame just 2014. The blame came all the way from KOFXIII console release. Release a game with nonredeemable online play and a certain few characters that show up constantly in tournaments and this is the result.

  • BB_Hoody

    USFIV. No surprise there. Good game with a large following and view numbers, and is still very relavant.
    UMVC3. How such a broken mess of a game with no updates is still pulling in so many competitors and viewers (which does justify its
    spot) is beyond me… I guess when the Marvel brand is slapped on something it automatically succeeds.
    Killer Instinct. I like this. Pretty cool game with a respectable sized following and is relevant. Combo heavy but still has a focus on ground footsies which I like.
    Mortal Kombat X. Game’s not even fucking released yet -_-
    Guilty Gear Xrd and Persona Ultimax. Eh I don’t really care for “Anime” fighters ( Although I may make an exception for Guilty Gear ) but it’s nice to see such diversity in the line up and these games have a decent following.
    Smash Bros Melee and WiiU. Did we really need TWO!? That’d be like MVC2 and UMVC3 or 3rd Strike and USFIV at Evo in the same year! People would rage so hard and bash Capcom and Evo, but Smash gets a pass? BS!
    Tekken 7. like MKX -_-

    • Nathaniel Montes

      Marvel is an American brand name. This is partly why Marvel 2 stayed in the spotlight so long. This is also partly why Marvel 3 with it’s specific detriments is still in the spotlight.

      • SpiderDan

        DC is also an American brand name, which explains why Injustice is being given similar billing at this year’s Ev… wait, what?

        I guess the “American brand name” is why MK9 was also a staple of Evo for so many years.

        • Nathaniel Montes

          DC hasn’t had the fighting game footprint in the US that Marvel still has. Capcom developed Marvel games never had the (supposed) perception of “buying” an EVO game roster spot.

    • Neoxon

      Correction: The MvC brand makes it automatically succeed in the FGC. Rise of the Imperfects didn’t do so hot.

    • Xeon2

      Smash gets a pass because of EVO 2008, Wizard, Nintendo and the community are working to prevent that.

  • salindy13

    Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 is still at Evo. FailFish
    Damn stupid game.

  • SpiderDan

    I find it hilarious that so many people seem to think “other than the entrants and the viewers, there’s no reason to keep UMVC3 at Evo!” is a valid argument.

    You may notice that I’m doing a lot of Marvel defending in the comments below. That’s because, unlike 99% of the commenters, I was around when Marvel was treated far worse than “anime games” and “3D fighters” and “Smashers” are now. Marvel used to be considered a scrubby mashfest, where the first person to land a low short would dial-a-combo to victory.

    And I also take some small measure of pride in being one of the main promoters (along with two other people, Viscant and Eddie Lee) that got Marvel popularized and accepted as a legitimate tournament game.

    So all of the people who are complaining about “anime labels” and “American brand names” need to do less whining and more showing why their game deserves the kind of cachet that Marvel has built up over the last 15 years.

    • Nathaniel Montes

      I don’t care as much now as to what game made or didn’t make the lineup. I also am part of the 1% that was around when all of the Capcom developed Marvel games were treated harshly. If anything, no other fighting game franchise not name Street Fighter has as much built up than Marvel here in the United States.

  • Edwin Obando Chacon

    TEKKEN 7 and MK X arent even out. Tekken isnt announced for consoles!! LOL. This lineup just obey to commercial reasons…

    • Nathaniel Montes

      “Commercial reasons” have been in play at EVO for several years now. EVO needs revenue to continue operating.

  • CasualRemy

    Nothing says Kof XIII is offically no longer relevant quite like being absent from EVO 2015’s lineup.

    • Edwin Obando Chacon

      And whats EVO? Because isnt on Evo that doesnt mean people doesnt play that game anymore. What about Blazblue, theres no any more people playing BB because is not on the shitty evo roster?

      • CasualRemy

        Relax, will you?

        • Edwin Obando Chacon

          No, you came with you troll comment, I dont want to relax…

          • CasualRemy

            Good point.

  • Wiibiiz

    I will say this. When melee was kicked out of Evo, we as a community continued to play the game at such numbers and with such passion that our community became impossible to ignore. If you feel snubbed by this year’s decisions, go out and show Mr. Wizard why keeping you out of the circuit was a mistake. If you believe your game should be at Evo, prove it.

  • Matt Crane

    Great lineup! Sooooooo glad Guilty Gear made the cut! Really hope we get an awesome top 8 for Xrd, hopefully with at least ONE player who ain’t from Japan 🙂

  • Bushin_Cat

    Ok, I wouldv’e gladly replaced one of the Smash games (don’t care which) for DOA5U. Come on, we need more 3D fighters.

    • supersprite

      ^THIS! I actually prefer 2D play mechanics, but the inclusion of DOA is way overdue. I rest my chin over fist as I thoughtfully ponder its annual omission. Looking forward to a full face palm in 2016.

  • If a Marie player wins Evolution 2015’s Persona 4 Arena Ultimax tournament, I will cut my head off with a chainsaw.

  • Yassine Karma

    People just needed to look around a little and they’ll know the japanese
    have a new update of the game ( BBCP 2.0 ). A version that won’t come
    out on consoles before april 2015 ( labeled BBCP Extend ). And that’s for
    the japanese version.

    The US/EUR version won’t be out before the end of evo probably.

    So
    it was pretty expected that BBCP won’t make it this year, unless you
    wanna make the japanese players play an outdated version.

    But hey, we have TWO anime fighters this year. HOW ABOUT WE FU**ING CELEBRATE ? 😀

  • shinjojin

    Why are there two Smash games in this lineup!? It should be one or the other damnit! Also, Tekken 7 and MKX aren’t even out yet.

    Man, I can’t believe KOF13 and BBCP got removed for this bullshit! >:(

    Edit: I read Yassine’s comment about BBCP and now I understand why BBCP was removed. But the KOF13 removal is still bullshit. -_-

  • Kingkarl12341

    Not super upset about the line up marvel last year was hype j Wong. I do feel though that marvel has become like people are saying a game of infinites and slowly killing characters with infinates we have to see what happens tho I’m interested in the new games tho smash, mortal kombat and tekken 7

  • toptiertariq

    Whoa this year is gonna be hype as hell, damn i can’t wait

  • Tuen

    I am SUPER hyped about Smash 4, Smash Melee, and Persona. I’m bummed KoF isn’t there anymore :-/. Also, Marvel. I’m always hyped about the series, but I generally hear so little about it now, I’m wondering how it’s fairing. Like, legit, I just don’t know and I hope it’s doing well. I still want Chris G to get an EVO title (Popular opinion… I know, right?)

  • Ecchitori

    Hype for Persona 4 Ultimax. Would like to see Yume and his Aigis again.

  • Isaac

    There is absolutely nothing to change with this list. Good work, Evo team.

  • comoesa

    bb babbies and kof guys btfo

  • Kl3p_co.

    So weird that altho uniel got so hyped from basically everyone playing airdashers, it didn’t get in

  • Gesik555

    Marvel will be so hype

  • No BlazBlue as a main game makes me a little sad, but otherwise that line up is stacked!!

  • jr240483

    hopefully there will be like a level based tournament too cause it doesnt make sense at all for a newbie or amateur to face a tournament professional

    • BB_Hoody

      Um…do you not understand what EVO is? It’s esentially the Olympics of fighting game tournaments except it’s every year. The best of the best from around the world are there to compete to see who’s top dog in their respective games. So it doesn’t make sense at all for a noob/amatuer to compete at EVO. If one chooses to compete it’s because they feel confident enough to compete with the best. If one feels their skills are not on par with the best or even intermediate players they best spectate. No need for noob level tournaments at EVO. That’s what local scenes are for.

  • Trevor Clarke

    MKX made it, sweet!

    Can’t wait for April now

  • JoanLein

    like i say in the pic, get ready my friends.

  • Terry Kazama

    Wow, But Why No Election to KOF XIII ?

  • Blazblue, KOF, and Injustice died so Guilty Gear, Person, and Mortal Kombat could live. Looks like DOA5 may never get to EVo since there has been 3 revisions but they still have not made it to evo.

  • Terry Kazama

    Oh heavens, Super Smash Bros Wii u and all thatemotion, but that step KOF XIII games

  • Erryl

    I’m now gonna practice SSB4 Wii U every weekend now.

  • Sanicfan69

    I’m glad the broken (yet insanely fun) Marvel 3 is here and Persona 4 is gonna be sick.
    I don’t think melee should’ve made it in… I think smash 4 is enough. I wanted to see Virtua fighter 5 but I knew it wasn’t gonna make it.

  • KOF is dead, Blazblue Chronophantasma got ruined with the 2.0 update, and any other fighters don’t have enough players to make it to EVO.

  • Hope we get a edition select side tourney so people see that it is NOT broken so that we can get edition select as a main game next year.

  • Charlon

    Meleeeeeee <3