Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 – Morrigan Non-TAC Corner Infinite

Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 – Morrigan Non-TAC Corner Infinite
d3v by on December 4th, 2012 at 9:45 am

Morrigan continues to prove that she is a force to be reckoned with in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3. Chrisis recently posted a video showing a corner infinite based around the fact that her Medium Shadow Blade deals a set amount of unscaled hitstun. This is combined with a fly-cancel into Shell Kick that sets her up for another Medium Shadow Blade. You can watch Chrisis’ video below.

In addition to this, El Gato has posted a video showing an easier setup for the combo.

El Gato’s video shows it going up to 8 reps before the video fades out. Chrisis has stated in the forums that he has gotten up to 10 reps and about 800,000 damage off a decent starter. He also notes that it takes a bit of execution as the first two loops have potentially different timing depending on the initial set up. Whether or not it will ultimately prove to be a true game changer for Morrigan players depends on further testing in competitive play.

Source: Chrisis, El Gato

  • xanderglz

    *Mandatory comment*

    CALL CHRISG #SwiftRage

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=669538332 Jason Wang

    Remember when people thought that being unable to block while air dashing would make Morrigan ass?

    Yeah.

    • http://twitter.com/DevilJin01 Devil Jin

      That’s because people didn’t even try to think about flight cancelling.  Everyone just wanted to air dash around like Magneto with every other character that can air dash.  Nobody was playing defensively back then.  Everyone just wanted to play Magneto with their character.

      • d3v

        It turns out people should have been playing her like Sent instead, using the fly-cancels for extending combos.

      • http://twitter.com/KarenGossage Karen Gossage

        Just because a thing can be known, doesn’t mean it should be known.… http://www.youtube.qr.net/jOUs/watch?v=9xOf6Pe0ETk

    • ButtonsPressingThem1337Like

      I thought the character was terrible because of not being able to dash properly. The air dash has its uses but not being able to ground dash is worse.

      • d3v

        Tri-dash using shell kick canceled down air dash.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kyrie-Hartmann/100001440493411 Kyrie Hartmann

    ChrisG gonna hate this SSSSSSOOOOOOOOOO MMMMUUUUUUCCCCCCCCHHHHHHH…

  • RobertEspaillat

    Nice now Chris g has more tool and if you still think Zero is the best think again

  • ProzacStylings

    7 reps/Chrisis-saying-it-works =/= infinite. ToD on Thor or GTFO.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VAZEXMFUG7C5IGZFEZQ3EIYSX4 Chrisis X

      Cause looking at how the tools work with a set hit stun move that maintains positioning to combo into another set hit stun move back into itself is totally not a sign that it works I guess? If you understand how the tools work you understand it’s an infinite.

      • ProzacStylings

        We covered the chrisis-saying-it-works-infinitely part already.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brett-Gathings/100000335381553 Brett Gathings

      yea it works. go try it

    • SpiderDan

       ITT: if it’s difficult, it’s not actually an infinite

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VAZEXMFUG7C5IGZFEZQ3EIYSX4 Chrisis X

        D: But, but practice! Double D:!

      • ProzacStylings

        These videos do not test it at high hitstun decay.

        You jus’ mad your hawkeye got smashed by Point Sent, trolol.

        ITT, if it’s unproven, it’s not an infinite. It’s just a combo.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VAZEXMFUG7C5IGZFEZQ3EIYSX4 Chrisis X

          If you understand how HSD works in the game all you need to do is see it combo into itself without changing the positioning. Nothing in the loop is effected by hitstun decay, you could ask anyone in the Morrigan threads, or just test for yourself in the lab. I can do a full Viper combo that has enough HSD that Magneto hitting a standing C (very high hit stun) at the end will cause them to flip out within 4 frames. If you use Morrigan’s DP at the end it will have the same amount of hit stun it always does.

          • ProzacStylings

            If you had a video of that, that would be evidence. You do not. Chrisis saying it works =/= infinite.

            Many in the Morrigan forum, and elsewhere, point out that XF Shadow Blade -> Soul Drain combos only work towards the beginning of the combo, because of hitstun decay.

            Yours, and everyone else’s, claim that shadowblade is not affected by hitstun at all no matter the amount of decay in place, is an assumption. You have not mined it from any game data, and the best that can be done to test it is an extremely long combo, transitioned into a single rep, or more, of the infinite.

            A video of that, or of a ToD via this infinite, has not been made. It remains unproven. Regardless of how much you claim it works.

          • SpiderDan

            That would be an awesome point if Soul Drain were part of the infinite.

            Shell Kick obviously has unscaled hitstun (it’s a hard knockdown after a launch).  You claim that a video of “an extremely long combo transitioned into a single rep of the infinite” would be required as evidence; I am forced to wonder how the second video, which contains seven Shadow Blades with NO discernible decrease in hitstun, does not qualify.

            How many Shadow Blade Ms are required before you acknowledge that they have unscaled hitstun?  10?  15?  20?

        • http://twitter.com/Pandaboy01 Panda

          hitstun decay does not effect “UNSCALED HITSTUN”

  • http://twitter.com/CitizenCIA_SF Jeremy Sherman

    I think her one weakness was she didn’t have great combo damage. Welll…shit just got real. Expect more of this. We’re on year 2. Imagine what this game will be like at year 6, or 8?

    • RunningWild1984

       Game will long since be dead by then.

      • Mark Littles

        replaced by a mvc4, maybe, but umvc3 will last. regular mvc3 would have died via Level 3 XFactor Dark Phoenix, because that was the optimum strategy. But ultimate seems way deeper than that…

         though I wouldn’t be surprised if this takes a nerf in the future.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/UKI3HYRPHOXBC2XDFZR7DGTYFM Jalen Pace

          I don’t know, if that game was given more time, Dante would have become S tier. All the tools and combo ability, but less damage and hitstun scaling. 

        • http://twitter.com/CitizenCIA_SF Jeremy Sherman

          I don’t know about that. They’ve said they’ve lost the Marvel license, and I don’t know how eager Capcom is at making another MVC game anytime soon. 

        • SpiderDan

          UMVC3 *might* make it to Evo 2014 (presuming no sequel).  It’ll certainly be dead after that.

          This game is no MVC2.  It’s only a matter of time before someone starts abusing the clock with Spencer TACs and this game turns into timeout city.

          • matt

            LOL!!!!! you must be trolling……  unless mvc4 comes out this game isn’t gonna die anytime soon……. and honestly unless mvc4 is just the most epic shit ever umvc3 will still be around after that. Oh and It will be at evo every year till mvc4 comes out just like mvc2… ppl who think other wise are free at the game and should honestly stop hating…..so plz stfu about how it “might” make it….. not only will it make it but the prize pools will only get fatter from here…

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Terrace-Bidnessmane/1317836196 Terrace Bidnessmane

        I doubt it

  • http://www.facebook.com/thetarkus Matías Fuentes

    somebody hold me

  • Garrett Jones

    Just because a thing can be known, doesn’t mean it should be known.

    • Carlos Ferrara

       All knowables should be known.

    • dietdrkelp

      Good thing your not in the field of science.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Almeson-Hoku-James/100000479628267 Almeson Hoku James

    YOU HAVE NO HOPE

  • Cylith

    I’ve hated Morrigan since vanilla.  Finally people are understanding why now.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/Dark.Reaper.and.Galactimus.Zero Marvin Choi

    Hooray!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Almeson-Hoku-James/100000479628267 Almeson Hoku James

    Didn’t Morrigan have a infinite in TvC?

    • http://www.facebook.com/bill.akin.125 Bill Akin

      Yeah, but I don’t think anyone ever used it in a match because, apparently similarly to this one, it was balls hard.

      • http://twitter.com/GrapeATL Grape 포도 약탈품

        her tvc infinite was really easy

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Yan-Zhao/10516382 Yan Zhao

    Hahaha so now ChrisG and touch of death you in the corner when he lands a hit, while building mad meter for astral vision.

    GG UMvC3 metagame.

    • d3v

      That’s the thing though, it’s only in the corner. Also 10 reps for 800k damage with timing changes in the first few reps means that it takes a bit of execution to get it out. Will it be a useful tool for her? Yes, at times. Will it be a total game changer? I figure not as much as you may think.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AFJDBNFMXC3CCRYNSN3V3ZTWZE James

    Wow ….snicker snicker….the damage.  Even if it is legit after hours in training mode you might get 12 reps consistantly in an actuall match in the unlikely corner situation.  All that just to eat foot dive / dive kick / pipe / jump S in the face into full combo, using the meter you so kindly help him build by tickling your opponent then die (when you drop the combo not if).

    TLDR Meh

  • Maxim Cryseria

    wow i have morrigan on my team, diffinitely utilizing this! :D

  • http://www.twitter.com/tyler2k1/ tyler2k

    Remember when people thought that TACs would be the only way infinites would exist in this game?
    Yeah.

  • d3v

    I believe it’s a good time as any to reshare this piece where Seth talks about infinites:

    http://shoryuken.com/2012/04/18/seth-killian-talks-to-kotaku-in-defense-of-infinite-combos/

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Zaimont/732839308 Michael Zaimont

      You realize that was mostly damage control rather than Real Talk, right?

      • d3v

        Now that you mention it, yes. But there are still points in that article that are IMO worth pondering about.

  • http://twitter.com/pandamanana ⓣⓞⓜ 紳 Göran

    Does anyone else hear her say “James Chen” in her first infinite? 

  • OrehRatiug

    Man super skrull must be S tier too seeing as how he has a corner infinite. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/rahim.falconer Rahim Falconer

    Who cares about this really one FootDive & she’s dead #DoomTopTier

  • NyuBomber

    …Buff Tron.

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  • dietdrkelp

    Zero has to benefit from this somehow, he always does.

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