Desk Takes on Skullgirls – An Introduction to Infinite Prevention

by MyLifeIsAnRPG on April 14th, 2012 at 2:58 pm

Desk is well known for finding ways to exploit fighting game systems. Today, he takes on Skullgirls and it’s infinite prevention system. Can Desk get around the system and find an infinite combo? No! Or at least, not yet. He can, however, produce an incredibly damaging combo within the system’s constraints.

This Cerebella combo does an amazing 11,174 base damage off of a j.HK in the corner. It starts at one meter, but builds one and uses two for a double Diamond Dynamo finish. As Desk performs the combo he explains how the infinite prevention system works and why the combo doesn’t trigger it. It’s still not enough to kill a character in one touch though. Perhaps he will find an even more powerful combo in the Cerebella CMV he is working on.

An excerpt from his official blog post about the video can be found below.

It’s a little weird at first but when you get used to it, it starts to feel (to me at least) a little like a mini-combo-puzzle game in which you have to hold back certain moves that you know you’ll need later on. Also, the fact that moves can actually be repeated, only not alone, or to start chains, feels a little odd, but after a short while it all starts to make sense.

This is something I really want to blog about a bit more but after I’ve spent a decent amount of time with 1/2 characters. I’m learning along with everyone else at the moment and I’m not sure if I’m approaching it in an optimal way just yet. Hopefully the combo example and the in-video notations are a good, early example of how the Infinite Prevention System works (or rather, how to stop it kicking in).

Source: Desk

http://www.facebook.com/people/Justin-Brown/1362756791 Justin Brown

let the game breaking begin!!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Justin-Brown/1362756791 Justin Brown

let the game breaking begin!!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1265175684 Anonymous

I wonder what happened to chair
- Jorge Almodovar
  
  Maybe chair is too busy breaking Namco and SNK Playmore games.
- Jorge Almodovar
  
  Maybe chair is too busy breaking Namco and SNK Playmore games.
  - http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair
    
    Chair was shot down over the Pacific Ocean trying to invade Australia.
    - http://twitter.com/iamgeorgepastor George Pastor
      
      Chair joined the convent,
    - Jorge Almodovar
      
      ^^ LOL
    - Jorge Almodovar
      
      ^^ LOL
    - Jorge Almodovar
      
      ^^ LOL
  - http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair
    
    Chair was shot down over the Pacific Ocean trying to invade Australia.
  - http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair
    
    Chair was shot down over the Pacific Ocean trying to invade Australia.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1265175684 Anonymous

I wonder what happened to chair
http://www.facebook.com/dmbrandon Brandon Nance

This is a shame. Everyday, more reasons why Cere is broken.
- Anonymous
  
  Every character in this game has a lot of tools. People are quick to attack Cerebella for two reasons, both of which are kind of silly:
  1. Mike Z made the game.
  2. She has a lot of tools.
  
  Don’t hate on Cerebella because she isn’t shitty like most other grapplers. Every character in Skullgirls has a lot of tools and is good.
  
  And no, I don’t main Cerebella.
- Anonymous
  
  Every character in this game has a lot of tools. People are quick to attack Cerebella for two reasons, both of which are kind of silly:
  1. Mike Z made the game.
  2. She has a lot of tools.
  
  Don’t hate on Cerebella because she isn’t shitty like most other grapplers. Every character in Skullgirls has a lot of tools and is good.
  
  And no, I don’t main Cerebella.
  - Anonymous
    
    Who gives a fuck about Mike Z. Cerebella is broken because she gets so much damage off of almost ANYTHING.
    - http://twitter.com/BigguDani Danny Alvarado
      
      So. Don’t get hit.
    - http://twitter.com/BigguDani Danny Alvarado
      
      So. Don’t get hit.
    - http://twitter.com/PaiZuriSan Wendy Thompson
      
      Unlike other grapplers right?
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Reginald-Kelly/100001485769715 Reginald Kelly
      
      Ur the worst player ever. i use hugo and sentinel against scrubs like u cuz i know a crouching medium with 2 hits of armor is a tactic u cant get around. why would i take u seriously if u cant even stop that. id delete the game if i were u.
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu
      
      …………um TODs aren’t broken.
      
      Otherwise UMVC3 is broken.
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Rowe/675477093 Nicholas Rowe
      
      stuart hayden and winback *seem* to have stopped posting. Now all we need is for you to fuck off and yay the 3 biggest front page dickheads on this site are gone.
      - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IMTJDLTMKTYTWBLWYJHRQ7G6EU Freaknasty
        
        ^This.
      - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IMTJDLTMKTYTWBLWYJHRQ7G6EU Freaknasty
        
        ^This.
      - Anonymous
        
        #MVGame
      - Anonymous
        
        #MVGame
      - Anonymous
        
        #MVGame
      - Anonymous
        
        #MVGame
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicholas-Rowe/675477093 Nicholas Rowe
      
      stuart hayden and winback *seem* to have stopped posting. Now all we need is for you to fuck off and yay the 3 biggest front page dickheads on this site are gone.
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-Kelly/100002632526247 Christopher Kelly
      
      Because she’s the tank of the game just like how Zangief tank of SF4, Zangief does BS like grab you from miles away of out of any move you do but your going to hate on a Cerebella for being actually good, sounds like you suck.
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Stanley-Seymour/694256223 Stanley Seymour
      
      Its called spacing and blocking, ever heard of it scrub?
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Stanley-Seymour/694256223 Stanley Seymour
      
      Its called spacing and blocking, ever heard of it scrub?
    - http://twitter.com/broccoman Jeff
      
      So does everybody else.
    - http://twitter.com/broccoman Jeff
      
      So does everybody else.
    - http://twitter.com/broccoman Jeff
      
      So does everybody else.
    - http://twitter.com/broccoman Jeff
      
      So does everybody else.
- Quintus Havis
  
  Cerebella isn’t broken, you just have to keep her from getting momentum and enforcing her gameplan. She’s just not a Gief type grappler where a good normal shuts all her shit down.
- Quintus Havis
  
  Cerebella isn’t broken, you just have to keep her from getting momentum and enforcing her gameplan. She’s just not a Gief type grappler where a good normal shuts all her shit down.
- Quintus Havis
  
  Cerebella isn’t broken, you just have to keep her from getting momentum and enforcing her gameplan. She’s just not a Gief type grappler where a good normal shuts all her shit down.
- Quintus Havis
  
  Cerebella isn’t broken, you just have to keep her from getting momentum and enforcing her gameplan. She’s just not a Gief type grappler where a good normal shuts all her shit down.
- Quintus Havis
  
  Cerebella isn’t broken, you just have to keep her from getting momentum and enforcing her gameplan. She’s just not a Gief type grappler where a good normal shuts all her shit down.
- Anonymous
  
  Broken? What, because she has strong ass pressure and damage? Have you seen everyone else?
- Anonymous
  
  I main Parasoul, if everyone thinks Cere is broken thats good then I can’t be called too much of a tier whore right now while everyone is being distracted away from who is really the best.
http://twitter.com/DevilJin01 Devil Jin

I wonder if you can shake out of that stagger inbetween the 2nd and 3rd hit.
Anonymous

Day 1 for Desk
http://twitter.com/PaiZuriSan Wendy Thompson

When I heard Infinite Prevention…1st thing I thought of was Desk!
- http://www.facebook.com/thejagamemnon Jay Salinas
  
  ^this
- Lestat z
  
  There are no infinites. It’s literally impossible.
  - http://twitter.com/GrapeATL Grape 포도 약탈품
    
    Then why does Parasoul have 3 different ones?
    - http://twitter.com/Z3nl1k3 Francis N.
      
      Those aren’t infinites. They’re legitimately frame traps
http://www.facebook.com/people/Casey-Corrigan/519145415 Casey Corrigan

Cerabella is a force to be reckoned with by herself. Actually, I played a guy online yesterday who had an awesome team with Cerabella. Running Peacock on point, with Cerabella in the back using the move where she lunges at you with her back end. It was impossible for me to get in with Valentine. Every time I made my way in safely, projectiles and the assist would push me right back. One game wasn’t enough time to figure out how to get in. I wish I could recreate it in training mode so I could practice against it. It was such a good team, very smart concept. Hats off to that player, whoever he or she may be.

Now that I’ve brought it up, I expect to see more of this annoyingly useful team online, haha.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Zaimont/732839308 Michael Zaimont
  
  “with Cerabella in the back using the move where she lunges at you with her back end”
  That’s Double, not Cerebella. :^)
  - Novac
    
    I wish I could play as the boss in this game and learn more about her story.
    - Anonymous
      
      I love the game, very impressed with the gameplay and had a great time playing with a friend but the boss was a big let down. I sort of felt that, because of how unique and fresh the ideas for the other characters were, the boss might also be something different but it felt like I was fighting just another fat lump of random like many other bosses in fighting games before.
      
      I’d love to see lobbies introduced at some point because that seems to be the major reason some of my friends aren’t buying into it just yet
      
      I played SFxT and out of the whole roster failed to find any characters that I really got in to (no previous mains made it) but in this game I actually love all the characters so I look forward to more of those too.
      - Moribund Cadaver
        
        There’s been some random art of the boss in a normal on the ground fighting pose along with an accessory (bone vacuum!) as part of her move set.
        
        The theory right now is that this is only a quick and dirty boss form in order to get the storyline boss in the game somehow. And later on the “proper” version of the boss will show up as a DLC character.
        
        Mike Z has said he doesn’t want to waste any characters as non-playable bosses, sooo…
      - Moribund Cadaver
        
        There’s been some random art of the boss in a normal on the ground fighting pose along with an accessory (bone vacuum!) as part of her move set.
        
        The theory right now is that this is only a quick and dirty boss form in order to get the storyline boss in the game somehow. And later on the “proper” version of the boss will show up as a DLC character.
        
        Mike Z has said he doesn’t want to waste any characters as non-playable bosses, sooo…
      - Moribund Cadaver
        
        There’s been some random art of the boss in a normal on the ground fighting pose along with an accessory (bone vacuum!) as part of her move set.
        
        The theory right now is that this is only a quick and dirty boss form in order to get the storyline boss in the game somehow. And later on the “proper” version of the boss will show up as a DLC character.
        
        Mike Z has said he doesn’t want to waste any characters as non-playable bosses, sooo…
  - Novac
    
    I wish I could play as the boss in this game and learn more about her story.
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NENYSPUQQ6WX4NP3GNGPE3YB7Y gene p
    
    Mike when are you going to add more characters and lobbies? On a side note i didnt expect this game to be so great definitely my sleeper hit for fighting games this gen. Damn you Mike i cant stop playing this game and ive already convinced a few friends to purchase it.
  - Anonymous
    
    Hey mike, just wanted to let you know I’m loving SG, especially how Double has a ton of unique stuff like this. Valentine’s throw and Mortuary Drop are also fantastic. Good job.
  - Anonymous
    
    Hey mike, just wanted to let you know I’m loving SG, especially how Double has a ton of unique stuff like this. Valentine’s throw and Mortuary Drop are also fantastic. Good job.
  - Anonymous
    
    Hey mike, just wanted to let you know I’m loving SG, especially how Double has a ton of unique stuff like this. Valentine’s throw and Mortuary Drop are also fantastic. Good job.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Zaimont/732839308 Michael Zaimont
  
  “with Cerabella in the back using the move where she lunges at you with her back end”
  That’s Double, not Cerebella. :^)
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Zaimont/732839308 Michael Zaimont
  
  “with Cerabella in the back using the move where she lunges at you with her back end”
  That’s Double, not Cerebella. :^)
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Reginald-Kelly/100001485769715 Reginald Kelly
  
  Cerebella doesnt have a move that she lunges with her backside lol. thats double. One of her moves is a cerebella move they didnt give cerebella
  - http://twitter.com/xSagez Johnny Sayegh
    
    I think your lying…
    - Jose Di Paola
      
      I think he’s not.
    - Jose Di Paola
      
      I think he’s not.
    - http://www.facebook.com/Maguma Matthew Lewis
      
      Double has moves for all the other cast members that the other cast don’t have. That’s what makes her one of the best clone characters out there
    - http://www.facebook.com/Maguma Matthew Lewis
      
      Double has moves for all the other cast members that the other cast don’t have. That’s what makes her one of the best clone characters out there
  - http://twitter.com/xSagez Johnny Sayegh
    
    I think your lying…
- Anonymous
  
  Yeah I played that guy..or someone with the same strategy. After you get rid of Peacock he brings out Double and just spams Catellite Lives. x_o
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Stanley-Seymour/694256223 Stanley Seymour
    
    Same here, its not that hard to beat actually though it is a quite annoying. Thankfully you get a matchup like that once every, five or so matches and even then it can be beaten with patience and timing. Valentines eats Peacock spam for breakfast and laughs at Argus Agony, even Double’s stupid bionic car if blocked.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Kitsune-Zerodomai/1300773293 Kitsune Zerodomai

hmm just tried this combo (or atleast the begening of it) and it seems that you cant do this combo on cerebella as she hits the ground before i can relaunch her that first time forcing me to use my ground bounce anyone else try this combo to find the same thing?
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Zaimont/732839308 Michael Zaimont
  
  Cerebella is heavier, so that’s likely. Plus Filia has Captain Commando feet.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Zaimont/732839308 Michael Zaimont
  
  Cerebella is heavier, so that’s likely. Plus Filia has Captain Commando feet.
- http://www.facebook.com/UNdesTROY Troy Dalton
  
  Lulz. “Hao can counter OP Bella?” “EZ scrub, use Cere.”
- http://www.facebook.com/UNdesTROY Troy Dalton
  
  Lulz. “Hao can counter OP Bella?” “EZ scrub, use Cere.”
http://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-E-Adams/71006318 Bobby E. Adams

Rare footage of Desk looking free……..sigh who am I kidding…..Stay Free Me
http://twitter.com/WeFlyForever HiL Alcee

Desk will be the first person ever to find an infinite combo in a anti-infinite game. I heard Desk once found an infinite combo in Tetris. Just saying.
- Anonymous
  
  Lol.
Anonymous

So where is all the haters saying he stole this from Japan BBS?
Anonymous

So where is all the haters saying he stole this from Japan BBS?
AshyAss_Elbows

he is the surely the sturdiest of Desks. well done mothafucka
AshyAss_Elbows

he is the surely the sturdiest of Desks. well done mothafucka
http://twitter.com/xSagez Johnny Sayegh

Does Desk know this game isn’t made by Capcom? I think he may be lost… :/
http://twitter.com/xSagez Johnny Sayegh

Does Desk know this game isn’t made by Capcom? I think he may be lost… :/
http://twitter.com/xSagez Johnny Sayegh

Screw Cerebella, everyones doing combos with that ho. When is someone going to tackle Painwheel and Ms. Fortune?
http://twitter.com/xSagez Johnny Sayegh

Screw Cerebella, everyones doing combos with that ho. When is someone going to tackle Painwheel and Ms. Fortune?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-D/574045576 Matt D.

cerabella was the first person i actually felt comfortable with, the second character i chose actually, first was parasoul but i dont like her zoning, she feels a little slow for my play style. cerabella however fits how i like to play. i suck at online fighting, i am no pro, im a casual average player who cant do long combos i guess i need more practice with that but i just dont play fighters like i play adventure, or rpg gamse.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-D/574045576 Matt D.

cerabella was the first person i actually felt comfortable with, the second character i chose actually, first was parasoul but i dont like her zoning, she feels a little slow for my play style. cerabella however fits how i like to play. i suck at online fighting, i am no pro, im a casual average player who cant do long combos i guess i need more practice with that but i just dont play fighters like i play adventure, or rpg gamse.
http://twitter.com/xSagez Johnny Sayegh

QUICK QUESTION!; does this game do that shit that blazblue did where if you hit with the same move more then once the damage of that move would decrease? (disregard IPS)
- http://www.facebook.com/KnightLancer Daniel Song
  
  …You mean damage scaling? Every game does that.
  - Olof Fridh
    
    He is probably talking about repeat proration. An extra damage reduction for using certain moves more than once in a combo. For example Tagers Atomic Collider used first time scales the damage by 80% but if you use it a second time it will scale with an extra 20%.
    
    As far as I know SK does not have any move specific proratio values except that 1000+ damage moves have higher minimum damage.
    - http://twitter.com/xSagez Johnny Sayegh
      
      Thank you (was talking about proration)
Anonymous

Luu@starting with j.hk

“mini-combo-puzzler” is right. Saving your situationals makes the game THAT much more fun!

Formula for success: least amount of lights + most amount of heavies + running through each normal to get off another heavy + spam all lights in the end + super = best damage. Seriously~
Anonymous

Luu@starting with j.hk

“mini-combo-puzzler” is right. Saving your situationals makes the game THAT much more fun!

Formula for success: least amount of lights + most amount of heavies + running through each normal to get off another heavy + spam all lights in the end + super = best damage. Seriously~
Anonymous

cmon desk you can do it! show these losers dem infinites!
Anonymous

cmon desk you can do it! show these losers dem infinites!
Anonymous

cmon desk you can do it! show these losers dem infinites!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ian-Corral/100001780902248 Ian Corral

She is a grappler, of course she is going to get that much damage if you are careless.

This is also a corner combo, and the last place you want to be against a grappler is in the corner. Not to mention this is started off a jumping heavy kick. Just block and punish.

Grapplers are only a threat if you are not careful.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ian-Corral/100001780902248 Ian Corral

She is a grappler, of course she is going to get that much damage if you are careless.

This is also a corner combo, and the last place you want to be against a grappler is in the corner. Not to mention this is started off a jumping heavy kick. Just block and punish.

Grapplers are only a threat if you are not careful.
Louis Lam

Am I the only one that dislikes SG’s anti-infinite system?
- metaXzero K
  
  Why exactly?
- Anonymous
  
  I like it; you can still do crazy long combos (see above and more), it simply isn’t braindead loops.
  - dub bud
    
    This x 10000bazillionmillion0001
    
    Also you don’t even have to be that creative as long as you change the combo by one move. Just means you have to put a little thought behind it as well as execution .
- Anonymous
  
  Eh, it means they dont have to nerf moves in certain ways and have arbitrary hitstun scaling.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Jones/100000232905992 Ray Jones

im still waiting on this so called clip of desk breaking this game LMAO SORRY IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN good luck desk LOL
http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Howell/512710696 Richard Howell

is this the first game that desk can’t break

at least for now
http://www.facebook.com/people/Stanley-Seymour/694256223 Stanley Seymour

Desk is not going to find any infinites with this game any time soon, or at least ones that can get past the IPS, though I am glad to hear that he is having fun with the game.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Stanley-Seymour/694256223 Stanley Seymour

Desk is not going to find any infinites with this game any time soon, or at least ones that can get past the IPS, though I am glad to hear that he is having fun with the game.
http://www.facebook.com/DrZao Zach Hall

Screw infinites. Show me some glitches B]
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Howell/512710696 Richard Howell
  
  wrong game my friend. glitches are on the SFxT side. they got enough to make u think your watching a movie
http://www.facebook.com/DrZao Zach Hall

Screw infinites. Show me some glitches B]
http://www.facebook.com/people/Theodis-Jordan/100000901194591 Theodis Jordan

Cerebella is so broken please nerf her damage she takes no execution skills not to put down any body who mains her lol
- Anonymous
  
  She’s kind of easy to shut out, though. And her run-stop-loops and stuff like that does take quite a bit of execution.
  
  At any rate, I’m fairly sure people will adjust to fighting her soon.
- Anonymous
  
  She’s kind of easy to shut out, though. And her run-stop-loops and stuff like that does take quite a bit of execution.
  
  At any rate, I’m fairly sure people will adjust to fighting her soon.
Anonymous

Wow. People are saying Bella is broken? That’s my girl.
Anonymous

Wow. People are saying Bella is broken? That’s my girl.
Anonymous

Wow. People are saying Bella is broken? That’s my girl.
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