Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike Online Edition Patch Discussed at UFGT8 Panel

by iantothemax on May 26th, 2012 at 5:42 pm

One of the many attractions at this year’s Ultimate Fighting Game Tournament was a special Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike Online Edition panel led by Iron Galaxy Studios CEO Dave Lang. While initial details mentioned the panel would focus on the company’s revival of the classic game and implementation of GGPO, another special topic was mentioned a couple of times on stream that could see the game’s legacy continue on even further into the future.

Talk is that the panel also included a special announcement about an upcoming patch for the game, as well as a discussion segment where the community was asked what they would like to see included in the update. While details are still scarce on what this update will actually include, their focus on taking suggestions from players may hint at some of the possible changes coming to the online-enabled port. Of course, all of this is still speculation at this point, so we’ll keep you updated as more information becomes available.

But for now, this raises a chance for some good discussion. What would you like to see updated if they do decide to tweak 3rd Strike’s balance? What changes should be implemented outside of balancing? Let us know in the comments section below.

UPDATE: Dave Lang of Iron Galaxy Studios posted a message to clarify the intentions behind the upcoming patch.

This is Dave from Iron Galaxy, under no circumstances are we rebalancing 3S, we went over this at the panel but apparently there was a miscommunication somehow. When the stream of the panel comes out check it out, see what we’re planning on fixing, and post what you think.

Source: Level|Up Live

http://www.facebook.com/mike.goosens Mike Goosens

I don’t think it needs any more balancing. Add ggpo though
- L Light
  
  It already has GGPO.
  - Bill Cosby
    
    What? But thats impossible! Everyone on SRK is always going on about how GODLIKE GGPO is, but 3SO plays like COMPLETE ASS
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Tyler-Parry/100003150253490 Steven Tyler Parry
      
      It was a poor implementation though. They should spend some time fixing it. Skullgirls uses it really well.
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Tyler-Parry/100003150253490 Steven Tyler Parry
      
      It was a poor implementation though. They should spend some time fixing it. Skullgirls uses it really well.
      - Bill Cosby
        
        Skullgirls is no better.
      - MeyerKaty
        
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    - http://profile.yahoo.com/M4W3JYRDPLPJAUAIS76LEIAO64 Rock
      
      GGPO is -NOT- a replacement for your bad internet connection.
  - Bill Cosby
    
    What? But thats impossible! Everyone on SRK is always going on about how GODLIKE GGPO is, but 3SO plays like COMPLETE ASS
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Bobby-Maldonado/100000162635718 Edward Bobby Maldonado
  
  ”any MORE balancing”? The game’s never been balanced ONCE. But hey if you enjoy SF3: Yun Edition, be my guest.
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Tyler-Parry/100003150253490 Steven Tyler Parry
    
    Just happened to see this before I left…. Complete exaggeration.
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Tyler-Parry/100003150253490 Steven Tyler Parry
    
    Just happened to see this before I left…. Complete exaggeration.
  - http://www.facebook.com/stephanis.koukis Stephanis Koukis
    
    Have you even been on 3so? I see more Hugo than anything else, followed by Dudley and Ryu. I’ve played maybe 3 yangs and only 1 was good. 2 chuns and 1 was good. And I’ve played hundreds of matches, sometimes upwards of 20-30 a day.
- http://twitter.com/iTzKayrohJones Brandyn Harris
  
  trynna be old school. failed though
- http://twitter.com/iTzKayrohJones Brandyn Harris
  
  trynna be old school. failed though
http://twitter.com/BigguDani Danny Alvarado

Oh, now they care? Damn, only took them 9 months to give a fuck.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Joshua-Rivera/100000028398579 Joshua Rivera
  
  Yeah, by now they should have had the ultimate version out.
  - http://twitter.com/BigguDani Danny Alvarado
    
    By god, you’re stupid.
  - adidaas
    
    I think I found a joke I hate more than Arrow to the Knee….
http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Murray/611100197 Mike Murray

I wanted a rebalance from the beginning. I think the results would be interesting to say the least!
- http://twitter.com/xobehtef mike f
  
  no, it would have just been another hd remix. they are literally damned if they do and damned if they dont. 3s is always gonna be half dead now.
- http://www.facebook.com/stephanis.koukis Stephanis Koukis
  
  It doesnt need fucking rebalanced just pick a character that isnt stupid ass Sean or Twelve and learn to win with your characters strengths. Fuck!
http://www.facebook.com/LanceSalamanca Lance Joseph Levito Salamanca

why does everybody want to change 3rd strike?
- Cody Templeton
  
  because Chun Li is made of bullshit and makes the game boring as hell. game only needs small tweaks to 4-5 chars but mostly should be left alone
  - Arobadope
    
    Can’t beat her, get better. Plenty of players have used lower tier characters and beaten Chun-li. Is it hard? Of course, but come on.
    - http://twitter.com/Cloak007 Cloaker
      
      Or just pick her.
    - Joseph King
      
      Of course she can be beaten… but only with 2 characters…
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Salman-Hannan/504153545 Salman Hannan
      
      Thats the stupidest thing I’ve heard. It shouldn’t make sense that you have to work three times as hard as your opponent to beat them. You COULD get better, but that doesn’t make the game fair and balanced. Chun Li is a ridiculously stupid character, and everyone picks her because of it. That kind of shit is what ruined third strike for me.
      - http://www.facebook.com/stephanis.koukis Stephanis Koukis
        
        Shut the fuck up. It’s a game. You are supposed to find the best way for YOU to win. If you’re picking a character because of loyalty or some dumb reason, it’s your own fault and you miss the point of playing a game, not only to have fun, but to win.
        
        If its not your kind of game then stop playing.
      - Wowseriouslydudes
        
        I think you completely missed the point of what games were created for.
    - http://www.facebook.com/LanceSalamanca Lance Joseph Levito Salamanca
      
      i manage to beat her while using hugo. teirs mean nothing.
  - http://twitter.com/BigguDani Danny Alvarado
    
    10+ years of info to get better in 3rd strike. I suggest you get to it.
  - eunsun
    
    Chun-Li, Ken, Yun, Makoto, Sean – nerf
    Twelve, Hugo, Q – buff
    
    anything else?
    - http://www.facebook.com/mr.RANDOM804 Greg Pinkney
      
      how bout we nerf…. wait for it, NOTHING!!!!! the ggpo server is probably the only thing wrong with it, but can you give us a HD option though? that’ll be nice
    - Morpheus77
      
      Nerf Sean? you have no idea what you are talking about do you?
      - eunsun
        
        It was a joke, sorry that it wasn’t executed well. I thought it would be obvious.
      - smoothnsimplified
        
        Thank god you were joking. Good god.
      - eunsun
        
        It was a joke, sorry that it wasn’t executed well. I thought it would be obvious.
    - smoothnsimplified
      
      You obviously aren’t good at the game or have never played it.
  - http://twitter.com/Str8_Chance Chance
    
    you suck at 3s kid
- http://www.facebook.com/Trance.S.Core Technika Core
  
  cuz this is the internet. Everyone whines and wants a patch. Remember when they nerfed Sent’s health, then people kept crying that his HP was too low? Watch when CvS2 ever gets re-released.
  
  “nerf A groove sakura, she’s so unfair”
  - http://twitter.com/wizard_hat Ian Souten
    
    Damn dude, just wait until someone uses BAS’ team. Then folks will just get fucked.
  - Moribund Cadaver
    
    People have said 3s was unbalanced for ten years. And here’s the punchline: the game WAS going to receive an update to adjust the balance further. But the final revision of the arcade unit never happened due to Capcom abandoning the arcade market.
    
    So what does this do to derisive comments at people with legitimate criticisms of the game? Capcom recognized the game was too lopsided. The update merely never came.
    
    Besides, the whining about patching games is nonsensical. You may as well say every iterative fighting game update released as a separate title was the result of “whining”. What is the actual difference between a game having its balance updated in the next revision, or having the balance updated via a patch?
    
    There is none.
    
    One is simply a separate retail (or arcade cab) release.
    
    The other is performing the update without having to replace the entire game wholesale.
    
    In the world of competitive gaming, ONLY fighting games lagged behind due to being a niche that was stuck on arcade cabs and/or non-updatable console games. Most other competitive games existed in the PC realm, where games can easily be updated. Players got used to the concept of a game being refined after a lot of play revealed possible issues. While it’s true that there’s plenty of bitching and griping over any balance update, that arguing is focused more on what specific balance tweaks were made… not over whether games should ever be updated, at all.
    
    Fighting game players have a misguided “tough man” attitude towards updating games that they’ve developed as a salve against being forced to play frequently broken games with no fix for the issues. Let’s face it; fighting games are complex to design, and the genre doesn’t have a great record for balance. Most fighting games are unbalanced. Many, including many popular ones, aren’t just unbalanced, but deeply flawed or broken. Only a handful of games have ever been highly balanced in the opinions of most players. Like Super Turbo, VF5:FS, or certain revisions of Guilty Gear.
    
    If people in the FGC who gripe about rebalancing games actually practiced what they preached, then nobody would be playing anything other than OG SF2WW. After all, the FIVE REVISIONS of SF2 it took to achieve Super Turbo were balance revisions made to service the demands of competitive players who wanted the best SF2 possible. People sure whined a lot to result in five revisions, didn’t they? Those weak sauce scrubs.
    
    Oh, and fun fact: the famous Sentinel ‘nerf’ in MVC3? The patch with that hit just after the game came out. Console patches can’t be designed and approved that fast. Meaning it was already in the pipeline before the game was released; a change that was decided on after the retail disc went gold.
    
    In other words, a change the design team made themselves, rather than in response to supposed whining of scrub players. And guess what? The change made sense. Sentinel had too much health and it allowed players to play a scrubby Sent, making mistakes and getting caught but not dying for it. A basic sensible change that would have already been in the game at launch had the team decided on it a couple of weeks before they were forced to send a gold version off.
    
    Instead, that has become an epic legend of “scrubs ruining games by whining for patches.” LOL FGC.
    - HeyyZeus
      
      This will go ignored for it’s brutal accuracy, factual basis and logical reasoning.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Zak-MadHatter-Coulter/100000594246140 Zak MadHatter Coulter
        
        And for the fact that people don’t want to read a long comment >_>.
    - http://fuzzbuzzwar.tumblr.com/ Zeidust
      
      Thank you for this.
    - http://www.facebook.com/CasshernsNiceBoat Daniel Lucas Park
      
      This should be a featured Editorial on SRK. And then idiots would complain about how this post doesn’t match up to their aspie, autistic views, and how their word is law because the world revolves around aspie autists.
      - eunsun
        
        Good job following a great argument with obnoxious petty bickering. ZOMG EVERYONE IS SO AUTISTIC, STOP BEING AUTISTIC GUYZ. Why can’t everyone be like me and mysteriously have their back turned with a guitar looking down at the ground. I am soooo deep, I wish everyone else could be.
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Jolly-Green/100002520138114 Jolly Green
      
      Respect.
    - Amer1ka
      
      Great post. Sadly few will read it because it isn’t an “entertaining troll” and contains too many words for the average reader to dedicate time to finishing. But, a few of us did.
      - eunsun
        
        29 likes says otherwise
    - http://twitter.com/NPMafiaSanta NPMafia Santa
      
      This is the realest 3rd strike related post ever made on SRK
    - http://twitter.com/NPMafiaSanta NPMafia Santa
      
      This is the realest 3rd strike related post ever made on SRK
    - http://twitter.com/NPMafiaSanta NPMafia Santa
      
      This is the realest 3rd strike related post ever made on SRK
- fiks
  
  because the game has awful balance, the way parries are make lots of shit dumb with regards to zoning and neutral and mixup, but third strike cultists who think the game is perfect for no reason are a huge barrier to any change
  - http://twitter.com/onReload onReload
    
    yeah, and there sure aren’t hundreds of people still playing this game on a tourney level or anything. people can’t accept a game losing popularity without anything being wrong with it.
    - USS_Hunk
      
      There aren’t. The only country that still plays 3S is Japan. No other country plays it. Even the Veteran 3S player say the game is broken and Chun has advantage in every single match up except 1 Ken, which is 5/5. So explain to me WHY this game didn’t need an update after the first month?
      
      Anyone who defends 3rd Strike never played it in tournament. All these frauds out there on the internet never actually played it. Do you have any idea how annoying it is to know you can not pick 85% of the cast and stand a legit chance in tournament against Chun?
      
      Have you ever seen the EVO results from 3S?
      Yun, Yun, Chun, Chun, Yun, Chun. Chun. Yun/Chun.
      
      Not even Marvel 2 had so few winning combinations. Marvel 2 had Matrix win, MSP win, DUC win, and Scrub win. That’s 4x the variety of 3rd Strike and THAT game is suppose to be broken.
      
      Stop defending the game. It’s the worst balanced competitive fighter of all time.People played it cause Capcom didn’t release another Street Fighter for 10 years and that’s all they had. It’s the ONLY reason people kept playing it.
    - USS_Hunk
      
      There aren’t. The only country that still plays 3S is Japan. No other country plays it. Even the Veteran 3S player say the game is broken and Chun has advantage in every single match up except 1 Ken, which is 5/5. So explain to me WHY this game didn’t need an update after the first month?
      
      Anyone who defends 3rd Strike never played it in tournament. All these frauds out there on the internet never actually played it. Do you have any idea how annoying it is to know you can not pick 85% of the cast and stand a legit chance in tournament against Chun?
      
      Have you ever seen the EVO results from 3S?
      Yun, Yun, Chun, Chun, Yun, Chun. Chun. Yun/Chun.
      
      Not even Marvel 2 had so few winning combinations. Marvel 2 had Matrix win, MSP win, DUC win, and Scrub win. That’s 4x the variety of 3rd Strike and THAT game is suppose to be broken.
      
      Stop defending the game. It’s the worst balanced competitive fighter of all time.People played it cause Capcom didn’t release another Street Fighter for 10 years and that’s all they had. It’s the ONLY reason people kept playing it.
      - http://www.facebook.com/ciaran.plunkett Ciaran Plunkett
        
        “Can’t stand a chance”?
        
        No, more like “have to work for your wins against Chun”.
        Oh look, I think I see why you’re failing.
      - USS_Hunk
        
        You’re a scrub. If the Chun is of equal skill and match up knowledge they will always win in tournament.
        
        Have you ever seem Chun’s match up charts?
        Six 8-2s in her favor, Four 7-3s in her Favor, Three 6.5-4.5, Four 6-4, and of course 1 5-5 match up.
        
        I just wanted to make it clear too that anything 6.5 or above is considered an unwinnable match up in tournament. Meaning if the players are of equal skill and match up knowledge the Chun player will always win.
        
        So explain to me how that doesn’t need a rebalance? Did I mention how piss easy Chun is to use too?
      - http://twitter.com/ThePhantomnaut Carlo Dela Cruz (直人)
        
        Anyone who shits on 3rd Strikes never played it in tournament.
        
        No matter what, people will complain while I and many others who love the game will just keep on playing and not give enough shits about “EVO results” or whatever.
      - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=745579039 Justt Bruce
        
        for real seeing that shit is boring, I wanna see different characters on the top 8. I hope they buff sean somehow.
      - pootnannies
        
        do you even know what you’re talking about? all the shit you typed had nothing to do with your tournament knowledge but from charts and shit from the internet and evo.
        i can’t speak for everyone but the reasons i played 3s had nothing to do with it being the last sf made all those years ago. it was FUN. imagine that. great visuals and fun were the major reasons i played it. is it ridiculously unbalanced? yes and get over it because even if the patch fixed the balance this game will not suddenly sprout up at every tournament. and even if it was balanced people would start to bitch about parries, etc…
        if you have so much beef with it than let it go. this isn’t sfxt where they’re still patching it up to try to make everybody happy. if anything they should make a fourth edition of sf3 and just leave 3s as is. what that game needs is proper online capabilities and more tweaks to actually make it arcade perfect.
      - pootnannies
        
        do you even know what you’re talking about? all the shit you typed had nothing to do with your tournament knowledge but from charts and shit from the internet and evo.
        i can’t speak for everyone but the reasons i played 3s had nothing to do with it being the last sf made all those years ago. it was FUN. imagine that. great visuals and fun were the major reasons i played it. is it ridiculously unbalanced? yes and get over it because even if the patch fixed the balance this game will not suddenly sprout up at every tournament. and even if it was balanced people would start to bitch about parries, etc…
        if you have so much beef with it than let it go. this isn’t sfxt where they’re still patching it up to try to make everybody happy. if anything they should make a fourth edition of sf3 and just leave 3s as is. what that game needs is proper online capabilities and more tweaks to actually make it arcade perfect.
      - d3v
        
        Chun has a 3:7 disadvantage against Yun.
      - hotbreakfest
        
        That’s false. They’ve discovered in recent years that Chun has a slight advantage over Yun.
      - http://twitter.com/GlobalTaco Quentin
        
        You know nothing of this game -__-… Just because you pick Chun you’re not rewarded victories. Good players are good players in this game. They don’t lose to silly things. Veteran 3rd Strike players pretty much play most of the cast -__-… We just realize that Ken Yun Chun Ken Mak Dud Yan Akuma are amazing characters with great options. This doesn’t nullify the rest of the cast by any means whatsoever.
        I play 3S in tournies regularly and I must say, your analysis is biased, bullshit, and completely ignorant.
http://www.facebook.com/mike.goosens Mike Goosens

This just in: I heard it has ggpo. SO DON’T DO ANYTHING TO IT.
- smoothnsimplified
  
  lol fgc
http://www.facebook.com/YamaRoo Yama Roo

Take out some of Chun-li’s option selects. Either by changing the move input priority, or just take out the ability to stack. Not all of it, don’t nerf her, and don’t make her garbage tier, or even take her out of the top. It just feels like sometimes you have no choice but to take a hit against her to avoid a trap later, and it happens against her more times than any other character. It might be that I need more experience, but that’s my current opinion.
http://twitter.com/kona_distorted kona

I’d like the ability to play as previous versions of the characters. (ie. 2nd Impact Ibuki)
- http://www.facebook.com/Rizhall Mohammed Ahmed
  
  This is doing it right
- http://twitter.com/itskori Kori F
  
  lol 2i Dudley
- http://www.facebook.com/Trance.S.Core Technika Core
  
  2i Sean.
  - http://twitter.com/iTzKayrohJones Brandyn Harris
    
    This man is smart.
- melterx12
  
  id like them to add the 2i stages
http://twitter.com/Rockaizen B. Rock Walker

I for one wouldn’t welcome a balance patch, it’s been too long, simply accept Third Strike for what it is now. If they you don’t like Third Strike and want to change it, then make a Fifth Strike. Far as what I would like added outside of balance though, having the stages from New Generation and Second Impact would be great. And while we’re at it, bring in that boss announcer too. Hearing, “KNOCKOUT” when you KO’d someone was awesome.
- Joseph King
  
  Just skip 4th and go to 5th huh?
  - Fenaris
    
    You seem to have lived under a rock the last 5 years. There is a 4th Street Fighter game since you came out of your cave.
    - http://twitter.com/Hellzofwarz kelvin ruiz
      
      Street fighter 3 3RD strike. The next iteration would be a fourth strike or w/e they call it. Street fighter 4 does not belong there.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Elias/1060021109 Stephen Elias
        
        Yeah, I thought 4 was supposed to take place before the 3rd Strike storyline or something like that?
      - smoothnsimplified
        
        “Street Fighter III: Fourth blow” or some shit like that.
    - Joseph King
      
      Street Fighter 4 IS NOT Street Fighter 3: 4th Strike you goddamned idiot!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Patrick-Kelly/1643079315 Patrick Kelly

Pleaaaase don’t rebalance.
http://www.facebook.com/mike.goosens Mike Goosens

add more characters. how about that? 12 new characters. Is that so unheard of? wanna bring it back? bring it back that way
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TIC7WNRSMFBSCLF6OR6JQJAAZA sb
  
  thats how u do it make a SF3 Third Strike RESURRECTION with new odd like characters some made it in SF4 thats cool but i rather have a new SF3 with just the SF3 characters plus new characters with the UMVC3 look we seen enuff of SF4 type models
  - cs_snofly
    
    Wow.. this is incredibly dumb. Rather impressive.
    - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TIC7WNRSMFBSCLF6OR6JQJAAZA sb
      
      your dumb trolling is rather impressive
  - smoothnsimplified
    
    Thanks for demonstrating your dumb creative stuff.
    - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TIC7WNRSMFBSCLF6OR6JQJAAZA sb
      
      Thanks for demonstrating how much of an ass you can be
      - smoothnsimplified
        
        Thanks. LOL
- http://twitter.com/kaiser_chip hismit
  
  Scrub detected!
http://twitter.com/Zonnex Zonnex

If it’s online tweak, cool. If it’s balance: DON’T TOUCH THAT! DON’T YOU EVER TOUCH THAT!!!!!
NO NERF! NO BUFF! NONE OF THAT GARBAGE! IT’S PERFECT AS IT WAS AND IT IS PERFECT AS IT IS!
Thank you.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Salman-Hannan/504153545 Salman Hannan
  
  It’s not close to perfect, it’s ridiculously unbalanced and makes the game boring as shit to play. Seeing as only three characters are viable at high level.
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BYN5NQ6JQ6NHAUUDMJNRJEU654 ChrisL
    
    absolutely, but you know how people set in their comfort zone feel about that. 13 years is long enough to understand that 3s is serious overrated and unbalanced.
    
    no change = no new blood
    
    what a snooze-fest this game is.
BritMckay

Here’s a patch idea: MAKE THE FUCKING GAME WORK PROPERLY.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Justin-Archer/747006074 Justin Archer
  
  i just wanna learn how to play 3S.
  - smoothnsimplified
    
    lmao
http://www.facebook.com/mike.goosens Mike Goosens

this is officially my new song for whenever capcom trolls. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccenFp_3kq8&ob=av3e Hall & Oates “I Can’t Go For That”
http://www.facebook.com/peraltasoto Gustavo Peralta Soto

i would like more stages.
http://twitter.com/itskori Kori F

either take chun li completely out of the game or don’t touch it at all and let us continue living with her existence. thanks.
- http://twitter.com/itskori Kori F
  
  oh and no touching urien. at all.
http://twitter.com/brandonall brandonall

Don’t fix the balance issues please! I thouroughly enjoy playing a mixture of Kens, Chuns and makotos every single time I log on!
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BYN5NQ6JQ6NHAUUDMJNRJEU654 ChrisL
  
  i know how DARE you take away our fun with these THREE characters? nobody cares about the rest of the cast.
  - http://twitter.com/GlobalTaco Quentin
    
    People are retarded -__-… The entire cast is fun to play… ‘Cept Chun and Oro… And Sean. Other than those characters, the entire cast is absolutely fantastic. I play Makoto and she has the most interesting archetype to me. I also enjoy Remy who’s pretty much on the opposite spectrum. I dabble in Urien and enjoy the Twins because of pressure and punishment ability.
- http://www.facebook.com/stephanis.koukis Stephanis Koukis
  
  I don’t know what 3sOE you are playing but I’ve been playing it on 360 and PS3 and I run into more Hugos than anything else. Followed by random characters. I can count on 1 hand the number of chuns, yuns, and kens Ive played and use even less fingers to count how many were actually GOOD.
http://www.facebook.com/Sol.BRKR Etienne Pnj Austin

Why would people want a game that has been out for almost 11 years to be rebalanced?

oh, wait… scrubs.
- DaBeastGD
  
  Third Strike has been out for 13 years….
  - http://www.facebook.com/Sol.BRKR Etienne Pnj Austin
    
    My apologies, lol.
    - DaBeastGD
      
      Haha there’s no need to apologize my man.
http://www.facebook.com/jonny.modlin Jonny Modlin

I want the stages from Street Fighter III and Street Fighter III Second Impact, Street Fighter III: Second Impact Endings, arcade music from Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Intros for street fighter iii, street fighter iii: second impact, and street fighter iii: third strike, huds in classic arcade version for all games.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Quin-Harris/100003152124771 Nicholas Quin Harris
  
  That actually be cool.
- Semi_Auto
  
  I want that too. At least give us the stages for the first two SF III games.
- smoothnsimplified
  
  That’s a cool idea. Reminds me of what KOF XIII did.
- smoothnsimplified
  
  That’s a cool idea. Reminds me of what KOF XIII did.
- http://www.facebook.com/stephanis.koukis Stephanis Koukis
  
  This is the only thing the game could do and I’d be happy, besides fixing the awful matchmaking.
SnowParrots

I’ve always wanted the option to remove the challenges from the sides of the screen without changing to widescreen.
I’d be even happier if you could replace them with some of the artwork in the gallery, instead of having the gunmetal gray letter-boxing.
http://www.facebook.com/rishon.king Rishon King

i would love to see hugo have EX Backbreaker
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Santos-Montoya/1798306573 Santos Montoya
  
  id rather see the Kinniku Buster
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Almeson-Hoku-James/100000479628267 Almeson Hoku James
    
    He wants back breaker, you want butt buster, I want EX Gonad destroyer.
http://twitter.com/leakingpear Billy Fletcher

Thanks iantothemax, this could have been a thread for detailing the actual, fixable problems with 3SOE, but you had to turn it into a retarded rebalancing discussion!

The matchmaking is terrible, the training mode is actuall broken, there’s no input display, the game runs too fast, the UI has multiple pointless screens and waiting time, you can’t turn off the UI vault challenge bullshit in 4:3 mode, the online lobby system is awful and there’s various arcade imperfections like akuma vs seiei enbu, urien reflector colours and so on.

But nah, let’s talk about a rebalance no one is going to fund to appease a group of people who don’t play the game and won’t play the game even if you made it the most balanced game in the world because the only reason they give is a shit is they think they have a valid reason for complaint.
- iantothemax
  
  “What features should be implemented outside of balancing?”
  
  Try reading full articles before going off on this kind of tirade in the future. Thanks.
  - http://twitter.com/leakingpear Billy Fletcher
    
    Well ian, given I was referring to the inclusion of “What would you like to see updated if they do decide to tweak 3rd Strike’s balance?” at all, I suggest you try reading responses to articles before replying like a condescending dickhole!
    
    Thanks.
    - iantothemax
      
      Like it or not, that’s part of the discussion. I laid both possibilities out there and let people take it where they will.
      - http://twitter.com/leakingpear Billy Fletcher
        
        It’s part of the discussion because you put it there, 3SOE is a game that has been consistantly billed as being arcade perfect and repeatedly said that it was a love letter to fans of 3S. If this were a panel on exploring the possibility of SFIII:4th Down then maybe you’d have a point, but as is it’s just sensationalism.
        
        Cue you making a really weak implication that because they’re patching modern games with balance tweaks that they’ll do it to 3S or something.
      - eunsun
        
        You guys are both really being assholes to each other for no reason. It’s a discussion about video games, but you are taking this to a personal level like you’re both awful human beings. Chalk up another reason for people being uncomfortable playing FGs.
      - http://twitter.com/leakingpear Billy Fletcher
        
        You’re calling me out for calling him out as condescending dickhole by calling me an awful human being, now I don’t like to bandy around the word hypocritical but tag, you’re it.
        
        If people are uncomfortable about playing FGs because people in front page news threads have relatively mild heated arguments about things, then they probably will never get into any game or activity ever.
    - JasinWalraven
      
      your response to the article was being “ a condescending dickhole!” Why ar u upset when some is a ”
      condescending dickhole!” back at you?
      - http://twitter.com/leakingpear Billy Fletcher
        
        Hey I have nothing against being a condescending dickhole, you just lose the power to do it when you’re wrong!
Aaron Bauer

I don’t think the game needs a re-balance, except maybe how about letting Sean have ONE special move that’s safe on block? His low forward into light tornado perhaps?

Since that won’t happen I’d also like more stages, or even more costume colors.
akaisuisei

C.Viper
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Quin-Harris/100003152124771 Nicholas Quin Harris
  
  Fuck it this game needs X-factor. I mean if im getting bodied how am i supposed to comeback and win? Using skill??? Fuck that I want a mechanic to be dedicated to coming back.
  - http://twitter.com/PaiZuriSan Wendy T.
    
    noted -____-
http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Thornton/100001564441282 Adam Thornton

I would like to see all the old stages and the ability to play different versions as well(2nd impact and New Generation). I would fully welcome a rebalance, but you absolutely must not make it mandatory to play the rebalanced version. Give players the option before entering game modes to choose the classic or the rebalanced version. That way people cant complain that they hate the rebalance. They will always have a way to play the version they like best.
kennieKOLOK

Dont change the game, it is what it is. No one would be on 3rd strike if it wasn’t for the fact that it came back on ps3. I love the game as is. Only change I suggest, is the connection from player to player. Sometimes games can be a little laggy and some disconnect. That is all I have to say, don’t change anything. Probably 2nd impact stages, they look pretty nice in detail.
Ian Donmoyer

I wouldn’t mind the character positions not changing instantaneously the whole match every time I play anyone under green bars. And no, I’m not listening to any explanations of the rollback mechanic or whatever; bottom line is that footsies at mid-screen are a whole lot riskier when the other guy may have jumped in without me knowing it. If this is the GGPO everyone raves about, I am not impressed.
Carlos Ferrara

So yeah, when I saw the word “rebalance” I thought, Oh they are going to make a rebalanced mode separate from the original mode like in HDR, because that would be smart. But from the reactions in the comments I must be wrong. Surely these guys aren’t making idiotic knee-jerk reactions…
http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Quin-Harris/100003152124771 Nicholas Quin Harris

Funny how nobody wanted Marvel 2 rebalanced. Iantothemax are you just trying to troll? Cause this rebalancing shit is getting rediculous. Why would people want a rebalance anyway? God dammit you people are annoying.
http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Krisfalusci/100000457306764 John Krisfalusci

YOU BETTER NOT REMOVE URIEN’S UNBLOCKABLE AEGIS SETUPS! OR I WILL BE SO MAD…
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=881600720 Nathaniel Montes
  
  Capcom already did in an arcade revision/Dreamcast port of 3rd Strike.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Cahnty-McCahnt/100001360920109 Cahnty McCahnt

An improved Training mode is all I want, frankly
RELLIK .exe

I think this couldn’t b that bad. Vets will still be playing the game and hopefully more people will jump in. I think tweaking an older installment instead of always “new installmant” (which means X preproduction and developement). But if it’s going to be DLC, sometihng other than just a rebalance should be added. A balance patch shouldnt really cost imo.
- http://www.facebook.com/Trance.S.Core Technika Core
  
  Totaly not true about the vets thing. Remember HDR? what did the veterans do with that game? They threw it away and kept playing ST. You can’t just up and change a game. It doesn’t work that way.
  - RELLIK .exe
    
    True. I meant to say hopefully some would juust embrace SF3 cuz they love the game (like, if it somehow worked and new version did catch on).
    In a lobby like AE (prolly aasking too much) where you can still play super.
    IF a rebalance did catch on, you’d think diehards would still have interst in it playing. If not, 3rd Strike is still there.
    I can see rebalancing being very time consuming/controversial, but then I think what if it was just more minimal changes. Maybe then it wouldn’t be such a financial risk.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=881600720 Nathaniel Montes
    
    HDR had too many changes across the board. I should know, I am one of those vets.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Edacero-Pedazo/100002009120666 Edacero Pedazo

They must fix the joystick support, there are a lot 3rd joystick not work correctly in this game.
http://twitter.com/Cloak007 Cloaker

the online matchmaking needs to get fixed, I can hardly get a match and when I do, it’ll glitch out sometimes.
http://profile.yahoo.com/246DX6QDR6GADW6JQG4NZNUD24 Igloo

get that rebalance shit out of here
JasinWalraven

Add the whole cast of SF4 ae and SFA3
JasinWalraven

$2 per character
Kirk Warren

Would like to see a small update. Stuff like tweak meter gain/size of the bars for characters (yun’s bar is filled in couple whiffs for ex.). Fix Oro chicken loop so it works on the whole cast. Just minor tweaks to buff up the lower tiers. no major nerfs or new moves or anything.
ragnarok954

If anything, I would like to see some stages from New Generation and Second Impact.
Louis Lam

inb4 3rdstrikesucks
- thirdstrikesucks
  
  shit
http://twitter.com/JosephJBroni Dave Lang

This is Dave from Iron Galaxy, under no circumstances are we rebalancing 3S, we went over this at the panel but apparently there was a miscommunication somehow. When the stream of the panel comes out check it out, see what we’re planning on fixing, and post what you think.
- http://www.facebook.com/zgnoud Duong Thieu Nguyen
  
  Hi Dave
  
  A few features i would love to see be patched in;
  - Please add region filter. The “online” component is completely useless unless you live in USA/Japan
  - Please patch in a feature where you can disable the achievements from being showed during classic mode (4:3 window).
  - Also if possible… please rework the lobby system. Gets very annoying when you accidentally skip your turn by pressing one too many buttons after winning a match.
- http://profile.yahoo.com/246DX6QDR6GADW6JQG4NZNUD24 Igloo
  
  Thanks for this post.
  
  The 3s community has discussed a lot what could be fixed with this port. If you check the SRK 3s board you may have to wade through some anger but if you guys are wanting to figure out what the people who actually play 3s a lot think, that’d be the place to do it.
  
  I understand you guys probably can’t fit everything, especially stuff as difficult to nail down as “the speed is a little bit off from the arcade mode” but there’s some glitches and useability issues that have been discussed a lot and fixing them would go a long way towards good will from the community.
- http://twitter.com/kaiser_chip hismit
  
  - Bring back original sounds as the new option. The OE’s sounds whenever you get hit or took down are really annoying.
  - Original HUD.
  - No transitional music between rounds. Keep it the same as arcade.
  - Use ping number instead icons. And add regional or country flags like SFIV.
  - Blind select in ranked matches.
  
  - NEVER care about idiots’ statements about rebalancing . Keep it original and ARCADE PERFECT.
  
  Hit up with someone like ryan or 5Star in SRK 3rd Strike board, they’ll provide more.
  - kn3ll
    
    I would love an original sound option. Same with music.
  - http://www.facebook.com/Cousin.Kevin Austin Chandler Howe
    
    I would really like the original soundtrack where Urien’s theme didn’t sound even more like garbage, and Yun/Yang’s theme sounded pulsing and exciting instead of dreary and “atmospheric.”
  - http://www.facebook.com/Cousin.Kevin Austin Chandler Howe
    
    I would really like the original soundtrack where Urien’s theme didn’t sound even more like garbage, and Yun/Yang’s theme sounded pulsing and exciting instead of dreary and “atmospheric.”
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BYN5NQ6JQ6NHAUUDMJNRJEU654 ChrisL
  
  oh they’re NOT rebalancing? ok close this topic! there’s NOTHING to see here anymore. what a waste of time.
Simon Youl

The usual argument against rebalancing is that “it discourages people from figuring out natural ways around obstacles, which is how the scene evolves”. This argument absolutely does not work for a game as played-out as 3S. I’m not saying that we know absolutely everything about 3S, but I think we pretty much know at this point which characters need help.
- cs_snofly
  
  Honestly, do you want a game where there aren’t any struggling characters? If someone wants to pick Q, he can pick him. But he’ll most likely have to come up with an unorthodox style, good reads and crazy parry skills or something. That’s what we want to see.
  
  Every game has tiers. Perfect balance in a FG? I’d like to know one. This game has very decent balance. Granted, Twelve doesn’t have an unblockable setup, but he has good options against every characters, so he can win. All you need is a gameplan and skills to execute.
  
  Tier whores do their thing, you do yours.
thirdstrikesucks

Hey guys what’s going on over here
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Almeson-Hoku-James/100000479628267 Almeson Hoku James
  
  aw shit
http://www.facebook.com/zgnoud Duong Thieu Nguyen

REGION FILTER
For a game called 3rd strike “online edition”… i seriously can not believe how they can drop the ball on that one. Pretty much made the game dead on arrival outside of USA/Japan
http://twitter.com/Little_GotenSRK Little_GotenSRK

’3S’ and ‘Rebalance’ do not belong in the same sentence. The whiners would hate this game even if it had perfect balance.
Expiriment_Kow

No rebalance, fix whatever was brought up in that thread like a bit after release. I’m not a 3S player myself but a lot of OG players had complaints so fix that shit and make it arcade perfect
Cal Neuvost

I don’t understand why people are so hateful towards the idea of an OPTIONAL rebalance mode. I’d love to watch competitive 3S with some character variety.
- http://profile.yahoo.com/246DX6QDR6GADW6JQG4NZNUD24 Igloo
  
  then you should check out TheShend on Youtube. everywhere outside of Evo this game has character variety.
  
  we’re against a rebalance mode because the game is what it is and has been for more than a decade. the playerbase is already small everywhere outside of Japan and releasing a rebalance would only split the already small community, same as HDR did. add the fact that the vast majority of people who know the game well enough to be qualified to rebalance it don’t want a rebalance, and there’s no way to see it turn out well.
  
  OE has some glitches that need to be fixed, some useability issues that need to be addressed, and some netcode that seems to be worse than HDR and Skullgirls equivalent GGPO netcode. addressing those should be the priority with any future patches we get, not making a rebalanced mode that people will play for six months and then abandon the game again.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BYN5NQ6JQ6NHAUUDMJNRJEU654 ChrisL
  
  They are afraid they’ll have to put in WORK to keep an advantage. WHY else would a person be fearful of the idea that ALL characters can be used AND be just as viable as the tier-whored three?
  
  it’s dumbest defence against balance on god’s earth. “we’ve been practicing these strategies for too long to change now.”
  
  i guess you’ll CONTINUE to tier-whore and play BY YOURSELF then. nobody cares about “your old tech”.
  
  that’s why capcom’s fighters suck now. there’s ALWAYS something to exploit to the fullest that lames use to gain some sort of insurance on win percentage.
- http://twitter.com/Str8_Chance Chance
  
  Because you say theres no character variety in competitive 3s I know you dont watch competitive 3s
- http://twitter.com/Duralath Andrew Alandy
  
  Watch a video from Japan, then, since you’ll see way more character variety.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Geoffrey-Tasker/100000736219876 Geoffrey Tasker

bring back Second Impact sean
http://profile.yahoo.com/TGIDZZVL24YPLDA54UUDQBBABY RisingStar

Can we have the orignal arcade character select screen and menu screens? I prefer it to the new one.
kn3ll

SF3:1 and SF3:2 stages, music and color palettes, original arcade music. Fix the announcer calling KO when you don’t get KOs. Fix the rollback for bad latency matches. I’m not going to lie to myself and call 3s perfectly balanced, but it’s been out too long. SF5 should just be a sequel to 3s, they can balance it then.
http://profile.yahoo.com/E3SCCUUIQFYD27RYD6VGXNM6IM VirtuaFighterSucks

Ah Turd Strike, one of the most overrated pos this site worships. A game no one gave a fuck about til some jap guy parried a super, then everyone suddenly decided it was the best game ever!
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1124748606 Orin Quinn
  
  Try harder.
- adidaas
  
  Shouldn’t you be in a Virtual Fighter Article?
- Bill Cosby
  
  you accidentally logged into the wrong account, you’re supposed to be on ‘thirdstrikesucks’ right now.
  - thirdstrikesucks
    
    I am not virtuafightersucks, but lol @ you 3s scrubs flagging dissenting opinions because you can’t handle it. flagging people’s comments cuz you have no rebuttal is like picking chun in 3s cuz you can’t beat scrubby Sean players.
    - Bill Cosby
      
      orly? because you have identical syntax, spelling mistakes, etc.
      
      Also why would the flag bother you unless it was you? Oh, because its you.
      - thirdstrikesucks
        
        Please explain why I would need an alt, so that I may have a hearty laugh at your expense before going to sleep.
- pootnannies
  
  lol at thinking this site worships 3s.
kscallin

I’d love to see 2i’s win/loss screens and stages added. The fact that the win taunts were customized to your opponent and gloriously hand-drawn gave every win an engaging visual appeal that 3s inexplicably abandoned entirely. As for 2i’s stages, there was so much more more personality there than in 3s’ stages. Not that 3s’ were all bad–they just didn’t measure up to the standard set by 2i. Let me fight in front of a massive automobile/watermelon collision, smash around inside a Chinese temple, or risk life and limb brawling on a rickety bridge spanning a waterfall.

Admittedly, this is really basic, run-of-the-mill stuff, but pretty much everyone else here has contributed some really cool ideas that Capcom really needs to make happen. SFIII HD: Hyper Fighting would kick unbelieveable amounts of ass. I’d love to see a rebalance of the 3s roster, too. Like others have already mentioned, it doesn’t have to be a massive overhaul. As long as it’s optional to use the rebalanced roster, what’s the harm in at least taking a crack at it? Worst-case scenario: people play it for a couple weeks or months, realize it sucks, and go back to 3s Classic. On the other hand, there’s always the chance it’ll be an improvement and it breathes new life into 3s.

I love 3s. It’s awesome. It pretty much stole my life from 2004 to 2008. But let’s not act like the game was perfect. Chill on the whining for a sec and just let Capcom take a crack at it on the off-chance they do something brilliant. If the blow it… well, it’s not like it would be the first time Capcom did something tremendously disappointing.
pootnannies

fix the incredibly shitty lobby and have ping work properly instead of going from yellow or green for the first minute, to red the next. seriously, why can’t we just have ping in numbers?
ranked matches are fucked up. take a lesson from sf4 on this one because they actually got a few things right and that was one of them. it sucks waiting 5 minutes at a time to refresh and 80% of the time you get a yellow connection.
3s on traditional ggpo on pc was a much better experience than 3sOE. and while i’m complaining, what the fuck were you guys smoking when you came up with those shitty color palettes? we have about a million here on srk for free that blow away every single one you came up with. looks like a machine went through 3soe with a random color generator.
ouroborus

2i yang, 2i sean, 2i ibuki.

make it happen!
ouroborus

2i yang, 2i sean, 2i ibuki.

make it happen!
http://twitter.com/Little_GotenSRK Little_GotenSRK

Why do people want 2I Ibuki so badly? She’s 3S Chun on crack, they’d just bitch some more.
http://twitter.com/DevilJin01 Devil Jin

How about fixing the game so it’s actually a real replica of the arcade version and not just a coded Dreamcast verison.
- Endre Hoel
  
  I heard the only difference is the colors of some stuff. Are there any actual differences in gameplay?
  - http://profile.yahoo.com/246DX6QDR6GADW6JQG4NZNUD24 Igloo
    
    Yes. The timing is off from the arcade version, a lot of notable US players have mentioned it. There’s a couple other things that got changed in the translation as well.
    - TempBast
      
      How’s the timing when 3rd strike is emulated on FBA? Is it closer to the arcade?
      - http://twitter.com/Dragonsever Paul
        
        Unfortunately it’s impossible to “fix” the timing (input lag) of the game to match the arcade. This is because both PS3 & 360 have a minimum of 4 frames input delay, while arcade has no such minimum (most Naomi and CPS3 games use a buffer of 1 frame).
        
        So there’s always going to be that 3 frames of extra delay unless they port it to PC… or you just play on PC GGPO.
      - TempBast
        
        So your saying the timing seems faster because of the innate input lag from the consoles?
        
        Although, I didn’t get an answer for my question. (PC GGPO is played through the emulator FBA.)
      - http://twitter.com/srslygtfo Mr. X
        
        The port runs faster than arcade.
      - http://profile.yahoo.com/246DX6QDR6GADW6JQG4NZNUD24 Igloo
        
        No. The arcade hardware has an innate 4 frame delay as well. And when we say timing, we’re talking about the speed of the game itself, not how laggy it feels. Lag is an issue with playing any emulator as well, but it is completely separate issue.
        
        Windows also has more lag by default than either 360 or PS3. They all buffer video and audio basically the same way, Windows is just worse about it.
        
        Literally no part of the post you made was true.
      - http://profile.yahoo.com/246DX6QDR6GADW6JQG4NZNUD24 Igloo
        
        as far as we know, it goes like this (from fastest to slowest)
        
        PS2 > FBA > OE > Arcade
        
        none of the ports or emulation are correct but OE is the closest. we don’t have any hard tests or data to show that though, it’s based on the perception of a bunch of people.
Zach McCoy

Fix the sound glitches and give the option of using the old HUD are the two biggest ones. I’d love to see the speed slightly tweaked as well (the arcade version runs slightly slower)
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pfeiffer-Cooper/100003512474341 Pfeiffer Cooper

Some things I would like to see:
A complete overhaul to Ranked. As it is, it’s just a grind. Since you don’t lose points for losing a match, and matchmaking disregards rank completely, it’s pretty meaningless. It’d be nice to play better players as you rank up, and to have a little stake in winning. I would really like to see my ping in numbers instead of just a random, unreliable green, yellow or red light. Also, a region filter would be appreciated. The youtube upload feature is a good idea, but on xbox it really isn’t implemented very well. It’d be nice if you could add matches to your actual channel, instead of dumping them into some global one. I don’t know if there’s an issue with licenses here, or if it’s even possible, but it’s a waste of a feature as is.

It’d be nice if the build was actually arcade perfect, but I realize it’s probably a little late for that.
- Bill Cosby
  
  your suggestion is ‘make me care about the imaginary number i get for beating people online?’ You are a lost cause.
Endre Hoel

Why not balance AND leave it unbalanced? Make a ‘balanced’ version and leave the feature to play ‘classic’ balance as an option (that is available online, of course.)

I would like to see a balance-patch just to see if the game becomes more fun.
- http://profile.yahoo.com/246DX6QDR6GADW6JQG4NZNUD24 Igloo
  
  I’ll quote what I replied earlier to the same sentiment:
  
  we’re against a rebalance mode because the game is what it is and has
  been for more than a decade. the playerbase is already small
  everywhere outside of Japan and releasing a rebalance would only split
  the already small community, same as HDR did. add the fact that the
  vast majority of people who know the game well enough to be qualified to
  rebalance it don’t want a rebalance, and there’s no way to see it turn
  out well.
  
  OE has some glitches that need to be fixed, some useability issues
  that need to be addressed, and some netcode that seems to be worse than
  HDR and Skullgirls equivalent GGPO netcode. addressing those should be
  the priority with any future patches we get, not making a rebalanced
  mode that people will play for six months and then abandon the game
  again.
Joseph King

Whats the point of re-balancing a dead game? Its not gonna increase sales or make new fans. Its just a waste of time and money. Just pray that parry’s come back in some form in SF5.
RunningWild1984

3SOE doesn’t need any balance changes. What it needs is bug fixes and optimizations to the netcode. That’s it.

As a bonus though, I’d like to see some NG/SI stages included.
wes keaton

Hey, Remember when Dan Sirlin spent an eternity re-balancing and re-drawing SSF2THD? The outcome was……..people bitched and nobody played it. Just leave it alone at this point. Capcom should worry about getting Iron Galaxy to port their other old fighters with GGPO, instead of spending money updating and balancing. Just port Alpha, JoJo, Darkstalkers, Red Earth, Cyberbots, Fighting Evo, etc.. Spend the money there, we will all be happier
- http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair
  
  People are going to bitch either way.
  
  But not rebalancing a game just continues Third Strike’s history of subpar performance. 1999! Remember 1999!
  
  It was called “Online Edition” not “Almost Arcade Perfect with Online Multiplayer Edition”. They had an opportunity to adjust and tweak things, and they didn’t take it. The same problems that plagued Third Strike in 1999 still affect the game over a decade later.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1341129325 Xavier D Culver

I’d like to see a “4th down” patch. Balance + characters. Just a straight up expansion, I dont care if its payed. I love 3S but I’d like to see some differences to the game as well. More characters, better balance, different name, and less complaining from “vets” cougholdfogeyscough.
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http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VKFFX7ELJVVJJKINZX5JPYCRQU Zyx

I pretty much agree with most of what was said here. There is no point in changing anything game wise in 3s. It’s the game people have grown up with and to anyone that has played it for that long won’t welcome any change. Even the low tier heroes like having there pride beating Chun in those difficult match ups. People are still going to want to compete in the game they have spent 10+ years mastering. Learning a simular game would probably just confuse them and make them angry it doesn’t function like they remember. It will draw attention at first, but die out eventually and people will go back to the real tournament standard.

If they want to do Street Fighter 3 however with a 4th edition, that could be intersting. Make it simular to a 2nd impact to 3s like upgrade. New characters, stages, super arts, music, everthing. New 2d sprites and moves for characters. It is unlikely though since that would take time and money to do that.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VKFFX7ELJVVJJKINZX5JPYCRQU Zyx

I agree changing 3s now isn’t a good idea. People won’t really accept it. It will get attention at first then die out. If they really want to what could be interesting is a 4th edition like someone mentioned. Doing a completly new street fighter 3 with new stages, characters, super arts, animations and attacks. Thart seems unlikely due to the time and money that would take.
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http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=745579039 Justt Bruce

I hope they buff some low tier characters like sean
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=745579039 Justt Bruce
  
  nm I just read the rest =( stupid 3 strike and their yun chin ken yun chin ken.
http://www.facebook.com/WitchElf Mika Scaare

Make the online as good as MVC2. Not sure what that game made different but it works purrfectly while 3S “only” works fairly well.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1073511135 Danny Osborn

Rebalance? Really people? The idea that you could even successfully do such a thing is pretty dumb. Nerf chun? Ok ken and yang are gods. Nerf them also? Get bodied by dudley, oro, urien.. oh nerf them also? So where does it stop? Just nerf everyone down to sean level? Wow that sounds like a fun game….

If the rebalance cry babies do win this argument and they actually attempt such a thing I hope they are at least wise enough to do it with buffs and not nerfs. Things like urien unblockables, dudley parry only resets, extended yang combos, makoto single mixup kills, ect are at least in part.. what make this game fun. All that will be the first shit to go.. ..if rebalance becomes a reality I’d prefer they do it by attempting to make other characters better.. and not by taking away from strategies and tacs we’ve been enjoying and working on for over a decade.

All that being said no matter what happens this game plays, move, and acts 20x better than sf4. The parry system.. love it or hate it.. makes every match waaay more exciting and removes the need for extra comeback effects (like scub factor from marvel).
- http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair
  
  The answer is never “nerf”. The key is buffing weak characters until they can be considered for serious competition. As it stands now, and has stood since 1999, Third Strike is a game with three characters just as Marvel vs Capcom 2 is a game with five characters. Those extra characters shouldn’t even be on the roster.
  - http://twitter.com/PaiZuriSan Wendy T.
    
    how would you buff 12?
    - MMFS10
      
      there are plenty of ways to buff 12…its just that most of the people bitching about 3s are complete ass at 3s and therefore cannot contribute to any such discussion with any validity.
      - http://twitter.com/PaiZuriSan Wendy T.
        
        i like all the buffs u mentioned…oh wait……
http://www.facebook.com/people/Yan-Zhao/10516382 Yan Zhao

Would be nice if they actually cared more and took community feedback for current games, especially SFxT. God forbid that game needs tons of tweaks.
http://twitter.com/Str8_Chance Chance

You dont play 3s shut up
http://twitter.com/Str8_Chance Chance

You dont play 3s shut up
Model_M

How about, having the game not crash so damn often after a ranked match ends?
Model_M

How about, having the game not crash so damn often after a ranked match ends?
http://twitter.com/Str8_Chance Chance

Just make it arcade perfect (like promised). Then you can add other bullshit like colors and stages. Also seeing the ping in number form would be awesome.

Dont touch the balance at all; dont change a thing at all. The people who want balance don’t play and if it happens and they try it again all thats going to happen is vet players will parry everything they do (because theyre sf4 scrubs that dont mix shit up) and theyll all quit again and now youve wasted money pleasing game hopping scrubs
http://www.facebook.com/chaseb3 Chase Berry

Buff Q and I’m happy
http://twitter.com/chusestoa Jesus Salazar

PLEASE leave the game as it is, it’s a classic, just add 2nd imapact stages, that would be awsome!
http://twitter.com/chusestoa Jesus Salazar

PLEASE leave the game as it is, it’s a classic, just add 2nd imapact stages, that would be awsome!
http://www.facebook.com/Syxx573 Daniel Jones

way too late for anyone to care
Semi_Auto

I don’t know why they would consider doing anything to this game. I there really and out cry for that? Like people say ad the ability to use stages from the other 3′s and leave it at that……..
adidaas

Please change 3rd Strike Online Edition. The lobbies are horrible, probably second to SFxTK in how much of a pain it is to play Online. Other than that, maybe some actual decent trials that have some actual fundamental use in an actual match.
Bill Cosby

1. REGION SEARCH REGION SEARCH REGION SEARCH
2. Fix the horrible ass netcode. May not be completely necessary if step 1 is completed thoroughly and it turns out I’ve been playing Brazilians this whole time
3. Fix the bugs. Sound deciding to stop mid match.
4. Reduce the input lag (yea right)

DONT JUST GIVE US A REBALANCE. Give us SF3, 4th whatever. New game, new characters, engine tweaks, new supers, etc.
- Bill Cosby
  
  Oh. Input display in training mode/replays. Like, Duh? How was this missed in the “most complete fighting game ever made”
http://www.facebook.com/Cousin.Kevin Austin Chandler Howe

Don’t nerf anyone, just buff the shit characters. Chun and Yun can stay right where they are for all I care, I just want Remy to be able to do SOMETHING.
- http://twitter.com/leakingpear Billy Fletcher
  
  You might want to look up Pierrot on TheShend’s youtube channel, he’s in the highest danisen league possible in Japan and will probably blow your mind with how good Remy can be if you’re talented enough and put in the time. He benefits the most from charge partitioning and buffering, it’s just bloody hard.
  
  Yun is a bit of a weird character as it requires a huge amount of skill to play him to the point where he’s top tier, you can get by on only ever genei jinning off confirmed target combos/shoulders and have a strong character, but it’s when you can activate in a neutral setting and convert into big damage and lots of meter that he becomes top tier. To do that you need to have not only great execution of stuff like keeper jin which is where you do a series of tightly timed cr.mk -> kara s.hp links, but also have enough experience to know which ender to use when in accordance with how much GJ bar you have left, what you connected with and where you are screen position wise.
  
  Basically there’s a lot of hidden depth to every character in the game and you can make any character good enough if you’re willing to put in the time.
d3v

Hell yeah to no rebalance!
smoothnsimplified

Wow… I didn’t see that coming at all.
smoothnsimplified

I would like a legit training mode.
Amer1ka

A long time ago when I was playing SFII I mained Chun-Li and for any matchup that didn’t work out well for Chun (Guile mostly…this was before ST btw) I went with Ken.

I really missed the boat on playing SFIII. Of course it wasn’t for the lack of trying. I just never saw a machine where I lived. Actually, I’ve still never seen an original 3S machine anywhere.
http://twitter.com/TheMeth90 TheMeth90

- Better ranked mode, allow us to host a room or to search by AREA.

- Better matchmaking, search by AREA.

- Better training mode with no stun.

- 360p for Youtube Uploader for Xbox.

- Arcade perfect.
http://www.portalversus.com.br/ Azis Rafael

Do the 4th Strike.
RenegadeVA

Wanna fix 3rd strike? Ban Chun SA2 and Yun SA3.

Problem solved.
smoothnsimplified

Street Fighter III: Fourth Encounter.
http://www.facebook.com/stephanis.koukis Stephanis Koukis

It’s not. Honestly 2df (now Supercade) by Damdai was the best implementation of netcode for 3s. GGPO was alright but had a lot of problems with 3s because it couldnt be built around the CPS3 code. However, GGPO has been many people’s best experience online with 2D fighters. Capcom just keeps trying to put their own little spin on it and keeps messing it up.
http://www.facebook.com/stephanis.koukis Stephanis Koukis

It’s not. Honestly 2df (now Supercade) by Damdai was the best implementation of netcode for 3s. GGPO was alright but had a lot of problems with 3s because it couldnt be built around the CPS3 code. However, GGPO has been many people’s best experience online with 2D fighters. Capcom just keeps trying to put their own little spin on it and keeps messing it up.
http://www.facebook.com/stephanis.koukis Stephanis Koukis

It’s not. Honestly 2df (now Supercade) by Damdai was the best implementation of netcode for 3s. GGPO was alright but had a lot of problems with 3s because it couldnt be built around the CPS3 code. However, GGPO has been many people’s best experience online with 2D fighters. Capcom just keeps trying to put their own little spin on it and keeps messing it up.
tmac377

i just want it arcade perfect like they promised.
tmac377

i just want it to be arcade perfect like they promised
tmac377

I want 3 things. First, make it arcade perfect like i was promised it would be. Second i like on ssf4 online how you can kind of choose if you play a higher skilled player or not, that would be a nice feature to have. And Third Input Displays on Training mode, seriously ive been trying to practice kara palm with Yun and its making it hard to see what im screwing up.
http://twitter.com/YoSHO2U JL (aka SAOTOME2U)

1. Add SF3NG & SF32I stages, and allow us to customize which stage is allocated to what character. This will also solve the whole issue with the older version music restarting between rounds, so if you play on Ken’s 2I stage, you get his music.

2. Add SF3NG/2I character voices, and allow us to customize their voices as we can in SSF4:AE2012.
http://profile.yahoo.com/M4W3JYRDPLPJAUAIS76LEIAO64 Rock

Give Genei Jin the long super meter (same duration though).
Chun SA2 does less damage.

Everything else is optional.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000469612999 Kris Livingston

Team Battle Mode would be dope..
Jay Simon

fix the ex glitch for the love of god.

if you don’t know, the ex glitch is when the game randomly does not recognize you have pressed 2 (or 3) punches/kicks to input an ex move and the normal version comes out. this can cost you matches and is a huge issue.

the game also will randomly freeze my xbox for no reason.
Jay Simon

fix the ex glitch for the love of god.

if you don’t know, the ex glitch is when the game randomly does not recognize you have pressed 2 (or 3) punches/kicks to input an ex move and the normal version comes out. this can cost you matches and is a huge issue.

the game also will randomly freeze my xbox for no reason.
Jkzm

Remove parries. That alone would make the game 100x more interesting. Characters who actually have projectiles can finally start zoning correctly with their projectiles and actually force it as an obstacle. Imagine AA Supers actually being true AA? Go figure. It’s hilarious how if I play Ryu that my s.roundhouse is more effective then my actual Shoryuken, because it’s less risky due to parry.

However, on to the realistic side of this game. A balance for this has come a bit too late, when the interest for this game has all but diminished besides a few hardcore avid players, and Japan.

People stating that characters like Chunli or Yun not needing any balancing to their gameplay are clearly over their heads. Genei-Jin alone puts Yun in his position, when Yang does everything else 10x better, however since he doesn’t have Genei-Jin he’s not Yun. If Yun didn’t have that super, he wouldn’t even be breathing on the Top-Tier status and would be sitting at mediocrity.

Chunli destroys the majority of the cast besides Ken. This idea of “know the matchup” is stupid. When in the US and Japan during the height of 3strikes popularity and competition, the tournament results were dominated by Chunli players from all sides. So I take it that the best 3S players also didn’t know the match up to Chun am I right?

3S is by no means balanced whatsoever, and no amount of knowing the match up is going to give you and advantage in the fight if your opponent is equal to you in skill/knowledge and they are playing Chun while your playing Ryu or whatever.

Her, and Yun practically destroy the entire cast, and yes, sometimes you’ll see a random Dudley, Makoto, Gouki or Yang getting their licks, however it doesn’t remove the fact of what we’ve seen in the tournament results when this game was played like nobodies business.

Fact is, this game is very unbalanced, but then again, none of the SFIII games were ever balanced to begin with.

Will see what happens though, and see where it goes from here.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BYN5NQ6JQ6NHAUUDMJNRJEU654 ChrisL
  
  all very true, but people like crutches though. aksys games for life!!
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