Capcom’s Tomoaki Ayano Assures Ultra Street Fighter IV’s Additional Characters Aren’t Simple Street Fighter x Tekken Rips Capcom’s Tomoaki Ayano Assures Ultra Street Fighter IV’s Additional Characters Aren’t Simple Street Fighter x Tekken Rips
Capcom’s Tomoaki Ayano recently spoke to VG24/7 regarding the new characters being added to Ultra Street Fighter IV. In response to four of the... Capcom’s Tomoaki Ayano Assures Ultra Street Fighter IV’s Additional Characters Aren’t Simple Street Fighter x Tekken Rips

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Capcom’s Tomoaki Ayano recently spoke to VG24/7 regarding the new characters being added to Ultra Street Fighter IV. In response to four of the characters (Hugo, Poison, Elena and Rolento) having previously appeared in Street Fighter x Tekken, Ayano-san assured that they aren’t just straight rips from that game. He states that simply copy and pasting them over from the previous title would result in them being the best characters in the game due to Street Fighter x Tekken’s system mechanics.

Users do not need to worry, because the new characters will definitely not just be copy and pasted from Street Fighter x Tekken. If we did that, they would undoubtedly be the strongest characters in the game.

The reason for this is down to the difference in gameplay systems, most notably Boost Combos. Boost Combos formed the basis of the battle system in Street Fighter x Tekken and do not exist in Street Fighter IV. Besides adjusting the characters for a game engine without Boost Combos, each will need to have many moves added as well, such as Ultra Combos and Super Combos.

A simple rip wouldn’t allow us to make the necessary changes, so a lot of work is going on behind the scenes.

Make sure to visit VG24/7 for the full interview.

Source: VG24/7

  • Crow Winters

    Capcom’s Tomoaki Ayano preemptively stated the obvious today in order to keep eyes focused on the company’s latest project, Ultra Street Fighter IV.

    • Geoffrey Tasker

      I wouldn’t say preemptively…people were complaining about that since it was announced

    • Louis Lam

      If you’re on youtube/capcom unity/whatever gaming journalism website it’s not so obvious.

    • dima

      how are they going to keep my eyes focused for a half a year though? it’s quite a wait..

  • YuriGotBack

    bullshit, so they took out the boost combos no shit, the fact that they are the exact chars in SFxT says everything, ported.

    • Gethoff Mahfacebuk

      You must be one of the eight or so people left that are STILL mad about R.Mika not coming back lol. Nobody played that bitch when she was in Alpha anyway, let it go.

      • Tenmakujinkyaku

        Maybe not anyone important, but I sure did

      • RomanceHD

        Hey don’t be talking shit about my Sized Double D-Cup waifu

      • jchensor

        Dude I loved R.Mika. 100% if she was a character I’d play her in USF4. ^_^

        • Gethoff Mahfacebuk

          You’d still main Cammy though. Were there even any notable R.Mika mains back in the day? I don’t go that far back with 2d games, only 3d fighters.

          • jchensor

            Not really many notable R.Mika mainers, no. I know there were a couple of good players who messed with her, but I can’t recall whom now. These days, I can really only remember myself. I even used her against Chikyuu Sodom at B5 in the A3 tournament. And if I didn’t drop my V-Ism, I would have won against him. ^_^ I also used her in Grand Finals of a UCLA tournament against Jason Cole and won 1st place, because she secretly fights Dhalsim well. ^_^

    • Yudir Chang

      Are you retarded? It’s the same engine, and they’ll use the models and animations that they MADE. These characters already existed in 3rd Strike, so obviously they’ll keep the same normals and specials they had since 3S. They’ll tweak frame data and properties of moves, which you seem to think is some pointless easy shit. These characters have to be refitted to work in an engine that doesn’t have heavy juggling , tag-combos, and will need to have FADCs worked in, as well as Ultras.

      What did you want? An entire new engine with 40 unique new characters? It’s 4 characters and a 5th unannounced. More stages, and a complete re-balance for 15 bucks. $15 will usually get you 3 DLC characters, or 2 in Blazblue.

      If you don’t like it, then don’t buy it. Stop whining like a spoiled brat. Make your own game, no one is stopping you. They don’t owe you anything, or me, or anyone. They have a business to run, and they’re gracious enough to keep the game alive and balanced, which means they’re vested in the community, in the relationship with the community. They very well could just make a new character every month and vomit it out for maximum profit.

    • CptPokerface

      They still have to give them focus attacks, Ultra’s, and supers. If they were simply “ports” they’d be the most broken characters in the game.

    • pootnannies

      visually they’re ported but i’m sure their moves have different properties. anyways, at least they won’t look like they’re rendered in mud anymore.

  • BadGief

    “Capcom’s Tomoaki Ayano ASSURES…”

    asura confirmed 5th char

  • As long as Rolento and Elena have the same moves as they did in third strike and Alpha i’ll be happy. FADC with Elena will be epic. Hopefully 🙂

    • Hawkrider

      Seriously. I miss ‘steel rain’ and ‘take no prisoners’.

  • Kalvin Khon

    Honestly I feel like the people who are complaining about the xtekken character ports aren’t really fully thinking it through.
    1. There’s a ton of people who prefer sf4 to sfxt so the “If I wanted to play these characters I’d just go play sf4” excuse is a bit silly since the two games are significantly different despite the graphics and engine similarities. Since the games are different chances are they’ll play differently as well – take a look at Chun Li, apparently bottom tier in sf4 but one of the best in sfxt.
    2. The characters are going to get new stuff added to them that are universal and unique to the sf4 series – so a whole new ultra for each and focus attacks.
    3. Lazy or not, it’d be a silly waste of resources to NOT put these characters in the update and we’d probably get complaints saying how capcom’s full of idiots instead of them being lazy.

    • d3v

      Thank you for being a voice of reason in a sea of ignorant monsters.

  • rezo

    I don’t think alot of people are saying these “new” characters are ports, but they are lat addtions. hell the fact that rolento is now in USF4 when he should have been in SSF4 with the other alpha characters, hell the Alpha and 3S people should of been in SSF4, there could be 4 “completly new” people rather then 4 late addtions and 1 new person “well maybe.”

  • CharmingRogue

    I don’t care that they’re ports. I just don’t like the new characters as a whole. They just don’t seem attractive to me, or fun to play at all.

  • Tokido

    “They’re not just ports, they’re ports with a NEW focus attack!”

    • Vilmos Magyar

      that’s like saying they were ports from 3rd strike, i mean come on.

  • TJCrimson

    [Insert complaints here]
    [Insert every other useless fact why my complaint is valid here]

  • Beb0p

    Well technically they’ll have to make a super and two ultras for each new character plus not being able to link combos so easily. It’s still going to play the same, if you couldn’t use them before you can’t use them now.

  • Smashbro29

    Now the only glaring omission in the roster is Alex.

    • superturbo

      “Now the only glaring omission in the roster is Alex”

      ^And SF Alpha’s; Charlie?! As early SF4 PC mod variants had a Charlie skin mod version of Guile, so we all know Capcom if they wanted to could add him and his ‘Shadow’ alternate into the game if they truly wanted to with minor differences in movesets from Guile etc.

      • Smashbro29

        He’s not the main character of an entire series of SF games.

        • superturbo

          He doesn’t have to be the main character of a previous SF title to be in another SF4 updated game? And Charlie is far more well known and beneficial to the SF series than somebody like; R-Mika and few others that have been asked for Street Fighter characters by current gamers.

          And as much as i like “Alex” myself. He wasn’t a strong main or balanced character for the SF3 series mind you though? He was an awkward character who was present in the 3rd series of SF games where we’re simply told he’s the main character is all!

    • That’s not necessary. Get ignored Tatsunoko if you want the loser so much.

  • tgm_Zeej

    Yes, Capcom. We realize that you’re not literally just hitting ctrl+c and ctrl+v. There will have to be some work done in the balancing, adjusting their mechanics, possibly voice-over work, and a couple new animations added.

    Really though, please don’t assure us that we don’t have to worry because you only ripped 75% of the work instead of 100%. That doesn’t make anyone feel any better, and it makes you look incredibly aware of your own faults, as well as the fact that you didn’t actually address them.

    Next time, just say “These characters are all fan favorites from the Street Fighter series, and they come from games we feel are not properly represented in Street Fighter IV. As we already had the assets from the graphically similar Street Fighter x Tekken, it would be silly not to use them. This gives us time to focus on not only balancing, but also bug-fixing, net code, tournament-friendly features and all the other problems you people constantly bitch about. Not that it matters. You ass holes are going to buy it anyway. I mean, you bought vanilla Cross Tekken. You got something to say? Step up, beeyotch.”

    Then be sure to drop the mic and give the interviewer crazy eyes. That’s how you professionalism.

    • superturbo

      While various netcoding and DLC updates might fix bugs and whatnot, its time to get real and realize this game (SF4) will never be truly balanced at all. It was always broken to begin with. it was pleasing somewhat to learn that a Gen player won Evo this year, count that as extremely rare as on the whole, most characters they add to this game won’t be tournament top-tier winners anyhow.

      And people overall are always going to be bitching about this game’s particular issues and woes, Capcom will one day have to do a final DLC that’ll satisfy their wishes not everyone else’s and simply step away just leave it at that. Because its the constant bug-fixing and re-coding of SF4 is whats really killing it right now. And making folks go off and play other FG’s

      • Justin Archer

        Nah the game’s old people aren’t just going to stick to SF4 for ever. Obviously people are going to want to try new games.

        • Old is just in your little brain.

          Obviously they can go buy and even make new games if they’re not happy. We hardcore players will stay.

          • Justin Archer

            You obviously didn’t understand the correlation between my comment and his. To deny that the game is old is just ignorant. it came out in ’08 it’s now almost 2014. You’re fucking stupid. People will play other games no matter what even pros do. You come off like such a faggot with that faggoty comment of yours.

      • Spabobin

        Name a Street Fighter game that is more balanced than this one (hint: it doesn’t exist). How many Cammys in top 8? Zero? That’s weird, how many Fei Longs? Also zero? Imagine that. I do see Gief, Rose, Vega, Oni, Gouken, and Ken in top 32. With the level of competition you see at Evo, if this game was broken you would not see anywhere near that much variety that far into the tournament.

        And you’re an idiot if you think updates are making people leave the SF series. Adding a breath of fresh air to the series sparks more interest, and often brings people back who had previously stopped playing the game. Almost nobody says “Wait, SF4 is getting an update? I’m so angry! I’ll go play Tekken now.” But I have seen hundreds of people over the last couple weeks talk about how they had moved on to Marvel/SFxT/etc. and are planning on coming back for Ultra. Even if the excitement only lasts a short time, the update still does more good than bad for Capcom and the SF series.

        • superturbo

          “Name a Street Fighter game that is more balanced than this one (hint: it doesn’t exist).”

          ^Lol says somebody like you who’s probably never played Super Street Fighter 2: Turbo. As older games are way better than Broken Fighter 4. And nope you’re the idiot if you think people haven’t moved on from this game. This is the only game that YES people do play a lot somewhat but has way too much negativity along with it and thus so many have fallen out with it over time. A minor revamp trying to get folks back in the short time isn’t good business sense unless you intend for your audiences to be there in the long time and support the game.

          “With the level of competition you see at Evo, if this game was broken you would not see anywhere near that much variety that far into the tournament.”

          ^Evo, Stunfest, World Game Cup, or SBO good as they are only have the hardcore true obsessives that are either sponsored or are regular gamers who simply game 24/7, most other people who; work, study and have other things going on in their lives (i.e. us folks) besides gaming can’t or are too busy to put in the effort to even realistically reach that high level which requires constant game playing throughout the year.

          So while you say the popular cliched obvious things to get everyone to like what your saying for whatever reasons. Only a fool fights for agreement and validation from others. I’d rather say whats right than curry favor online here and say thing i do not believe to be true at all. And i deal in reality o.k. pal, SF4 as a title isn’t the most popular FG, one of the most played perhaps yes. most liked however? Hell no, the bitching for this game is incredibly large scale, off the tournament scenes and its not the most well liked game either ask any tournie player in private and they’ll agree. they enjoy it to a certain degree but its not a fun game 24/7 mind you nor balanced. 3rd Strike, ST, Ultimate Marvel, KOF 13, Tekken Tag 2, Guilty Gear (current version!) and VF5:FS are there as alternatives people are opting to play right now.

          “Adding a breath of fresh air to the series sparks more interest, and often brings people back who had previously stopped playing the game.”

          ^yeah, and tell that mantra to the Darkstalkers crowd who wanted Darkstalkers Resurrection to be a much bigger release and have peoples playing it, than the lukewarm reception it got this year upon coming out in the Spring of 2013 chief! See you’ve got your examples but i’ve got mine which are way more accurate.

          • Guest

            dis nigga…. you’re stating your own dumbass biased opinions and acting like they’re straight out FACTS. ST is almost a 20 year old game, let it the. fuck. go. And you do realize ST was the 3rd update to SF2 right? nigga have you ever played world warrior? dat GUILE. And don’t even get me started on Dictator in CE

            tl;dr

            shut the fuck up.

          • superturbo

            Jesus Christ get outta here with your pig ignorant statements already and shut the hell up you twat and learn some damn class (using that kind of disgusting language you pathetic sack of s**t). GOOD ST is nearly 20 years old and? so bloody what Its still miles beyond SF4 and its variations and those ARE THE FACTS LITTLE BOY.

            Bitch bitch and whine whine thats all your pathetic generation is fit for isn’t it.

          • 4th.

          • superturbo

            Shut up dickhead with your ignorant comments. And so what if ST is 20 years old (19 [1994-2013] until next year actually dummy?) thats 20 year of greatness then you idiot.

            And get out of here with your stupid repugnant vulgar “nigga” statements you moronic retard!

          • Spabobin

            I’ve played plenty of 3rd strike and the occasional ST (I was too young to be really into it at the time it was most popular, though).

            I hope you’re not actually implying those games were more balanced than AE… nobody who actually has played all the games could possibly come to that conclusion. AE has very few horrible matchups (like Blanka vs. T Hawk, Sagat vs Gief, etc). While some characters are clearly better than others, no character is clearly way ahead of the pack like CKY in 3rd strike (and no character in AE is as worthless as Sean/Twelve, except *possibly* Dan).

            People complained about all the older SF games as well. The difference is everyone and their dog has the Internet now and people can be more vocal about it. There are more people who complain about SF4 than 3S because there are way WAY more people who play the game. There are also more people who like SF4 than like 3S for the same reason. You have no evidence that there is actually more negativity around SF4, you’re just clearly biased to come to that conclusion.

            “A minor revamp trying to get folks back in the short time isn’t good business sense unless you intend for your audiences to be there in the long time and support the game.”

            Tell that to COD, Halo, Tekken, and pretty much every successful game franchise. You don’t need to reinvent the wheel, improving on a successful idea is just fine.

            And yes, people who play the game a lot are obviously the ones who place the highest at tournaments… though most of them still aren’t sponsored and likely have jobs outside of gaming. What does that have to do with anything? That didn’t add to your argument at all. If the game was horribly unbalanced and broken, those top players who do nothing but play SF would only be using a small handful of characters. At lower levels of gameplay, balance is much less meaningful because nobody is bringing out the full potential of either character.

            “3rd Strike, ST, Ultimate Marvel, KOF 13, Tekken Tag 2, Guilty Gear (current version!) and VF5:FS”

            LMAO. WAAAAY more people bitch about Marvel than any other game besides maybe SFxT. KOF is only hype once or twice a year, other than that it just isn’t played or watched that much. TTT2 got laughable turnout in tournaments especially EVO. Absolutely nobody plays VF5. 3S and ST are not really played that much anymore despite being decent games, but your subjective opinion on which game is “better” means nothing.

            And your Darkstalkers example is horrible. The digital release was just a rehash of games that DS fans already have. It wasn’t a “breath of fresh air.” If someone had stopped playing DS because they got bored of it, Resurrection wouldn’t bring them back. A new or updated DS game might, however. Regardless, there are certainly more people playing DS now than there were before Resurrection came out.

          • superturbo

            “I’ve played plenty of 3rd strike and the occasional ST (I was too young to be really into it at the time it was most popular, though)”

            ^Then you’re too young then or now to be telling me anything about fighting games pal!

            “You have no evidence that there is actually more negativity around SF4, you’re just clearly biased to come to that conclusion.”

            ^And your friggin ignorant if you think dislike of SF4 doesn’t exist jack!

            “I hope you’re not actually implying those games were more balanced than AE… nobody who actually has played all the games could possibly come to that conclusion.”

            “What does that have to do with anything? That didn’t add to your argument at all. If the game was horribly unbalanced and broken, those top players who do nothing but play SF would only be using a small handful of characters.”

            ^Nah you clearly can’t argue my points because there too solid for you to argue against. exactly how many characters are picked in SF4 that win tournies because of the tier system (argue all you want to haters but it exists) Ryu, Sagat, Boxer, Rufus, Fei-Long, Yun etc. despite a few exceptions (C.Viper, Juri, Guy, Gen this year at Evo etc) the game is top-tier based and always will be. Unlike older SF games the updates here have done jacksh*t really to improve balance massively. And any tournie player worth their salt will tell you this outside gaming events in private.

            And beforehand i clearly wasn’t talking those who have jobs outside of gaming doofus? lol, thanks for getting that point wrong as well, smart you’re not.

            ^I rest my case already (*rolls eyes*), apparently ignorance is bliss to you isn’t it! Hey whatever play, your damned AE or Ultra when its out. and let those who know FG play’em. Cos i sincerely hope you didn’t just imply SF4 balance is better than ST’s. lmao you joker.

          • Even if some people leave the series in the face of updates it’s their problem and yours. I simply don’t care.

            And I don’t see any DeeJay, Cammy or even Blanka winning anything in those stupid tourneys in Super II Turbo either. It’s always Ryu, Vega and sometimes Balrog. Taaaalk about balance ugly.

            IN IV you see Gen, Hakan, Makoto making progress alongside Ryu and Akuma on the stupid tourneys so it’s better and more: baranced than the ancient game.

            And oh the community will support Ultra IV without needing yours, don’t worry. Just go back to your quiet basement and play those games people don’t bother with today.

          • superturbo

            If you don’t care, then why did you bother to return back here after 5 months making even more stupid comments on here then kid? And spare me the idiotic basement cliched trash-talking nonsense as those kind of comments are as old as your age most probably which is probably about 5 years or so right?!

            Yeah SF4 has more “baranced (lol not even a proper word?) than the ancient game” you childish twat who can’t even type up a sentence properly nor even bother to spell correctly. You didn’t even play ST enough to respect its old school mechanics so calling it ancient game shows off your sheer ignorance’s and stupidity in mocking an earlier and very successful SF game in ST, something Capcom themselves where VERY inspired by for them to even bother doing the SF4 series later on shows every how stupid and pig ignorant you truly are kid, so go away already.

            “And I don’t see any DeeJay, Cammy or even Blanka winning anything in those stupid tourneys in Super II Turbo either.”

            ^Then you haven’t really bothered to look up more ST tournaments have you child (especially those in Japan). As every character in ST is strong enough to win major tournaments if you understand them in-and-out, something the majority of characters in SF4 games can’t claim to be (tournament winning or top-tier etc!). And its Super Turbo not Super II Turbo (*sigh* why do i even bother to educate your dumb ass anyways?) you moronic git!

      • onReload

        if the updates were killing SF4, why would they keep doing it? they’ve had a few examples to pull data from by now, i’m sure their numbers reflect otherwise.

        “most characters they add to this game won’t be tournament top-tier winners anyhow.”

        remember when yun was added?

        also, which games are balanced, then? This game might not be 100%, but it sure as hell isn’t broken

      • dima

        Actually the game is already very balanced.. Ultra SF4 is just another update that’ll keep things fresh and exciting for true fans.. casual gamers have already moved on a long time ago.

        Plus you get your choice of DLC or disc, which is great. I’m going disc just to have all the content always available with me wherever I go.

        • Those fake spoon-fed gay mars can leave which is good for they are really not important to the scene or community or whatever.

    • Guest

      Thank you for being a voice of reason in a sea of ignorant monsters.

  • George Carlos Pastor

    One day, Capcom’s gonna go ahead and give everybody the middle finger and say, “Go make your own damn games, aholes.”

  • SavingPrincess

    Whatever, Ryu’s just a port from Street Fighter II. M. Bison is just a port of Vega. Street Fighter is just a port of Karate Champ.

  • the7k

    I’m more concerned about them being much worse in USF4 than they are in SFxT.

    Watching the USF4 footage, I can’t help but notice a lot of moves that knockdown in SFxT don’t in the trailers, a lot of moves that deal heavy hitstun in SFxT don’t in the trailers, etc. I noticed this immediately with Elena and Hugo, I imagine I’d have noticed with Rolento and Poison as well if I were more familiar with them.

    • onReload

      I’m really praying those were early development captures. For one thing, those chars. felt *so slow* for me in SFxT; really awkward timings…I know this isn’t 3rd Strike anymore, but come on…

  • Jason Slade

    Does he really think that just having boost-chains would make them overpowered?

    Boost Chains aren’t even really that good… especially with no partner to tag into. Hell Guy’s target combos are probably just as powerful as boost chains.

    Well except maybe Hugo. He’d probably be overpowered compared to Gief/Hawk if he had such easy combo options.

  • xelad1

    Well duh. Of course significant system changes have to be made. It doesn’t change the fact that you already have the models and most of the moveset created. We already know that these 4 characters were added because it was easier to do so then create new characters. It doesn’t bother me that much, but it still doesn’t make Ultra feel that fresh (aside from the 1 new character). We’ve already seen how the character models generally play out in x Tekken. The additions of Yun, Yang, Oni, and E. Ryu added life to Super because there was more anticipation about how they would play.

    Anyway this game has SO MANY CHARACTERS DAYUM. I don’t know enough about all fighting games but 44 playable feels like the most I’ve ever seen in any one game.

  • Yan Zhao

    They are still copy pasted. 3D models and animations are all done. They just had to tweak frame numbers and add a few new animations here and there for new moves.

    So yeah, the bulk of the work is done compared to making and designing a whole new character. I think most people who complained were doing so due to Capcom’s laziness.

    I personally dont care at all and dont mind them. Its better than nothing.