SSFIV:AE 2012 – Dan Unblockable Setups by P.M.

by MyLifeIsAnRPG on November 27th, 2012 at 8:46 am

P.M. recently posted a few new Super Street Fighter IV videos detailing unblockable setups with everyone’s favorite shoto: Dan! The setups are demonstrated on Rufus and Seth and counters to the setups are shown as well.

Source: P.M.

“A Study in Scarlet,” Exploring Vega Setups in Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition ver. 2012
Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition ver. 2012 – Cammy and Rufus Unblockables by PM
SSFIV:AE 2012 – El Fuerte, T. Hawk, and Guy Unblockable Setups by Ryu Apprentice
SSFIV:AE 2012 – High-Level Japanese Gameplay Roundup
Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition ver. 2012 – Unblockable Ultra Setups by Ryu Apprentice

tiki.92

I really think that the better one gets at IV, the more retarded the game becomes…
http://www.facebook.com/DashingKC K.c. Cannady

Welp, guess I’m heading back to my Saikyo Dojo
ouroborus

why dont capcom patch this shit out already?

after all, they already patched the meaty fireball/ultra unblockables.

sf4 is looking more and more retarded with these stupid unblockables and option selects
- daveosaur
  
  This isn’t a glitch, its just abusing how the engine works, so there’s nothing really to patch out.
  
  Also option selects are in every fighting game. Deal with it.
  - ouroborus
    
    by your definition, roll cancelling in cvs2 is not a glitch either since its just abusing how the engine works.
    
    and no shit sherlock, option selects are in every game. its just sf4 takes it to a whole new level.
  - Bill Cosby
    
    I know people have already mentioned this, but you’re retarded.
  - http://www.facebook.com/10stars Robert Brejcak
    
    If the engine fails to allow a normal thing to happen, it’s a glitch, jackass. Abusing an engine would be a kara demon, putting someone in block animation without actual stun so they cant jump. Making a normal move unblockable, is a glitch.
  - http://twitter.com/EshiMusic Chris |Eshi| Manning
    
    Option selects are in every game, yeah, but there are SHIT TONS of them in SFIV. Many times more than any game I’ve ever seen.
Garrett Jones

lol at scrubs complaining about shit they didn’t even watch. Did you not see some of the good escape options covered for these unblockable setups as well?
- Bill Cosby
  
  Thats pretty irrelevant. The fact is that simply jumping at someone should in no way create an unblockable. Its unintentional and its bad programming. 99% of people who play this game wouldn’t ~know~ that they’re unable to block things like this.
  - Garrett Jones
    
    How the fuck is *escaping* an *un-block-a-ble* irrelevant?! There’s nothing more relevant to this discussion than that! You do realize this is SRK, right? Not Gamefaqs or fucking Kotaku. People are here typically to improve their game, not bitch pointlessly.
    - http://profile.yahoo.com/24SGNW2FOLY7HAL2YEEAKGKZ6M Lampshade
      
      hahah you think people are here to improve their game and not bitch. What a lol that was.
    - http://profile.yahoo.com/24SGNW2FOLY7HAL2YEEAKGKZ6M Lampshade
      
      Also, that layer being added…it’s unbeatable so the whole things stops there…lol
    - Bill Cosby
      
      I understand that you’re stupid and can’t read, but I already answered your question.
      
      Its irrelevant because it shouldn’t be unblockable in the first place.
      
      In Marvel when someone hits you with an assist 1 frame before crossing you up, and thats unblockable, I can see how thats unblockable.
      
      When someone simply JUMPS AT ME and it MAGICALLY through faulty programming becomes an unblockable, thats bad for the game. If it completely looks like I should be able to block something, and for whatever reason I CANT, thats shitty programming. Go back to school.
      - Garrett Jones
        
        IT’S NOT UNBEATABLE. HE SHOWS YOU HOW TO BEAT IT IN THE VIDEO. Why should they fix something that is hard to do and has really easy ways to avoid? Crawl back inside your mother’s twat and finish gestating.
http://www.facebook.com/harold.demmings Harold Demmings

i’m not gonna lie this is nothing new i can do most of this with any character or better with uri over heads are redundantly easy to deal with once u get over 3k bp its why its so easy to beat out chun li’s tat use her over head special on all of ur wake ups u just get used to being able to block forward the moment someones in the air to far to hit the front of ur character and u can always dash forward if u wanna get ballsy with it
- Bill Cosby
  
  I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, but I assure you its in no way relevant to this.
  - Rahavic
    
    For real I’m mindfucked. Got a headache tryin to read that thing. Something about being better at blocking cuz he’s at 3k BP and a Chun ultra or something? idk
- http://www.facebook.com/10stars Robert Brejcak
  
  What the fuck are you babbling about moron?
http://twitter.com/meowklaski Ryan

To the people crying about unblockables and OSes and who want another patch:

You should form your own FGC where there’s a gentlemen’s agreement such that everyone only picks Ryu. No fireballs or other special moves are allowed, and you must respectfully let your opponent get up off of knockdown.

This should be a sterile enough game so that none of you get your feelings hurt by meanies who exploit the game QQ
- Bill Cosby
  
  We aren’t badmouthing people who USE unblockables, I think you’re confused. We’re upset that theyre IN THE GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE. There’s nothing wrong with complaining about glitches/bad programming in a game.
  - http://twitter.com/meowklaski Ryan
    
    ST and MVC2 are legendary games, in part, because of their bad programming/glitches and how players learned to incorporate as well as overcome them.
    - Louis Lam
      
      MVC2′s a lucky accident, remember CvS2 rolling?
    - KubikiriTurkojin
      
      always with the same bs, mvc2 is a shitty game (as is the whole mvc series). why the fuck would you even consider calling it legendady when the game was only popular in the US? it sold shit everywhere else and nobody but fucking america played the game.
    - http://www.facebook.com/10stars Robert Brejcak
      
      mvc2 is legendary because the glitches and abuse tactics take a special set of skill, and normally display something fancy. Backing up and making something unblockable in an already slow, dull game, is not what will make a game legendary.
      - http://twitter.com/meowklaski Ryan
        
        many unblockables require one frame timing, and can typically be avoided (focus dash) if done predictably. I don’t know why I’m wasting my time here when you guys demonstrate that you have no understanding of this game.
      - Bill Cosby
        
        The fact that there are certain escapes is not the issue. Please read up.
ouroborus

for all you retards defending the unblockables:

if i want a game with unblockables, i’ll play marvel.

lets just ignore the fact that more and more unblockables are found everyday. 98% of the techs found and posted on the front page are either option selects or unblockables.
- Bill Cosby
  
  Its not so much that theres unblockables, its that the unblockables in no way look unblockable, and are the result of poor programming.
  - Gordon Reynolds
    
    Remember back when the mere act of a combo was “a result of poor programming”?
    - Bill Cosby
      
      Yea, because thats super relevant to this conversation.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1149164950 facebook-1149164950

These all require manual timing, it’s really risky.
ReoAyanami

You know, Dan doesn’t use shotokan karate.

His saikyo-style is a parody of ryo sakasaki’s fighting style.

These days, it seems that anyone with a fireball and an uppercut is automatically a shoto.
- Johnson Nguyen
  
  No one in Street Fighter history uses Shotokan Karate though. Now, I may need correction, but as I understand it, Ryu and Ken’s style of martial arts was erroneously labelled as Shotokan Karate in one of the early games’ manuals but was later corrected to become Ansatsuken as the years passed. However, Shotokan Karate already stuck by then and thus every Hadouken thrower since has become known as a ‘Shoto’.
  
  However, Makoto *might* use Shotokan Karate.
PJ

So a move that’s blockable (with a 1frame window, but STILL blockable) but is just called an “unblockable” by name raises disgust and complaints from the SF community…

But completely ambiguous crossups which are almost the same exact thing minus the 1frame aspect are fine and dandy and widely accepted.

Stay free FGC.
- ouroborus
  
  by your definition, hitting low and high at the same time in mvc3 is not an unblockable.
  - PJ
    
    I fail to see how my definition resembles that scenario in any way. And regardless, it’s not an unblockable anyways as you can simply up/back and chickenblock it. Learn 2 troll cuz that was a seriously fail attempt.
    - Bill Cosby
      
      The fact that you think stuff like Dante’s ublockable setup can be beat by chicken blocking and then try to rub that in someone’s face, is HILARIOUS. Please keep making yourself look awful.
    - ouroborus
      
      except you can’t chicken block trish’s round harvest setup. which is done with meaty round harvest tag in sentinel, call wesker, fly, frying pan.
      
      like the sf4 unblockables, its technically blockable at the right frame since the game doesnt register high and low at the same time.
      
      i don’t think i need to say this but its physically impossible for humans to block 1 frame attacks consistently.
      
      fyi, ambiguous crossups are what it sounds like, ambiguous. it looks ambiguous but you can actually block it.
      
      last but not least, the only thing thats fail is your understanding of fighting game mechanics.
      - PJ
        
        I understand game mechanics quite well actually. There’s escapes for unblockables, it’s just a matter of do you do the escape for it, or sit there and block if it’s not an unblockable setup. Hence… it’s a 50-50 guess. Guess what? Ambigous crossups are a 50-50 guess. it’s just a matter of guessing right or left on the block as an unblockable is a 50-50 guess of block or use escape technique. Therefore… pretty much the same thing. Unless of course you want to be technical jackasses about it who need to skew the conversation to feed your little superiority complexes which you seem to have judging by the other comments you both make on this site. Keep whining about them little boys. More typical examples of “boo-hoo patch my game cuz I don’t like this in it” retards instead of learning how to cope with them and just play the game like we did in the arcade days… I weep for this generation of fighting game players.
        Again… stay free boys and have fun continuing this debate upon deaf ears.
      - ouroborus
        
        i brought up umvc3 because its the same concept. you have one frame to chose to block left or right in sf4, you have one frame to block high or low in umvc3. according to you its blockable, which is laughable.
        
        i’ll say this again, you can block ambiguous crossups. aside from sloppy programming, there should be no reason why blocking a jump in does not work properly. unblockables are actually fairly common in capcom games but sf4 takes that to another level.
        
        as for asking for a patch, do remember that this is sf4 we’re talking about. no other game in capcom history received that many revisions and patches. they already took out the fireball/ultra unblockables from vanilla and day 1 ssf4. why half ass it and take out some unblockables but leave the rest?
- Bill Cosby
  
  Oh, so an ambiguous crossup is ‘almost the same thing’, except for the whole part that defines what an unblockable is. K.
xactionbasturdx

You guys do realize this is dan right…never seen people get butthurt over a low tier character that no one uses…as if this tech is whats going to start a dan army…quit bitchin play game and stop crying patch everytime some new tech is discovered…its there for a reason
- ouroborus
  
  you do realize that its not just dan that has unblockables right? if only like 1 or 2 characters that have them, it wouldnt be a big issue. but right now, the majority of the cast has one.
  
  as for this being new tech, that is the problem. 98% of the “new” tech thats out are unblockables and/or option selects.
- Bill Cosby
  
  “Its there for a reason”?
  
  In this case, the “Reason” being that the design team fucked up royally and for whatever reason, jumping at someone as they’re getting up creates an unblockable. OK.
PJ

I believe Bill and Ouroborus have attained “dick status: 2″ about this point.

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