Back to Basics, Getting Beyond the Drama

Back to Basics, Getting Beyond the Drama
by on February 29th, 2012 at 12:35 am

 

Capcom wanted a reality show, and boy did they get one.  There was plenty of drama in Cross Assault, but the real surprise for me was how quickly the show bled outside of Capcom’s offices and into the general fabric of the Internet.  Streamers like Arturo Sanchez and LI Joe picked up on the daily controversy and rehashed it, creating a near 24-7 echo chamber of drama for the past week.   Perhaps inevitably, the mainstream gaming media got wind  of the worst of this and pounced on every salacious tweet and stream.

In the aftermath, some are saying that the fighting game scene is being unfairly characterized.  Others say that drama is just a new way of life in the age of the stream monster.  There’s a little truth to both of those, but here’s the important thing: this drama does not represent what the fighting game scene is or why it is so special.  But it’s a glimpse of what we could become if we don’t take this week’s lessons to heart.

The Fighting Game Scene: Who We are Really

In case you’re new, or just need a reminder, this is who we are.  Seriously, watch it.  It’s a great cure for your post-drama hangover.

No drama.  No popoffs.  Just a few thousand or so players from all walks of life who share the same passion.  You don’t have to hear what people are saying or understand the intricacies for Street Fighter IV to appreciate what makes this scene special.  And this isn’t an Evo thing.  This magic happens every week on a smaller scale all over the world.

There are two things I love about fighting game players.  The first is the pure competitive drive that you see in the players’ eyes.  Players love the game and love competing.  Fighting games are a means to measure yourself, whether you’re a new player or one of the best in the world.  Rivalries are a big part of that.  A rival will push you to get better.  The biggest rivalries motivate entire legions of players and account for some of the best moments in fighting game history:  Choi vs. Valle, Watson vs. Lee, Justin vs. Sanford, Justin vs. the whole west coast, and now Justin vs. the whole east coast.

The tragedy behind the Mike Ross vs. Jago setup is not the matches.  Mike says that the matches were legitimate and I believe him 100%.  But the rivalry was clearly manufactured.  Mike Ross vs. Jago wasn’t about the competition.  The competition was a farce — both matches were 5-0 beatdowns.  It was about manipulating stream monsters to believe that they should care about something that was meaningless.  Jago knew that when he said, “it aint about that playin’ anymore, it’s about the paper.”  By playing up a fake rivalry, Mike Ross and Jago conned their way into a $1000 show match that they didn’t deserve, but worse they undercut the competitive spirit that drives the scene.

Both Mike and Jago have done great things on the production side with Cross Counter and Finger Cramp respectively.  They are both good guys who made a mistake.  There’s no need to beat them up any more on this, but we all need to remember the lesson.  Authentic competition is what makes fighting game content so engaging to watch.  Faking it up undercuts the players’ and fans’ confidence in the quality of what so far has been an outstanding product.

Sexism, Harassment, and Us

The second thing I love about fighting game players is how genuinely accepting the scene is.  The scene is the most diverse on the planet, with players from all races, sexual orientations, and walks of life.  Tournaments are social, in-person events where it’s easy to meet new people and make new friends over the game.  My biggest disappointment this weekend is that when Aris said that rowdy behavior and sexual harassment was “one in the same thing” with the fighting game scene, no one called him on it (especially Jared, who knows better).

Yes, the scene is rowdy and uses colorful language.  A lot.  But that’s just the hard candy shell.  It does not define us.  Ask any long-time player about their favorite memories and almost no one will tell you about the time a caster yelled some obscenity, or the time someone popped off in another guys’ face.  People will tell you about their first event, or maybe a particularly memorable grand finals, or the fun times hanging out with friends after the event, or the fantastic trip to a new place where they met new people and became friends.  That is what defines us.

But there is a grain of truth to what Aris is saying, because frankly a lot of players use the scene as a cocoon where they can shed the usual social decencies and behave badly.  I do believe that the scene can be an unwelcoming environment for women.  Some of this is due to the game’s natural, high-strung competitive vibe, but a lot of it is just crass behavior that you would not get away with outside of our male-dominated boy’s club.  This is way too big of a topic for this article, but it’s something that I think we need to face and address.  It’s not about coddling women or sanitizing the scene.  It’s about instilling a common sense decency and calling out the blatantly bad behavior that today often gets a pass.

Back to basics

So what do I mean when I say “back to basics?” The formula that built the scene is remarkably simple.  Play the game.  Play to win.  Watch what happens.  That’s all you need, because when you do that, amazing things happen.  All the time.  What does the scene need to be successful?  Stick to what we’ve done over the past 20 years, because it’s amazing.

We also have to embrace opportunity.  The world of fighting games is now much bigger than just players and tournament organizers.  When others want to be involved with good intentions, we need to be more accepting.  This goes for content producers (who may not be top players), journalists, and casuals who enjoy watching the game but will never attend a major tournament.  It also means having a little more sensitivity to demographics outside 18-28 year old males, but like I said, that’s a topic for another day.

I’ll end this one with one of my favorite memories about the scene.  Please post your own.

 

Update, 3/1/2012:  In light of events that occured after posting this, I’ve posted a followup article.

  • Anonymous

    I think I can speak for everyone when I say: “Thank you”

  • Anonymous

    I think I can speak for everyone when I say: “Thank you”

    • Anonymous

      i was going to say domo arigatou, mr. inkblotto……

    • Anonymous

      i was going to say domo arigatou, mr. inkblotto……

    • http://twitter.com/MOBSSUPREME Mind Yours

       The thing is YOU DON’T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE.  Neither does the author.  There is no “WE”. There is no “US”  You can’t define all Fighting game players anymore than I can define all First person shooter players. This “community” talk is just bullshit.  Just because the fighting game demographic is smaller doesn’t mean we are unified. Heck,  First person shooter players  are probably more unified because they play in clans and all matches are team based.  Fighting games are one on one and stress the “ME” emphasis more than any other game.  We are all individuals, not lemmings.  All you can really speak for is yourself, and maybe 5  of your friends.  Anything else is self delusional. 

      • Anonymous

         Apparently the 93+ people who liked my post enough to bother themselves to hit the like button would disagree.

        I said Thank You for putting this all out there, for being real about it, and putting it better than I ever could.

        I think you’re overreacting a little.

      • Anonymous

         Apparently the 93+ people who liked my post enough to bother themselves to hit the like button would disagree.

        I said Thank You for putting this all out there, for being real about it, and putting it better than I ever could.

        I think you’re overreacting a little.

        • http://twitter.com/k0rr1 Eugene

          That’s not what he’s trying to say. He’s essentially saying you can only speak for yourself. We may be part of a community, but not everyone has the same opinion. 

          The appropriate response would be: “I think I can speak for most people when I say: thank you.”

          • Anonymous

             That’s fair. He came at me swinging and overstated his point. That shit was weird.

          • Anonymous

             That’s fair. He came at me swinging and overstated his point. That shit was weird.

        • http://twitter.com/k0rr1 Eugene

          That’s not what he’s trying to say. He’s essentially saying you can only speak for yourself. We may be part of a community, but not everyone has the same opinion. 

          The appropriate response would be: “I think I can speak for most people when I say: thank you.”

        • http://twitter.com/k0rr1 Eugene

          That’s not what he’s trying to say. He’s essentially saying you can only speak for yourself. We may be part of a community, but not everyone has the same opinion. 

          The appropriate response would be: “I think I can speak for most people when I say: thank you.”

        • http://www.geekjuicemedia.com/ Tom Badguy

          I feel the drama does not speak to all FGC players as well. But I just hope everyone takes a lesson from this and is more prepared next time. That’s really all I ask.

        • http://www.geekjuicemedia.com/ Tom Badguy

          I feel the drama does not speak to all FGC players as well. But I just hope everyone takes a lesson from this and is more prepared next time. That’s really all I ask.

        • http://www.geekjuicemedia.com/ Tom Badguy

          I feel the drama does not speak to all FGC players as well. But I just hope everyone takes a lesson from this and is more prepared next time. That’s really all I ask.

      • Anonymous

         I remember my first coffee…

        • http://twitter.com/MOBSSUPREME Mind Yours

           I remember that line being funnier in “Step Brothers”,oh four freaking years ago.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonas-Congzon/100000716832087 Jonas Congzon

             I remember my first beer.

          • Anonymous

            I remember reading these comments.

          • Anonymous

            this guy above you probably doesn’t cause I bet he’s not old enough.

      • Anonymous

        someone plays cod a little to much. the FGC  has groups to bro.

      • Anonymous

        someone plays cod a little to much. the FGC  has groups to bro.

  • Anonymous

     Sexism and Harassment is the “New Age” of Esports Kappa

    • Anonymous

      You forgot staged rivalry..

  • Anonymous

    *Applause*

  • Anonymous

    *Applause*

  • http://twitter.com/onReload onReload

    Succinctly put, inkblot!

  • http://twitter.com/onReload onReload

    Succinctly put, inkblot!

  • Anonymous

    Great article, Tom.  Exactly what we all needed to read.

  • Anonymous

    Great article, Tom.  Exactly what we all needed to read.

  • http://reboundpants.com Carlos A. Mercado

    Inkie, I love you. Why the hell is this not on D-Toid, Kotaku, PA, and Giantbomb RIGHT THE FUCK NOW?!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=769835536 Stuart Hayden

      because those sites suck?

    • http://twitter.com/davewburns David Burns

       The lead news guy on GiantBomb just retweeted it.  Relax. 

    • http://twitter.com/davewburns David Burns

       The lead news guy on GiantBomb just retweeted it.  Relax. 

  • http://reboundpants.com Carlos A. Mercado

    Inkie, I love you. Why the hell is this not on D-Toid, Kotaku, PA, and Giantbomb RIGHT THE FUCK NOW?!

  • http://reboundpants.com Carlos A. Mercado

    Inkie, I love you. Why the hell is this not on D-Toid, Kotaku, PA, and Giantbomb RIGHT THE FUCK NOW?!

  • http://reboundpants.com Carlos A. Mercado

    Inkie, I love you. Why the hell is this not on D-Toid, Kotaku, PA, and Giantbomb RIGHT THE FUCK NOW?!

  • http://twitter.com/FunkQue Bill N

    Real Talk

  • http://twitter.com/FunkQue Bill N

    Real Talk

  • http://twitter.com/FunkQue Bill N

    Real Talk

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ricky-Brown/100000273705129 Ricky Brown

    Well put.

  • Endril D.

    I don’t think it’s our job to be as welcoming to everybody as we can be.  But there’s a difference between joshing around about inappropriate topics, versus treating someone in a way they don’t appreciate.

  • Anonymous

    *Obligatory Daigo parry video whenever talking about how great the FGC is*

    • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

      You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the facts of life…

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EExDDEMWBrY

      • http://www.facebook.com/TonyOgborn Tony Ogborn

        That’s the old Filipino Champ.  Sure he’s still opinionated and fierce when it comes to his personality as a whole, he hasn’t done anything like this in a long time.

        • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

           Too be honest, I liked him more when he was an ass.

        • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

           Too be honest, I liked him more when he was an ass.

      • http://www.facebook.com/TonyOgborn Tony Ogborn

        That’s the old Filipino Champ.  Sure he’s still opinionated and fierce when it comes to his personality as a whole, he hasn’t done anything like this in a long time.

      • http://www.facebook.com/TonyOgborn Tony Ogborn

        That’s the old Filipino Champ.  Sure he’s still opinionated and fierce when it comes to his personality as a whole, he hasn’t done anything like this in a long time.

      • http://www.facebook.com/TonyOgborn Tony Ogborn

        That’s the old Filipino Champ.  Sure he’s still opinionated and fierce when it comes to his personality as a whole, he hasn’t done anything like this in a long time.

      • Anonymous

        Wait, are you saying that filipino champ is the bad guy in that first video. That dude was clearly trying to put him off his game by being the biggest dick possible.

        I’ve played in arcades where you get the living shit beat out of you for way less than that.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonas-Congzon/100000716832087 Jonas Congzon

           Agreed, fchamp and that other guy deserve each other at the very least.

        • http://www.facebook.com/pulsive.social.hyperactives.meet.here Max Talbot

          Dude JS Master is the king of shittalk. He’ll be so loud and provocative, but his main goal is really just to spark rivalries, IRL trolling. Notice he has much respect for his foes, but when him or his friend is up against somebody he knows had a big ego, he’ll start messing with it, cause it’s super mecha-hilarious when he does it, right? You guys need to differenciate nagging and actual beef.

          This is 100% genuine JSMaster, making shit hype as usual. Want some unsportsmanship behavior, look at fellas like SmoothViper.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tbOrgnl_P4&feature=related The NY crowd looks pretty hostile at times.
          Also..

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHqvEn1GNCI  (Watch the end only if you don’t have time)

          IMO the greatest popoff ever.And in response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty7VUjGiGoA&feature=related 
          THIS IS THE FGC KAPPA

        • http://www.facebook.com/pulsive.social.hyperactives.meet.here Max Talbot

          Dude JS Master is the king of shittalk. He’ll be so loud and provocative, but his main goal is really just to spark rivalries, IRL trolling. Notice he has much respect for his foes, but when him or his friend is up against somebody he knows had a big ego, he’ll start messing with it, cause it’s super mecha-hilarious when he does it, right? You guys need to differenciate nagging and actual beef.

          This is 100% genuine JSMaster, making shit hype as usual. Want some unsportsmanship behavior, look at fellas like SmoothViper.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tbOrgnl_P4&feature=related The NY crowd looks pretty hostile at times.
          Also..

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHqvEn1GNCI  (Watch the end only if you don’t have time)

          IMO the greatest popoff ever.And in response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty7VUjGiGoA&feature=related 
          THIS IS THE FGC KAPPA

      • Anonymous

        Wait, are you saying that filipino champ is the bad guy in that first video. That dude was clearly trying to put him off his game by being the biggest dick possible.

        I’ve played in arcades where you get the living shit beat out of you for way less than that.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonas-Congzon/100000716832087 Jonas Congzon

         That’s just fchamp being a Filipino. We bark like kittens and swing our hand around like our finger are penises.

      • http://twitter.com/CoopDeville13 Evan Cooper

        The main problem isn’t Filipino Champ in the second video. While it was a little child flip out, the stupid announcer who says “Wow, I respect that” is the problem….he should never speak again on a stream. That guy is trash at his job.

      • http://twitter.com/CoopDeville13 Evan Cooper

        The main problem isn’t Filipino Champ in the second video. While it was a little child flip out, the stupid announcer who says “Wow, I respect that” is the problem….he should never speak again on a stream. That guy is trash at his job.

  • http://twitter.com/broccoman Jeff

    If you want to avoid the drama, you have to stop tolerating the actions that cause it.
    This community coddles and enables folks who are part of the problem.

  • http://twitter.com/broccoman Jeff

    If you want to avoid the drama, you have to stop tolerating the actions that cause it.
    This community coddles and enables folks who are part of the problem.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Cannon/701758565 Tom Cannon

      Agreed.  The first step is getting people to understand that there is a problem.  We can be better.

      • http://twitter.com/broccoman Jeff

        I’m glad you see there is a problem.  Ultimately, you guys (the Cannons, since you run Evo+SRK) have the most influence to try to change the culture in this regard, which isn’t needed.

        It can be done, it’s just not an easy choice to do it.

    • Anonymous

      Wait, wait, wait. What ARE these actions, and what is the problem for you specifically?
      Because there’s changing a specific group, and then there’s changing society.

      • Courtney Graham

        There is no problem for a specific person

      • Courtney Graham

        There is no problem for a specific person

      • Courtney Graham

        There is no problem for a specific person

        • Anonymous

          That’s not what I meant. I even said specific group, not person.

        • Anonymous

          That’s not what I meant. I even said specific group, not person.

      • Courtney Graham

        There is no problem for a specific person

    • http://www.facebook.com/keishenra Kyle D. Johnson

      A-fucking-men.

    • http://www.facebook.com/keishenra Kyle D. Johnson

      A-fucking-men.

    • http://www.facebook.com/keishenra Kyle D. Johnson

      A-fucking-men.

  • http://twitter.com/poke133 Drago Umeharevich

     the Cannon brothers = always the voice of reason

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       Man if his dick were any further in your mouth, you’d be shitting out his cockhead.

  • http://twitter.com/poke133 Drago Umeharevich

     the Cannon brothers = always the voice of reason

  • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

    What I f

  • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

    What I f

    • http://twitter.com/MaximoLorenzo Maximo Lorenzo

      You want a cookie for doing what you’re supposed to be doing??

      • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

        As opposed for being blasted for an isolated incident? So a community can only be punished for being offensive, but not praised for doing something well? That makes no sense. 

        • Anonymous

          There’s a difference between getting praised for doing something exceptional and getting praised for doing what basic decency indicates you should be doing. The fact that people Kayo Police and Ricky Ortiz 

          have gained acceptance in that community is remarkable up until you realize that’s how they should be treated as a general rule and not as some remarkable case.

          • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

            But it’s not a general rule, is it? If it was a general rule then we wouldn’t have the problem in the first place. It’s anything but not a problem. The fact that they have gained acceptance is remarkable, saying that ‘that’s how it should be anyway’ doesn’t take anything away from that because in all honestly, it’s not that way. 

        • Anonymous

          There’s a difference between getting praised for doing something exceptional and getting praised for doing what basic decency indicates you should be doing. The fact that people Kayo Police and Ricky Ortiz 

          have gained acceptance in that community is remarkable up until you realize that’s how they should be treated as a general rule and not as some remarkable case.

      • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

        As opposed for being blasted for an isolated incident? So a community can only be punished for being offensive, but not praised for doing something well? That makes no sense. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       Yeah so accepting, that’s why people still made nasty comments about Ricky and Kayo right?   Be real, if Ricky sucked at fighting games you guys would be even worse than you already are.

      • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

        Besides some ignorant stream monsters, I haven’t heard any kind of incidents between actual tournament attendees and those players. And, be real, isn’t it better that Kayo and Ricky are defined more for being badass players than anything else? Why focus on what ifs, the fact is that they’re respected for being good as opposed as being defined by anything else. 

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

           Gee I dunno, I’d not really call it acceptance much if I were gay and the only reason I was tolerated(because lets’ be real, it’s tolerated, not accepted) was because I was good at fighting games.  If I played SC or LoL most people aren’t gonna give a fuck if I were gay, this community would though, what with all the constant “faggot faggot faggot” ghetto shit.

          • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

            Well golly gee there, that sounds like a whole lot of assuming don’t you know? Also, judging by this post and the others, defending one group while solely putting blame on ‘blacks’ and ‘ghetto shit’ is really classy. 

          • Anonymous

            His name should have clued us all in on that.

          • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

            Well golly gee there, that sounds like a whole lot of assuming don’t you know? Also, judging by this post and the others, defending one group while solely putting blame on ‘blacks’ and ‘ghetto shit’ is really classy. 

        • Anonymous

          While I don’t really want to agree with FCHAreRapists, the 3 or 4 times I’ve been at a major where Ricky was there, people would yell ‘pretty ricky’ and certain gay slurs when he played. I don’t know how much of it he hears or cares, but it goes beyond normal bantering at times.

          • hyerty

            its just saying stuff to throw them off their game. Using an easy example…Jeremy lin was called many things when he played basketball. It’s everywhere as disgusting as it sounds. But it’s like that to break people off their game. 

          • http://twitter.com/JakeWasHere1982 Jacob C.

            Of course it’s done mainly to throw people off their game. That doesn’t mean it’s NOT sick, stupid, and extremely f_cking wrong.

      • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

        Besides some ignorant stream monsters, I haven’t heard any kind of incidents between actual tournament attendees and those players. And, be real, isn’t it better that Kayo and Ricky are defined more for being badass players than anything else? Why focus on what ifs, the fact is that they’re respected for being good as opposed as being defined by anything else. 

      • Anonymous

        If you suck at fighting games, you will be ragged on regardless of age, gender, etc. I don’t know how they do it where you’re from but here and society in general you have to earn your respect especially in competitive scenes. And even still top players’ reputations get challenged. Bottom line is don’t suck at fighting games.

        • Anonymous

          Everyone deserves respect at least when it comes to privacy, personal choices, physical trait and etc. What people need to earn is acknowledgement or respect for their skill. It’s a difference that a lot of people don’t get.

      • Anonymous

        If you suck at fighting games, you will be ragged on regardless of age, gender, etc. I don’t know how they do it where you’re from but here and society in general you have to earn your respect especially in competitive scenes. And even still top players’ reputations get challenged. Bottom line is don’t suck at fighting games.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Cyr/100001091467656 Calvin Cyr

         And there’s the problem.  People hound on Miranda because she isn’t that great at these games, and that’s where the problem lies.  Who cares if she isn’t that great?  She’s still a human being, and doesn’t deserve the treatment she’s getting right now.

        • Anonymous

          She most certainly deserves it. She was joking around with Aris the whole time, then cowerdly forfeited her game vs. Subzero because Yan knew Sub would win, then she threw Aris under the bus to cover the fact she is a quitter 

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Calvin-Cyr/100001091467656 Calvin Cyr

             Do you seriously believe that?

          • Anonymous

            Let me clarify, she deserves being called a quitter because she is. Did she deserve that akward treatment fror Aris? no.

          • Anonymous

            Let me clarify, she deserves being called a quitter because she is. Did she deserve that akward treatment fror Aris? no.

        • Anonymous

          Then she needs to stay in the kitchen.

          • Anonymous

             Ha ha ha… fuck you. You rotten piece of garbage.

          • Anonymous

            Lol. So sensitive. I sowwy :-*

          • Anonymous

            Lol. So sensitive. I sowwy :-*

        • Anonymous

          Then she needs to stay in the kitchen.

        • Louis Lam

          Don’t take this guy seriously. Look at his name.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Impact009 David Truong

      You must not have been around for every long if you think the anonymous crowd is accepting of Ricky Ortiz.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=32403048 Troy Fagan

      Take a basic psych class and you’ll learn that negative experiences make more of an impact on people than do positive ones. The media is no exception. I’m not saying that Aris is justified, but that’s why his actions stick out to so many more people than everyone in the FGC not judging the fact that Kayo Police is a technically a man or that Ricky Ortiz is gay.

  • Bavo Bruylandt

    Every community faces these issues. I’m getting a bit bored from these articles, as if the FGC is so fragile and should be protected from the big bad evil world.
    If you think that these challenges are unique to this community, you have been inside it for too long. It’s everywhere, for everyone. And eventually you’ll find that things are merely evolving, as they should.

    Sometimes you need to loosen the controller.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       The cult analogy fits, like those creepy mormons who rape young girls

    • http://twitter.com/JakeWasHere1982 Jacob C.

      A has-been cult is what this community WILL be if it doesn’t start cleaning this shit up, and deservedly so.

    • http://twitter.com/JakeWasHere1982 Jacob C.

      A has-been cult is what this community WILL be if it doesn’t start cleaning this shit up, and deservedly so.

  • Bavo Bruylandt

    Every community faces these issues. I’m getting a bit bored from these articles, as if the FGC is so fragile and should be protected from the big bad evil world.
    If you think that these challenges are unique to this community, you have been inside it for too long. It’s everywhere, for everyone. And eventually you’ll find that things are merely evolving, as they should.

    Sometimes you need to loosen the controller.

  • Bavo Bruylandt

    Every community faces these issues. I’m getting a bit bored from these articles, as if the FGC is so fragile and should be protected from the big bad evil world.
    If you think that these challenges are unique to this community, you have been inside it for too long. It’s everywhere, for everyone. And eventually you’ll find that things are merely evolving, as they should.

    Sometimes you need to loosen the controller.

  • http://twitter.com/ZeroKirby Anthony Nguyen

    I agreed with this

  • Anonymous

    There’s certainly needs to be some guidelines to be formulated for how to behave around female players for the some of our community that are less…… versed in interactions with the opposite sex. I see and hear too many stories from young women who look rather poorly upon our scene because of one event that they goto and feel threatened, harassed, or all around uncomfortable while there. Not telling anyone to wear their church clothes and speak like they’re on the pbc channel, but there’s a small percentage(within common sense) of stuff you probably shouldn’t say or do.

    • http://twitter.com/broccoman Jeff

      My suggestion: if a female player flat-out tells you that something is unacceptable, stop doing it.  Sometimes guys realy don’t know when they’re crossing a line, and some slack should be cut, but if you know you’re a crossing a line , and still do it- throw the bum out.

      Worry about female players abusing this when the time comes.

    • http://twitter.com/broccoman Jeff

      My suggestion: if a female player flat-out tells you that something is unacceptable, stop doing it.  Sometimes guys realy don’t know when they’re crossing a line, and some slack should be cut, but if you know you’re a crossing a line , and still do it- throw the bum out.

      Worry about female players abusing this when the time comes.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah I mean, it’s not a fine line here.  I don’t think you should have to intentionally go out of your way to behave differently around females, because that’s just another form of discrimination. 

      You just shouldn’t act like a fucking socially dislocated retard.  9 times out of 10 if you say something in front of a female that offends them it would likely have offended almost anyone on some level. 

      There’s a difference between having thick-skin and being an island, and it’s pretty huge.

  • Alex -

    Thank you so much for this article. The thing for me that really got me into fighters was the community. After coming from MMO’s and FPS it was so damn refreshing to be part of such a respectful and friendly community.

  • Alex -

    Thank you so much for this article. The thing for me that really got me into fighters was the community. After coming from MMO’s and FPS it was so damn refreshing to be part of such a respectful and friendly community.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously tho, Mike wants to bash Art for exposing him talking about he did it just for the $3.50 and whatnot. You did what you did for money as well partner, just more, that doesn’t make you better than him. He didn’t do it for the money, I can’t speak for him but I’m sure he just did it to expose the truth. You think your fake rivalry was innocent fun, but sooner or later if your little farce worked, other people would follow suit, and other following them. Before you know it the whole scene is fabricated and it wouldn’t be about the game anymore. What you and Jago did was for the money clearly, you even said Capcom invited you there to do it. I found it suspicious when Ono-San only tweeted about your match and no others, but I’m not going to lie I believed it for awhile. I’m no longer going to watch any CC or any of that stuff not because of the fake rivalry, but for the crap that Mike said about Art. Also the sad thing is this sponsored player Mike Ross calling the people that give his channel and shows views Idiots all day, but when other people do it it’s a big deal. It’s just unreal.

    • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

      He called them idiots because they thought the entire fight had been staged. As for Mike being upset at Art, is that really so hard to understand? You’re friends with someone, you trust them (and not on the same level that your average stream monster trusts Mike Ross) and then when you ask them to put their shit away they keep filming because THEY want to get some views and stir up trouble because it makes them seem more real. 

      Arturo has been on this ‘I’m the hero the FGC deserves’, and while I respect him, I think that he should have known his boundaries. No the means don’t justify the end, but Mike being made at Arturo’s sneaky came tactics isn’t exactly the most hardest thing to get. It’s not pointless, he trusted Art and Art turned around and fucked him.

      • Anonymous

        It’s not about the views dude, even tho Art jokingly said that, that is not the case.
        Until you realize that your thought on this will be bias. It’s hard to answer your question because while I can easily say no I wouldn’t be mad, I wasn’t there. I have had something similar happen to me before I wasn’t mad at the person and we are still cool. How can you be mad if you were doing some underhanded stuff tho, it’s not right. What Art did was underhanded too in a sense and I’m sure he regrets it to an extent, but he only did it to expose the truth. Mike did it for his personal gain, which is selfish. Art gained nothing by this and didn’t expect to, I don’t know where you came up with this thing about Art saying he is the “I’m the hero the FGC deserves” stuff. It’s mad wrong, Art just wants to protect the scene that he loves is that so hard to see? You don’t consider what Mike and Jago were doing sneaky tactics? I don’t get you..if you see it that Mike was “fucked” then consider us all “fucked” by Mike and Jago for believing in the lies they weaved.

        • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

          Like I said, the means for the exposure doesn’t in anyway justify that Mike and Jago did lie to the community, and I’m not denying any kind of sneaky shit going on between them (up to the point that their drama was fraudulent, I still believe the match was the real deal). However, the fact remains that even if I was doing something illegal, of course I would by upset if someone I trusted suddenly turned me in. 
          I know Arturo does regret going about things the wrong way, because I’ve seen the twitter posts. The only thing I’m saying is that Mike Ross, regardless of the fact that he did pull this stunt, still is justified in his anger. Not because he was exposed and this has caused backlash, but because he obviously trusted Arturo enough to be real and talk to him but Art just went straight to the computer and uploaded the ‘truth’ behind the match. That’s what I’m trying to justify. Not Mike’s actions, but his reasons for being upset with Arturo. 
          Personally though, I don’t consider myself fucked. I haven’t seen any rivalry in the last few years that I’ve actually boughten into, and although I’m not condoning what Mike and Jago did, I’m just not that bothered by it. 

          • Anonymous

            Okay, let me set the record straight, Art didn’t upload it or title it. That was Honzo Gonzo, I don’t understand man, you are cool with Mike lying to thousands of people, but not cool with Art lying about him streaming? That’s doesn’t seem fair does it now?

          • Anonymous

             hes a mike fagg fanboy. h e probably has a picture of him on his wall.

          • Anonymous

             hes a mike fagg fanboy. h e probably has a picture of him on his wall.

          • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

            I’m fine with Mike playing up his beef with Jago, yeah. Now rigging matches is a completely different thing, but I’ve already stated my position on that. That said, I don’t understand why you keep assuming I’m comparing their respective ‘sins’ in any way shape or form. 

            What I have been saying is that, yes, I think that Mike Ross isn’t out of line for being upset with Arturo. They let Art start streaming because they’re friends, and Art broke a certain level of trust that was obviously there. I’m not offended by either action honestly, I’m just saying that it’s not like Mike was up there putting Arturo on blast for nothing. Just because Mike was wrong, and he was, doesn’t excuse how Arturo went about capturing that conversation in the car (even if he didn’t upload it). 

          • http://twitter.com/Paper_Tank Chris Henao

            I’m fine with Mike playing up his beef with Jago, yeah. Now rigging matches is a completely different thing, but I’ve already stated my position on that. That said, I don’t understand why you keep assuming I’m comparing their respective ‘sins’ in any way shape or form. 

            What I have been saying is that, yes, I think that Mike Ross isn’t out of line for being upset with Arturo. They let Art start streaming because they’re friends, and Art broke a certain level of trust that was obviously there. I’m not offended by either action honestly, I’m just saying that it’s not like Mike was up there putting Arturo on blast for nothing. Just because Mike was wrong, and he was, doesn’t excuse how Arturo went about capturing that conversation in the car (even if he didn’t upload it). 

          • Anonymous

             well you are a fanboy

          • Anonymous

             well you are a fanboy

          • hyerty

            You do know that people in the car asked arturo if he was streaming after they revealed everything. It’s not like it was in the beginning of the car ride. They were revealed anyways…they were seen chatting together hours earlier when the phone camera was put down on a table.

          • Anonymous

            Ross isn’t justified in anything. He is a liar, I I simply can’t belive the matches are real since they both went 5-0. And when watching Jagos matches before Ross, he was tearing everyone up with his Juri, then vs Ross didn’t tag her in much at all

          • http://twitter.com/spankminister spankminister

            I don’t understand how everyone thinks this is some expose like Nixon and the Watergate.  People have been saying this has been a fake beef a la pro-wrestling since it started; it’s not like I’m the only one to notice this.  Ross and Jago were doing this to see if it was a possible angle in fighting games and it turns out it wasn’t.  If the fights themselves were staged, they would’ve been a lot closer than 5-0, it was one of the least hype matches at Bar Fights.  I don’t blame them for trying, it certainly resulted in some entertaining FingerCramp posts, but the lackluster play was proof that it failed.

            I wholeheartedly support the videos/DVDs CrossCounter puts out, it’s certainly more real than having an outside company come in and monetize it.  But one thing I will say was wrong of them to do was to put a match where the main attraction was manufactured drama up alongside the other matches.

    • http://twitter.com/YoSHO2U JL (aka SAOTOME2U)

       You know honestly, at first I was VERY upset with Mike & Jago after seeing that footage from Art.  However, after given it some thought, I realized that “hey, I’ve been punk’d”, kinda laughed about it, and let it go.  The thing is, okay, the rivalry was fake…fine, nothing wrong with that.  Mike says the match was real…..this gives me pause a bit.  Why?  Because of Art’s video.  If Art’s video hadn’t been released, then I would believe the match was real.  However, hearing the “paper” comment from Jago really made me think that the match was staged as well.  I’m sorry to both players, but it’s just not a good look.  Their credibility, to some degree, have been compromised.  Look, there is always the “thought” that boxers, extreme fighters, wrestlers, etc. are sometimes coerced to “take a dive”, but nothing ever comes out to make us suspicious that it could be true — it’s usually the conspiracy theorists who state that.  However, in this case, a video was leaked to give some doubt.  I only have Mike’s word that the actual 5-0 match was real, so okay, I’ll trust him despite the video putting doubt in my head a bit.  It’s just not a good look when your credibility has been compromised.

      • Bavo Bruylandt

        Well, eventually it will come to a state that there is no transparancy anymore and that deals like these will become private affairs, protected in a criminal way. That’s how large organisations tend to keep these things hidden from the public. Nobody gets to know.

        They let Art know tho, and he did the silliest and most naive thing one could do. Blow himself together with his friends up for some attention. 

        • http://twitter.com/JustinSchisler Justin Schisler

          I dont think Art was trying to get attention, he just wants to keep shit real.  Earlier in the day on xassault stream he asked spooky if he should blow the Jago/Mike ross thing up.  At that moment he decided not to say anything on stream, but you could tell the manufactured hate left a sour taste in his mouth.  Lying to the community and CC selling DVDs based on those lies is completely against what the FGC is and Art recognized that.

      • Anonymous

         Do you have a link for that footage?

    • http://www.facebook.com/villatoro Oscar JeanChristmas Villatoro

      wait what happened?!?!?! WHAT DID i MISS?>!?!?!?! damn this night job has kept me out touch with society??? is there a video im missing here??!?!?! ;_;

    • Anonymous

      Really, nobody wins in this situation. Mike and Jago’s careers will always carry this blemish and Art…. Well, I wonder how many of his friends still trust him after this incident. Exposing people you don’t know is different from selling out your friends.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously tho, Mike wants to bash Art for exposing him talking about he did it just for the $3.50 and whatnot. You did what you did for money as well partner, just more, that doesn’t make you better than him. He didn’t do it for the money, I can’t speak for him but I’m sure he just did it to expose the truth. You think your fake rivalry was innocent fun, but sooner or later if your little farce worked, other people would follow suit, and other following them. Before you know it the whole scene is fabricated and it wouldn’t be about the game anymore. What you and Jago did was for the money clearly, you even said Capcom invited you there to do it. I found it suspicious when Ono-San only tweeted about your match and no others, but I’m not going to lie I believed it for awhile. I’m no longer going to watch any CC or any of that stuff not because of the fake rivalry, but for the crap that Mike said about Art. Also the sad thing is this sponsored player Mike Ross calling the people that give his channel and shows views Idiots all day, but when other people do it it’s a big deal. It’s just unreal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joel-Jolly/724600581 Joel Jolly

    Aww jeez, the combination of words and video (EVO Hype) made my day (night). Back to the basics indeed. Thanks Inkblot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/1.2.3.Gabe Gabriel Garcia

    This video is what made me love the community.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIDCSsBVH9M

  • http://twitter.com/Zclyh3 Tony Chung

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the FGC needs a governing body or some subset of code of conduct rules that is agreed upon.  Is something like this in place for all tournaments that is part of the “Road to Evo 2012″ list of events?

    • Bavo Bruylandt

      I guess inkblot would like to do it

  • http://twitter.com/YoSHO2U JL (aka SAOTOME2U)

    Very good article.  Very good.   This really has been a week of things not being a good look for the FGC.  From questionable credibility, to the harassment issue.  Point is, if bad and inappropriate behavior is not addressed, only to be brushed off as if nothing, then it will continue to be there, fester and stink up the place.  Nothing wrong with a li’l fun, but there comes a point where respect, common sense and good judgment need to be in place.

    • Anonymous

      Whats sad, is this is the most entertaining week in the FGC community ever. 

    • Anonymous

      Whats sad, is this is the most entertaining week in the FGC community ever. 

    • Anonymous

      Whats sad, is this is the most entertaining week in the FGC community ever. 

  • http://twitter.com/YoSHO2U JL (aka SAOTOME2U)

    Very good article.  Very good.   This really has been a week of things not being a good look for the FGC.  From questionable credibility, to the harassment issue.  Point is, if bad and inappropriate behavior is not addressed, only to be brushed off as if nothing, then it will continue to be there, fester and stink up the place.  Nothing wrong with a li’l fun, but there comes a point where respect, common sense and good judgment need to be in place.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=769835536 Stuart Hayden

    The FGC is a joke now and its the FGC’s fault for running with all the changes the community has gone through when they KNEW they were bad changes. 

    So, I have no pity. Let the FGC implode and kill itself off. Maybe then SFIV and all the other garbage released in the past 4 years will go away (this includes the players)

    • Anonymous

      FUCKING TRUTH!!!!. FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!. FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.  FUCKING TRUTH!!!!.

      Its funny how all these no names come out of no where ever sense sf4,
      and they think they the shit because they have sponsorship, and shit. i
      never saw any of these so called elites in umvc3 scrubs get out of pools mvc2. or these shit fighter 4 players winning a match in st,alpha series, etc..

      • http://www.facebook.com/call.me.mr.siddiqui Adeel Siddiqui

         Coming from a guy named srkturdman.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Token-Andrade/100003154512204 Joseph Token Andrade

         Maybe there hasn’t been any good fighting games outside of MVC2, 3S and Guilty Gear for what? Almost 10 years? Like the fighting community was there but it wasn’t as big as it is now.

      • Anonymous

         LOL, Everybody was a no name at one point, and everybody starts somewhere, numbnuts. It’s funny how you hate on new players like you weren’t one at some point.

        The only difference between the new sponsored players and you is that you don’t get out of pools in the new games either.

    • http://www.facebook.com/call.me.mr.siddiqui Adeel Siddiqui

       Sure dude, you can leave, stop posting on SRK and just mind your own damn buisness. People genuinely want to see this community grow, but fuckers like you have nothing nice to say and bitch bitch bitch. Lets see you do something about this problem. Oh wait, you are too busy sitting on your ass typing on a keyboard about asinine shit that you hate about the community. If it isn’t what you want get the hell out. Or try something to better the community by yourself.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=769835536 Stuart Hayden

        Despite what you might think, SRK is more than just a fighting game website. 
        I don’t have to go anywhere. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/call.me.mr.siddiqui Adeel Siddiqui

          I know it is more than a fighting game website, but if you actively hate on everything fighting game related that has been posted lately. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU COMMENT?! Seriously post what you want on the things that you like. Don’t waste your energy hating, waste your energy doing something productive.

          It’s easier to hate and I get that, but seriously man grow the fuck up and move on.

          • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

            Hate is productive.
            Hate something fiercely enough and it may change, but not always for the better.
            If we focus only on the positive, we sort of miss the forest for the trees; we actively ignore details that don’t conform to reality.

            Not all of us want to expend effort in making fighting games gain more legitimacy or players. Being “productive” is not in our vernacular, unless we directly benefit. Not everyone is here to inflate the egos of the community. Personally, I think they’re inflated enough.

            Some of us just like watching all the social dynamics at play, analyzing the key events and flashpoints, and sharing when we can’t get to sleep. It’s like watching an ant farm with multiple queens and tribes trying to kill each other, each with different ideas on how things should run.

          • http://twitter.com/DanCiTi Dan Citriniti

            Yes, but if we do not support the scene in a positive way and aid it in going forward in a healthy direction, it will die. I’m not saying it will ever 100% anything, and egos are not the things that need infalting. 

            What needs to be done is have a mind to say “that is wrong, it’s no good and that kind of shit needs to go”. I’m all for all the kinds of hype and pop-offs and trash talking, but there comes a point where it becomes inappropriate and offensive, so much so that it only drags us down. The thing is if you love fighting games, getting more people playing them can only help the genre as a whole be greater. The crude jokes with your buddies are fine until everyone stops laughing and gives you that look, or you try to pull that shit on someone’s ladyfriend. As well, the more players, the more variety in the games we have. I doubt Mike Z could have done Skullgirls, at least to the degree he is now 6 or so year ago. These companies have a bigger player base and get more money, and ultimately lead to better, richer games and ultimately more fun and exciting playing. 

            People need to just wake up and realize social cues and just learn how to act in general. Yes, sometimes the shit that Aris does is funny, like what he did with Mike Ross, but that is because Mike can take it. Even then it is not really okay. That level of rudeness is not okay(ESPECIALLY with non-close friends), and really is not integral to the scene at its core the way Aris says it is. We need to learn to pick our battles and understand what’s right and wrong with each other, besides that as inkblot said, the community is pretty fucking awesome right now. 

          • http://twitter.com/DanCiTi Dan Citriniti

            Yes, but if we do not support the scene in a positive way and aid it in going forward in a healthy direction, it will die. I’m not saying it will ever 100% anything, and egos are not the things that need infalting. 

            What needs to be done is have a mind to say “that is wrong, it’s no good and that kind of shit needs to go”. I’m all for all the kinds of hype and pop-offs and trash talking, but there comes a point where it becomes inappropriate and offensive, so much so that it only drags us down. The thing is if you love fighting games, getting more people playing them can only help the genre as a whole be greater. The crude jokes with your buddies are fine until everyone stops laughing and gives you that look, or you try to pull that shit on someone’s ladyfriend. As well, the more players, the more variety in the games we have. I doubt Mike Z could have done Skullgirls, at least to the degree he is now 6 or so year ago. These companies have a bigger player base and get more money, and ultimately lead to better, richer games and ultimately more fun and exciting playing. 

            People need to just wake up and realize social cues and just learn how to act in general. Yes, sometimes the shit that Aris does is funny, like what he did with Mike Ross, but that is because Mike can take it. Even then it is not really okay. That level of rudeness is not okay(ESPECIALLY with non-close friends), and really is not integral to the scene at its core the way Aris says it is. We need to learn to pick our battles and understand what’s right and wrong with each other, besides that as inkblot said, the community is pretty fucking awesome right now. 

          • http://twitter.com/Anawnnemus john doe

             This is the most selfish, ignorant post I’ve seen a while…

          • http://twitter.com/Anawnnemus john doe

             This is the most selfish, ignorant post I’ve seen a while…

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       Fuck the FGC.  All the FGC does is bitch and whine about how every new fighter sucks, how anything not made by Capcom sucks.  How MK9 is dead despite tons of people playing it and it being with MLG, how KoF is shit because “there’s no zoning like SF”, how DOA5 is “gonna be shit cuz its DOA and has counters”.  Then that fatass marn and friends claiming SFxTekken is “the best fighter ever, it’s better than GG.”  What a fucking joke lmfao  This community needs to die, then maybe fighting games can be about FUN again, and not a bunch of fat retarded ghetto trash screaming insults at people for playing shit they don’t like, and demanding every game be like SF or Marvel.

      • http://www.facebook.com/call.me.mr.siddiqui Adeel Siddiqui

        Dude seriously get a life. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/call.me.mr.siddiqui Adeel Siddiqui

        Dude seriously get a life. 

      • Anonymous

         So you wanna kill all the Tournaments, EVO and other things that FGC make? Yeah! lets just drop the FGC maybe Street Fighter game gonna have low sales so Capcom gonna drop the franchise, and maybe in 2020 they gonna Reboot the game

  • http://twitter.com/frrrrr_ Louis Lo

     http://www.twitlonger.com/show/g65iqn

    Aris’ statement on this matter

  • http://twitter.com/frrrrr_ Louis Lo

     http://www.twitlonger.com/show/g65iqn

    Aris’ statement on this matter

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=769835536 Stuart Hayden

      Whatever he said was probably true. He shouldn’t have to apologize for being honest. 

      • Anonymous

        Saying it was true without even knowing what he said? Good shit. 

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

         LOL get aris’ cock out of your mouth

      • Anonymous

        I give the man the benefit of the doubt, this is a guy who has nothing but passion and love for the games we play. That alone, together with his skill and experience, make him someone we should respect – regardless of whether we like him or not.

        • http://twitter.com/untestedmethods Eric Ernewein

           No, no, a thousand times no, this is why people aren’t taking the FGC seriously. This is why people think gamers are immature man-children walking around as entitled brats. People want to pass this off as “honesty” or “passion” no, its fucking stupid, its disgusting and it should be called out for what it is. People want honesty? Then lets be honest and take people to task for being terrible human beings.

      • Anonymous

        I give the man the benefit of the doubt, this is a guy who has nothing but passion and love for the games we play. That alone, together with his skill and experience, make him someone we should respect – regardless of whether we like him or not.

      • Anonymous

        He doesn’t have to apologize for being honest and he didn’t. He’s just sorry he isn’t allowed to sexually harass people because he believes that you can’t make great players without sexually harassing them.

      • Anonymous

        He doesn’t have to apologize for being honest and he didn’t. He’s just sorry he isn’t allowed to sexually harass people because he believes that you can’t make great players without sexually harassing them.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=769835536 Stuart Hayden

      Whatever he said was probably true. He shouldn’t have to apologize for being honest. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=769835536 Stuart Hayden

      Whatever he said was probably true. He shouldn’t have to apologize for being honest. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/shankar.tablada Shankar Tablada

    Awesome read Inkblot… I couldn’t have said it better. I have actually been playing catch up on Cross Assault since I missed most of it due to me working during the day and afternoon, but I’m glad you spoke on it. I just heard the conversation Aris and Jared had on the Tekken stream and they are both right to some extend. 

    Aris is wrong in not admitting he said some inappropriate things to Miranda but Jarred is also wrong for wanting to “sensor” the FGC. I believe one of the examples he used was at SCR when some one yelled “rape that bitch” when Phoenix was being played. I was the one who yelled that… not because I condone sexual violations of females dogs or anything to that effect, but because of pure hype to see my boy playing high level in front of my eyes. It’s the little bit of NYC that I had to bring to SoCal to help this Marvel community down here get hype!

    I’ve been experiencing this for many years now and this is truly what keeps me coming back to playing fighting games and attending events over and over… 
    It’s the beauty of the moment… it’s what Seth Killian in my new documentary describes as “electrons on the screen making us feel a certain way, and it’s amazing”… It’s my first “major” ran by Jason Wilson in Miami… it’s the very first time I saw Duc Do perfect my boy Johan at the first Orlando Domination… It’s me saying “Let’s go Justin” out loud and the guy next to me hearing me and yelling it even louder right before J made the bad choise to try and lame out Daigo at EVO 2004… it’s the very first time Sanford beat Justin in MvC2 at the brake in NJ at some random weekly tourney I decided to go to… It’s Bronson Tran talking mad shit to Jinmaster in Tekken 5 re: Nina… It’s Experiencing Tokido do the Akuma stance at SCR… the Duc vs Sanford mm in Marvel, its the face Watson and DSP made when Duc lost… It’s the Clock vs NEO showdown… It’s me running WNF every single week until 2am when Vanilla Marvel first came out… it’s seeing Fanatiq scrub it out on a pad every week at WNF :’D
    It’s a little doc called “Bang the Machine” that inspired me to go to film school and create my own film that would show the FGC thru my eyes……. it’s what the FGC its made of… I love this community and everything it has to offer, I would never trade it for anything!! 

    The FGC it’s amazing but not perfect… there’s always room for improvement.

    ~Shankar Tablada
    Filmmaker/Scrub gammer

  • http://www.facebook.com/shankar.tablada Shankar Tablada

    Awesome read Inkblot… I couldn’t have said it better. I have actually been playing catch up on Cross Assault since I missed most of it due to me working during the day and afternoon, but I’m glad you spoke on it. I just heard the conversation Aris and Jared had on the Tekken stream and they are both right to some extend. 

    Aris is wrong in not admitting he said some inappropriate things to Miranda but Jarred is also wrong for wanting to “sensor” the FGC. I believe one of the examples he used was at SCR when some one yelled “rape that bitch” when Phoenix was being played. I was the one who yelled that… not because I condone sexual violations of females dogs or anything to that effect, but because of pure hype to see my boy playing high level in front of my eyes. It’s the little bit of NYC that I had to bring to SoCal to help this Marvel community down here get hype!

    I’ve been experiencing this for many years now and this is truly what keeps me coming back to playing fighting games and attending events over and over… 
    It’s the beauty of the moment… it’s what Seth Killian in my new documentary describes as “electrons on the screen making us feel a certain way, and it’s amazing”… It’s my first “major” ran by Jason Wilson in Miami… it’s the very first time I saw Duc Do perfect my boy Johan at the first Orlando Domination… It’s me saying “Let’s go Justin” out loud and the guy next to me hearing me and yelling it even louder right before J made the bad choise to try and lame out Daigo at EVO 2004… it’s the very first time Sanford beat Justin in MvC2 at the brake in NJ at some random weekly tourney I decided to go to… It’s Bronson Tran talking mad shit to Jinmaster in Tekken 5 re: Nina… It’s Experiencing Tokido do the Akuma stance at SCR… the Duc vs Sanford mm in Marvel, its the face Watson and DSP made when Duc lost… It’s the Clock vs NEO showdown… It’s me running WNF every single week until 2am when Vanilla Marvel first came out… it’s seeing Fanatiq scrub it out on a pad every week at WNF :’D
    It’s a little doc called “Bang the Machine” that inspired me to go to film school and create my own film that would show the FGC thru my eyes……. it’s what the FGC its made of… I love this community and everything it has to offer, I would never trade it for anything!! 

    The FGC it’s amazing but not perfect… there’s always room for improvement.

    ~Shankar Tablada
    Filmmaker/Scrub gammer

  • http://www.facebook.com/shankar.tablada Shankar Tablada

    Awesome read Inkblot… I couldn’t have said it better. I have actually been playing catch up on Cross Assault since I missed most of it due to me working during the day and afternoon, but I’m glad you spoke on it. I just heard the conversation Aris and Jared had on the Tekken stream and they are both right to some extend. 

    Aris is wrong in not admitting he said some inappropriate things to Miranda but Jarred is also wrong for wanting to “sensor” the FGC. I believe one of the examples he used was at SCR when some one yelled “rape that bitch” when Phoenix was being played. I was the one who yelled that… not because I condone sexual violations of females dogs or anything to that effect, but because of pure hype to see my boy playing high level in front of my eyes. It’s the little bit of NYC that I had to bring to SoCal to help this Marvel community down here get hype!

    I’ve been experiencing this for many years now and this is truly what keeps me coming back to playing fighting games and attending events over and over… 
    It’s the beauty of the moment… it’s what Seth Killian in my new documentary describes as “electrons on the screen making us feel a certain way, and it’s amazing”… It’s my first “major” ran by Jason Wilson in Miami… it’s the very first time I saw Duc Do perfect my boy Johan at the first Orlando Domination… It’s me saying “Let’s go Justin” out loud and the guy next to me hearing me and yelling it even louder right before J made the bad choise to try and lame out Daigo at EVO 2004… it’s the very first time Sanford beat Justin in MvC2 at the brake in NJ at some random weekly tourney I decided to go to… It’s Bronson Tran talking mad shit to Jinmaster in Tekken 5 re: Nina… It’s Experiencing Tokido do the Akuma stance at SCR… the Duc vs Sanford mm in Marvel, its the face Watson and DSP made when Duc lost… It’s the Clock vs NEO showdown… It’s me running WNF every single week until 2am when Vanilla Marvel first came out… it’s seeing Fanatiq scrub it out on a pad every week at WNF :’D
    It’s a little doc called “Bang the Machine” that inspired me to go to film school and create my own film that would show the FGC thru my eyes……. it’s what the FGC its made of… I love this community and everything it has to offer, I would never trade it for anything!! 

    The FGC it’s amazing but not perfect… there’s always room for improvement.

    ~Shankar Tablada
    Filmmaker/Scrub gammer

  • http://www.facebook.com/shankar.tablada Shankar Tablada

    Awesome read Inkblot… I couldn’t have said it better. I have actually been playing catch up on Cross Assault since I missed most of it due to me working during the day and afternoon, but I’m glad you spoke on it. I just heard the conversation Aris and Jared had on the Tekken stream and they are both right to some extend. 

    Aris is wrong in not admitting he said some inappropriate things to Miranda but Jarred is also wrong for wanting to “sensor” the FGC. I believe one of the examples he used was at SCR when some one yelled “rape that bitch” when Phoenix was being played. I was the one who yelled that… not because I condone sexual violations of females dogs or anything to that effect, but because of pure hype to see my boy playing high level in front of my eyes. It’s the little bit of NYC that I had to bring to SoCal to help this Marvel community down here get hype!

    I’ve been experiencing this for many years now and this is truly what keeps me coming back to playing fighting games and attending events over and over… 
    It’s the beauty of the moment… it’s what Seth Killian in my new documentary describes as “electrons on the screen making us feel a certain way, and it’s amazing”… It’s my first “major” ran by Jason Wilson in Miami… it’s the very first time I saw Duc Do perfect my boy Johan at the first Orlando Domination… It’s me saying “Let’s go Justin” out loud and the guy next to me hearing me and yelling it even louder right before J made the bad choise to try and lame out Daigo at EVO 2004… it’s the very first time Sanford beat Justin in MvC2 at the brake in NJ at some random weekly tourney I decided to go to… It’s Bronson Tran talking mad shit to Jinmaster in Tekken 5 re: Nina… It’s Experiencing Tokido do the Akuma stance at SCR… the Duc vs Sanford mm in Marvel, its the face Watson and DSP made when Duc lost… It’s the Clock vs NEO showdown… It’s me running WNF every single week until 2am when Vanilla Marvel first came out… it’s seeing Fanatiq scrub it out on a pad every week at WNF :’D
    It’s a little doc called “Bang the Machine” that inspired me to go to film school and create my own film that would show the FGC thru my eyes……. it’s what the FGC its made of… I love this community and everything it has to offer, I would never trade it for anything!! 

    The FGC it’s amazing but not perfect… there’s always room for improvement.

    ~Shankar Tablada
    Filmmaker/Scrub gammer

    • Anonymous

      Imagine that you were watching Evo on your laptop in a park during family picnic day. Would it be appropriate for you to yell “Rape that bitch” then? Anything that is inappropriate in public, is inappropriate at Evo. There shouldn’t be any exceptions. The Evo now is no longer what it was years ago.

      You can say that this all grey area because of context but because the FGC has been using that excuse for so long, it has become too accustomed to accepting negative behaviours. In the end, we do whatever is the easy as opposed to what is right.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Walter-Thomas/100000923690574 Walter Thomas

        ”
        In the end, we do whatever is the easy as opposed to what is right.”

        That can also be said of over 90% of humanity in any given situation.

        Does the FGC need to grow up a bit? Hell Yes

        Is the FGC as mature as regular sports fans?  Ever been to pro/college/high school/middle school/pee wee sports event that has excited fans? Shit gets crazy, to sit back and act like the FGC is the only immature or offensive group in relation to the others I just mentioned is silly

        People need to accept that “HYPE” is a two sided coin, there will be people who will be able to get excited without being super offensive and then there will be those who can only get excited by yelling offensive shit. Its called being a fan at a live event, you want hushed rapt attention to the game and situation appropriate applause be a fan of tennis or golf.

        I don’t condone the negative behavior it should be called out for what it is when it does happen. But we have to accept that this is what happens at events when people express raw emotion.

      • http://www.facebook.com/shankar.tablada Shankar Tablada

        Then that family needs to have a sit down and explain why dark phoenix is over powered and why shes a bitch when she has 5 levels… and more importantly the need to rape her before she gets there! >_<

      • http://www.facebook.com/shankar.tablada Shankar Tablada

        Then that family needs to have a sit down and explain why dark phoenix is over powered and why shes a bitch when she has 5 levels… and more importantly the need to rape her before she gets there! >_<

  • http://www.facebook.com/shankar.tablada Shankar Tablada

    Awesome read Inkblot… I couldn’t have said it better. I have actually been playing catch up on Cross Assault since I missed most of it due to me working during the day and afternoon, but I’m glad you spoke on it. I just heard the conversation Aris and Jared had on the Tekken stream and they are both right to some extend. 

    Aris is wrong in not admitting he said some inappropriate things to Miranda but Jarred is also wrong for wanting to “sensor” the FGC. I believe one of the examples he used was at SCR when some one yelled “rape that bitch” when Phoenix was being played. I was the one who yelled that… not because I condone sexual violations of females dogs or anything to that effect, but because of pure hype to see my boy playing high level in front of my eyes. It’s the little bit of NYC that I had to bring to SoCal to help this Marvel community down here get hype!

    I’ve been experiencing this for many years now and this is truly what keeps me coming back to playing fighting games and attending events over and over… 
    It’s the beauty of the moment… it’s what Seth Killian in my new documentary describes as “electrons on the screen making us feel a certain way, and it’s amazing”… It’s my first “major” ran by Jason Wilson in Miami… it’s the very first time I saw Duc Do perfect my boy Johan at the first Orlando Domination… It’s me saying “Let’s go Justin” out loud and the guy next to me hearing me and yelling it even louder right before J made the bad choise to try and lame out Daigo at EVO 2004… it’s the very first time Sanford beat Justin in MvC2 at the brake in NJ at some random weekly tourney I decided to go to… It’s Bronson Tran talking mad shit to Jinmaster in Tekken 5 re: Nina… It’s Experiencing Tokido do the Akuma stance at SCR… the Duc vs Sanford mm in Marvel, its the face Watson and DSP made when Duc lost… It’s the Clock vs NEO showdown… It’s me running WNF every single week until 2am when Vanilla Marvel first came out… it’s seeing Fanatiq scrub it out on a pad every week at WNF :’D
    It’s a little doc called “Bang the Machine” that inspired me to go to film school and create my own film that would show the FGC thru my eyes……. it’s what the FGC its made of… I love this community and everything it has to offer, I would never trade it for anything!! 

    The FGC it’s amazing but not perfect… there’s always room for improvement.

    ~Shankar Tablada
    Filmmaker/Scrub gammer

  • Anonymous

    This is nothing but manufacturer drama. because todays personalities are boring and lame. real hype and drama died along with skillful games before shit fighter 4.

    just like sanford said “women and picking up these new games and beating men, that’s how bad these games are.”

    Good shit to Aris. Fuck the cunt. what a bunch of simps defending this hoe. bitch is only there in the fgc just like every
    other cunt for “Attention!”. Then try to play victim. i swear not only the
    games are pussyfid but the players are even more big vaginas.

    shits funny and lame , lol just like the gay ross and gay Go manufacturer nerdy beef drama.

    all this shit is so manufacturer, I didnt even watch the streams because there was truly no reason to, yet when the bs topics posted all over the place I never before hand how pathetic and worthless the actual topics were.

    have a good one.

    RIP real hype and drama
    19.. – 2005

    • Anonymous

       Shut up.

      • Anonymous

         your a mike fagg and jago fagg fanboy boy 2 , huh?

        • Anonymous

          trolololol

      • Anonymous

         your a mike fagg and jago fagg fanboy boy 2 , huh?

  • Mike G

    This is BS. Mike and Jago get exposed for being liars and Art gets crap for it? If they weren’t highly influencial players the FGC would have lamblasted them but now we’re going to give them a free pass? “It ain’t about playin, its about that paper”. Are you kidding me people? This is someone you want defining the FGC?

    Then people stick up for Aris and blame Miranda for being sexually harassed because ‘she didnt speak up enough about it’? And now he’s trying to back peddle and twist his words around.

    And now were getting all these lame ass touchy feely articles saying we should calm down. 

    I’m sorry but this ish is pathetic.

    • Anonymous

      truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      the fgc are fanboys. these dickriders probably has a
      picture of mike crap, jago crap, etc..on their wall. this type of mindset shows how
      faboyism/dickriders is now the face of the fgc. its over. dont takes
      this manufacturer lame BS seriously and it’s people.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       It’s over, the FGC is officially DEAD.  This shit keeps getting worse and worse, eventually Capcom is gonna cut their losses and let you fuckers go.  They care more about money and growing the scene, than catering to a bunch of neanderthal apes who are ruining their image.  Capcom most likely will go with MLG or a diff route and leave your asses behind.  can’t say I’d blame them.

    • Anonymous

       Word!

      Everyone who watched the Mike Ross vs Jago match could clearly see it was staged!
      5-0 my ass! Jago all of a sudden forgets how to block and tag out…sure!

  • Anonymous

    People care about this Big Brother shit? Really?

    • Anonymous

       Thousands care. Where have you been?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=745579039 Justt Bruce

        But millions don’t.

        • Anonymous

          Question was actually Does Anyone Care, but whatever. You like to reply to things in a 1-up manner because it makes you feel like you have some Reply Points Advantage.

          Congratulations.

        • Anonymous

          Question was actually Does Anyone Care, but whatever. You like to reply to things in a 1-up manner because it makes you feel like you have some Reply Points Advantage.

          Congratulations.

      • Anonymous

         I guess I been sleeping on this, but seeing how I first established contact just today…instantly appalled. Luckily the game looks like garbage anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Yan-Zhao/10516382 Yan Zhao

    Thank you Inklot for pointing out the main problem I have with the FGC: the blatantly bad/rude behavior a lot of (often minor people) exerts at tournament venues.

    Its all fine and dandy to be hype, have rivalries, shit talk, show pride for your coast and all that, but god forbid people would know better to not cross the line and stay decent as a human being.

  • http://twitter.com/Genobreakr DeVon

    Nobody is condoning what Mike and Jago did they were wrong to lie that we all except was the match real I think so 100%. What Most people are saying is Art is just as if not more wrong for streaming it after they said not, and when confronted he SWORE TO GOD he wasnt. Mike and Jago are wrong thats a definite but someone who they trusted basically lied to them for some extra views. He coulda cut the camera off for 15 minutes just saying 

    • Anonymous

      im sorry, im not getting the trust part? these dudes are complete strangers to 99.9% that are gamers like you and I. What exacting is this trust coming from? What are dudes trusting them in, other then a creepy,nerdy,fanboy kind of way?

      you are proving our points with the way the fgc being weak and pathetic.

    • Mike G

      “What Most people are saying is Art is just as if not more wrong for
      streaming it after they said not, and when confronted he SWORE TO GOD he
      wasnt.”

      That doesn’t mean anything. You dudes need to get this stop snitching mentality out your heads. I don’t care if Art had another motive for streaming the conversation, but I and really everybody who actually cares about this community should be glad that he did. The more of these fakes that get exposed and ousted the better the community will get.

      Unless you guys what to keep all this fakeness around then so be it.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

         The snitch mentality exists, because this community is full of ghetto trash that thinks life is like a rap video.  This shit is what happens when a bunch of blacks and wannabe black guys get the shit kicked out of them in highschool and get together as a group.

      • Anonymous

        People just want to be entertained whether it’s with fake rivalry or papparazi exposes. Mike, Jago and Art were just giving the people what they want.

    • Abe Kim

      People making this Jago/Mike thing a lot bigger than it really needs to be.  We’ve been TROLLED about their rivalry/hate.  Simple as that.

      Thinking the actual matches were actually fabricated is completely moronic.

      Friends will play against friends with a fierce competitive nature, especially if money, pride, and glory is at stake. 

      Countless of examples:

      1.  Pro SF players facing off… JWong, Combfiend, Ricky O, Floe, etc. 
      2.  NBA Playoffs/Games:  Kobe vs Lebron (Friends in RL) but don’t throw games when shit is at stake.

      If your butthurt about the rivalry and be had.  LOL!  Just find the humor in it all and move on.  Enjoy the countless
      new internet MEMES that arouse with it.  —ILLUMINATI, WWEsports, etc…

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Walter-Thomas/100000923690574 Walter Thomas

        you forgot #STAGED

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Walter-Thomas/100000923690574 Walter Thomas

        you forgot #STAGED

      • hyerty

        This trolling got them money. I doubt this will end anytime soon and copycats might appear

      • hyerty

        This trolling got them money. I doubt this will end anytime soon and copycats might appear

      • hyerty

        This trolling got them money. I doubt this will end anytime soon and copycats might appear

    • Abe Kim

      People making this Jago/Mike thing a lot bigger than it really needs to be.  We’ve been TROLLED about their rivalry/hate.  Simple as that.

      Thinking the actual matches were actually fabricated is completely moronic.

      Friends will play against friends with a fierce competitive nature, especially if money, pride, and glory is at stake. 

      Countless of examples:

      1.  Pro SF players facing off… JWong, Combfiend, Ricky O, Floe, etc. 
      2.  NBA Playoffs/Games:  Kobe vs Lebron (Friends in RL) but don’t throw games when shit is at stake.

      If your butthurt about the rivalry and be had.  LOL!  Just find the humor in it all and move on.  Enjoy the countless
      new internet MEMES that arouse with it.  —ILLUMINATI, WWEsports, etc…

    • Abe Kim

      People making this Jago/Mike thing a lot bigger than it really needs to be.  We’ve been TROLLED about their rivalry/hate.  Simple as that.

      Thinking the actual matches were actually fabricated is completely moronic.

      Friends will play against friends with a fierce competitive nature, especially if money, pride, and glory is at stake. 

      Countless of examples:

      1.  Pro SF players facing off… JWong, Combfiend, Ricky O, Floe, etc. 
      2.  NBA Playoffs/Games:  Kobe vs Lebron (Friends in RL) but don’t throw games when shit is at stake.

      If your butthurt about the rivalry and be had.  LOL!  Just find the humor in it all and move on.  Enjoy the countless
      new internet MEMES that arouse with it.  —ILLUMINATI, WWEsports, etc…

  • http://twitter.com/Genobreakr DeVon

    Nobody is condoning what Mike and Jago did they were wrong to lie that we all except was the match real I think so 100%. What Most people are saying is Art is just as if not more wrong for streaming it after they said not, and when confronted he SWORE TO GOD he wasnt. Mike and Jago are wrong thats a definite but someone who they trusted basically lied to them for some extra views. He coulda cut the camera off for 15 minutes just saying 

  • http://twitter.com/Genobreakr DeVon

    Strangers to us yes but among them selves they are friends Art broke the trust when they told him not to stream when they were getting in the car and he did anyway. They asked him againg and he swore he wasnt. Thats untrustworthy 

  • http://twitter.com/Genobreakr DeVon

    Strangers to us yes but among them selves they are friends Art broke the trust when they told him not to stream when they were getting in the car and he did anyway. They asked him againg and he swore he wasnt. Thats untrustworthy 

    • Anonymous

       in the real world….. sucks for them.. tough shit! thats they problem. serves them right. what goes around comes around.

      not our problem.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

         ”being real”

        Uh oh nigger speak sighted!

        • Anonymous

           thats my q to got to bed, because seems like simp / cunt worshiper/ captain save a hoe is coming to the rescue. see ya~~ ill let you know if i find your balls, have fun

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

             Lol typical nigger, he can’t understand why his behavior isn’t accepted in the civilized world, so he runs like a little bitch while slinging some lame insult.  It’s ok, you fuckers helped kill your little shitty community. 

            Oh and I know where my balls are, right in your mouth, I’d appreciate it if you’d get off them.  Fucking chimpanzee.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

             Lol typical nigger, he can’t understand why his behavior isn’t accepted in the civilized world, so he runs like a little bitch while slinging some lame insult.  It’s ok, you fuckers helped kill your little shitty community. 

            Oh and I know where my balls are, right in your mouth, I’d appreciate it if you’d get off them.  Fucking chimpanzee.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

             No, are you mad, nigger?  Mad because your shitty nigger ways are being exposed for everyone to see, and now the heat is on you?  In the real world, civilized people don’t condone this shit.  You can post about “being real” all you want, no one gives a shit.  Hopefully Miranda or someone else sues your asses, and you’ll see what else is “real”:

            a lawsuit.

          • Anonymous

            Please, get banned and disappear forever.

          • Anonymous

            Please, get banned and disappear forever.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

             Hey spectaa, I’ll say the same to the FGC.  Please get banned and disappear forever.  Go back to the arcades where you gorillas belong.

        • Anonymous

           thats my q to got to bed, because seems like simp / cunt worshiper/ captain save a hoe is coming to the rescue. see ya~~ ill let you know if i find your balls, have fun

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

         ”being real”

        Uh oh nigger speak sighted!

  • http://www.facebook.com/langdon.herrick Langdon Herrick

    This whole thing has made the FGC look like the creepy, smelly, loud uncle of the competitive gaming world.

    As someone who has been following the scene for years, it’s pretty disheartening.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       Well hey, truth hurts, don’t it?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       Well hey, truth hurts, don’t it?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

    This shit is what happens when you let a bunch of apes have a social gathering.  I’m just glad none of you sick fucks raped any females at these events yet.

    • Anonymous

      “ I’m just glad none of you sick fucks raped any females at these events yet.”

      I was going to contradict you but you precised “females”, so… ok.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

        Honestly judging by the shit I seen here, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these guys would rape a man, and claim “it’s not gay, cuz I was fuckin him, he gay not me!”.  Prison mentality.

    • Anonymous

      “ I’m just glad none of you sick fucks raped any females at these events yet.”

      I was going to contradict you but you precised “females”, so… ok.

  • Anonymous

    A large part of the scene needs to grow the fuck up, that’s all there is to it. You can have fun too without being a jerk off, it’s possible guys.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

    Also nice how you morons think some videos of EVO events somehow erases all the retardation your shitty community bathes in daily. 

    GET HYPE NIGGA RAPE AT EVO 2K12!

  • http://twitter.com/ShardZ ShardZ

    Thank you for this article, Inkblot.  This is exactly what needed to be said.
    I started out as a 3D FG player, so I’m linking the following video because seeing this classic match live was a huge part of of what sparked my interest in 2D FGs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_AnZ0k8zOs

  • Anonymous

    I don’t really mind fake rivalries as such – they’re fun, they add a bit more hype to the proceedings in the same way the obviously-nonsense rivalries in Boxing do. And when they’re fake, they get exposed like with Mike Ross and Jago. But when they’re real they’re obvious – we get nail-bitingly close matches and prolonged rivalry campaigns.

    I wouldn’t want some people to tone back the rivalry stuff just because they’re afraid of not being able to ‘prove’ its reality.

    • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

       [obviously-nonsense rivalries in Boxing]

      They’re one in the same.

    • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

       [obviously-nonsense rivalries in Boxing]

      They’re one in the same.

    • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

       [obviously-nonsense rivalries in Boxing]

      They’re one in the same.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

    LOL my comment calling some moron here a nigger gets deleted, but yall are cool with some fat fuck sexually harassing people.   Nice priorities ya stupid fucks lol

    no wonder your community is dyingXD

    • hyerty

      pretty sure the COD community sexually harasses people all the time(where you belong). go away troll

      • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

        At least COD players have the decency to keep their shit talk limited to messages on XBL. The FGC commits some of the same behavior, but in public. On internet game-promotion shows. For everyone to watch over and over again. And to transcribe at length.

        • hyerty

          What about that recent “scandal” with the SC2 guys. I’m just grouping you guys together because apparently you guys have decency. There are exceptions..one man(aris) doesn’t represent the FGC as a whole.

          And there are actually top female players who win majors and place high(Kayane, Chocoblanka.) I’m just saying all this because you sound new..or just playing the devil’s advocate.

    • hyerty

      pretty sure the COD community sexually harasses people all the time(where you belong). go away troll

    • hyerty

      pretty sure the COD community sexually harasses people all the time(where you belong). go away troll

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

    LOL my comment calling some moron here a nigger gets deleted, but yall are cool with some fat fuck sexually harassing people.   Nice priorities ya stupid fucks lol

    no wonder your community is dyingXD

  • Anonymous

    I guess people forget this was a reality show and in reality some people are assholes……..FGC never change…….A few mofoz want or dont wanna see there money there making from sponsors dry up, when the dirty stubburn grimmey mofos kept , playing when everyone left before, stay hardcore

  • http://nuses.myopenid.com/ Nuses

     I think what people fail to understand, including Aris and Sherry, is the difference between an Arcade/Tournament and the CrossAssault enviroments and dynamics.  This was not a chance meeting where a man makes some off colour remarks and she has the option of just walking away and laughing it off. 

    They were stuck with each other  for 7 long days, in a high pressure situation and he was her coach.  A coach is a position of power and  is supposed to mentor and help you get over your weaknesses.  But Aris knew that he had little to teach the Tekken side in terms of game play because this is an SF game.  So he comes up with “Strategies” to get a leg up on the competition.  One of his Strats is to hide as much from the stream as possible but because he has to stream something so he  focuses the cameras onto Miranda.  Predictably this prompts juvenile sexual comments from the anonymous stream chat that Aris happily participates in.

    I think this is why Miranda cracked.  She was trapped in a toxic, high pressure enviroment with a traitor of a  mentor and with little chance of winning the prize.

    • Anonymous

      But how is hiding content from the stream any sort of beneficial strategy? This would mean a whole lot more if Team SF was actually watching the stream or if the spectators had any sort of factor in the elimination process – neither of which was the case. 

  • Anonymous

    You have got to be stupid I mean really really stupid to not see that the Mike Ross vs Jago thing was fake. Jago hangs out with Combofiend on his trip to SCR and if you watched Jago’s videos, even Yipes calls him Nice Guy Jago.

    Its kinda sad to see that this rivalry was “exposed”. People love drama. Jago and Mike Ross was right in doing their thing. What the scene needs is rivalries, more drama. Reignite the EC vs WC rivalry. Its always fun rooting for your team and hating on the other, its what people get riled up. Now that this gets “exposed”, we’ll be back to the Cali circle jerking, hugging and cock sucking which is the norm past SF4 days. Now you have articles like this “bro lets just hug it out”. Fuck this shit.

    Know this, FGC is raw. The more you enforce “ESports” onto it the more it’ll oppose it. You want to be respected in the FGC? Earn your fucking stripes! Prove yourself, get good at the game and you’ll get respected. Way to go to cite Ricky and Kayo in the article, have you met anyone in the FGC shit on Ricky? Everyone knows he’s gay, but he is a respected gay because he’s fucking good at this game!!

    • Anonymous

      It is no where near over!  People have an opinion with Art, so why not have Mike Ross/ FC Jago vs. Art? And call it ruining there cash flow arc.  Trust me you can find plenty of  story arcs off this week alone and keep it going for a long ass time!

    • http://twitter.com/WasiKaBooM WasiKaBooM

      “Everyone knows he’s gay, but he is a respected gay because he’s fucking good at this game!!”

      Wow …

    • http://twitter.com/WasiKaBooM WasiKaBooM

      “Everyone knows he’s gay, but he is a respected gay because he’s fucking good at this game!!”

      Wow …

    • http://twitter.com/WasiKaBooM WasiKaBooM

      “Everyone knows he’s gay, but he is a respected gay because he’s fucking good at this game!!”

      Wow …

    • http://twitter.com/WasiKaBooM WasiKaBooM

      “Everyone knows he’s gay, but he is a respected gay because he’s fucking good at this game!!”

      Wow …

    • http://twitter.com/WasiKaBooM WasiKaBooM

      “Everyone knows he’s gay, but he is a respected gay because he’s fucking good at this game!!”

      Wow …

  • Anonymous

    You have got to be stupid I mean really really stupid to not see that the Mike Ross vs Jago thing was fake. Jago hangs out with Combofiend on his trip to SCR and if you watched Jago’s videos, even Yipes calls him Nice Guy Jago.

    Its kinda sad to see that this rivalry was “exposed”. People love drama. Jago and Mike Ross was right in doing their thing. What the scene needs is rivalries, more drama. Reignite the EC vs WC rivalry. Its always fun rooting for your team and hating on the other, its what people get riled up. Now that this gets “exposed”, we’ll be back to the Cali circle jerking, hugging and cock sucking which is the norm past SF4 days. Now you have articles like this “bro lets just hug it out”. Fuck this shit.

    Know this, FGC is raw. The more you enforce “ESports” onto it the more it’ll oppose it. You want to be respected in the FGC? Earn your fucking stripes! Prove yourself, get good at the game and you’ll get respected. Way to go to cite Ricky and Kayo in the article, have you met anyone in the FGC shit on Ricky? Everyone knows he’s gay, but he is a respected gay because he’s fucking good at this game!!

  • Alexander Smith

    Thanks, inkblot.  I agree with your sentiment, and find found the article to be very refreshing.  I really hope the community will take note, learn from this week, improve overall, and stay focused on what’s really important.

  • Tyler Spahr

    What Mike and Jago were doing was trying to get attention for themselves. It worked. Now it’s over thanks to Art. w/e who cares. Play the game. As for Aris and SY thats all on him. I watched the stream, and he was relentlessly inappropriate. That has NOTHING to do with gaming, that has to do with him being an inappropriate sleazeball which he is and always has been, this isn’t like some NEW information or anything. However he chose to continue on with bullshit on a streamed reality show with a chick who wasn’t cool with it. Girls in the FGC tend to have thick skins, but just because they “can take it” doesn’t make it “OK” to do it by proxy. It just means they can take it, your still being an inconsiderate douchebag. I’m not saying the FGC needs to be clean, but there is a line, and anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows what those lines are and shouldn’t need to be told. What needs to happen is people who Do have the common sense to know need to step forward and have some balls enough to say hey dude, that’s fucked up. Knock it off.

    • http://twitter.com/NIloklives NIlok

      In no way am I saying this to defend Aris, but some people really don’t know where those lines are and need someone to tell them.  There are such things as learning disabilities even on a social level.  Aris absolutely went too far, but i think too many people are way too quick to crucify him.  He’s not defending his actions.  It would be one thing if he was telling everyone to go to hell and defend what he did, but he’s not.  He’s saying he’s in the wrong and if he does learn from this, there’s no reason to go on about it.  I can’t help but think there’s some reverse sexism at play here too.

      LIke if it were a guy who felt like Aris was harassing him, would people have rushed to his defense like this or would we have almost unanimously attacked the man for being overly sensitive and been telling Aris not to sweat it?

      On a related note, Aris’ comment about the FGC and crude, off color behavior was completely off base…but think about it another way.  Aris has been in the FGC for ages.  To him this community is like his second home.  You don’t go into someone’s home and tell them what’s ok and not ok to say.  I think that was more what he was trying to convey and his abrasive, hard exterior just expressed it in a way that really didn’t reflect the sentiment.  I’m not siding with him, but I think people are way too polarized on this.

      In any case, the article was a good read and ir definitely lifted my spirits after the events of this past week.

      • Anonymous

        What someone does in his own home is his business but what someone does on stream with tens of thousand of people watching is everyone’s business.

        And based on his latest statement, he is defending his actions and his statement. The only thing he is sorry for is that he said “sexual harassment” instead of “mild hostilities”.

        http://www.twitlonger.com/show/g65iqn

        I do believe that he means well but I don’t think he understands that his methods are wrong.

    • http://twitter.com/NIloklives NIlok

      In no way am I saying this to defend Aris, but some people really don’t know where those lines are and need someone to tell them.  There are such things as learning disabilities even on a social level.  Aris absolutely went too far, but i think too many people are way too quick to crucify him.  He’s not defending his actions.  It would be one thing if he was telling everyone to go to hell and defend what he did, but he’s not.  He’s saying he’s in the wrong and if he does learn from this, there’s no reason to go on about it.  I can’t help but think there’s some reverse sexism at play here too.

      LIke if it were a guy who felt like Aris was harassing him, would people have rushed to his defense like this or would we have almost unanimously attacked the man for being overly sensitive and been telling Aris not to sweat it?

      On a related note, Aris’ comment about the FGC and crude, off color behavior was completely off base…but think about it another way.  Aris has been in the FGC for ages.  To him this community is like his second home.  You don’t go into someone’s home and tell them what’s ok and not ok to say.  I think that was more what he was trying to convey and his abrasive, hard exterior just expressed it in a way that really didn’t reflect the sentiment.  I’m not siding with him, but I think people are way too polarized on this.

      In any case, the article was a good read and ir definitely lifted my spirits after the events of this past week.

    • http://twitter.com/NIloklives NIlok

      In no way am I saying this to defend Aris, but some people really don’t know where those lines are and need someone to tell them.  There are such things as learning disabilities even on a social level.  Aris absolutely went too far, but i think too many people are way too quick to crucify him.  He’s not defending his actions.  It would be one thing if he was telling everyone to go to hell and defend what he did, but he’s not.  He’s saying he’s in the wrong and if he does learn from this, there’s no reason to go on about it.  I can’t help but think there’s some reverse sexism at play here too.

      LIke if it were a guy who felt like Aris was harassing him, would people have rushed to his defense like this or would we have almost unanimously attacked the man for being overly sensitive and been telling Aris not to sweat it?

      On a related note, Aris’ comment about the FGC and crude, off color behavior was completely off base…but think about it another way.  Aris has been in the FGC for ages.  To him this community is like his second home.  You don’t go into someone’s home and tell them what’s ok and not ok to say.  I think that was more what he was trying to convey and his abrasive, hard exterior just expressed it in a way that really didn’t reflect the sentiment.  I’m not siding with him, but I think people are way too polarized on this.

      In any case, the article was a good read and ir definitely lifted my spirits after the events of this past week.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=745579039 Justt Bruce

      They dont need anymore attention and they certainly do NOT need more money. 

  • Tyler Spahr

    What Mike and Jago were doing was trying to get attention for themselves. It worked. Now it’s over thanks to Art. w/e who cares. Play the game. As for Aris and SY thats all on him. I watched the stream, and he was relentlessly inappropriate. That has NOTHING to do with gaming, that has to do with him being an inappropriate sleazeball which he is and always has been, this isn’t like some NEW information or anything. However he chose to continue on with bullshit on a streamed reality show with a chick who wasn’t cool with it. Girls in the FGC tend to have thick skins, but just because they “can take it” doesn’t make it “OK” to do it by proxy. It just means they can take it, your still being an inconsiderate douchebag. I’m not saying the FGC needs to be clean, but there is a line, and anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows what those lines are and shouldn’t need to be told. What needs to happen is people who Do have the common sense to know need to step forward and have some balls enough to say hey dude, that’s fucked up. Knock it off.

  • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

    ["No drama.  No popoffs."]
    And EVO is not Southern Hills Golfland. It’s not Chinatown Fair. It’s not the Cyberstation or Aladdin’s Castle arcade where that fat kid threatened to beat the snot out of you if you didn’t give him your quarters. Such a comparison is like noting the similarities between a hockey game and golf. The drama is there. Perched up high while running an event, the drama seems minute. But it’s there in the trenches. You just have to stand at the edge and listen for a moment. You’ll hear both the good and the bad. Own up to both the good and the bad. Own up, or ignore it and live in an insulated bubble.

    The fighting game community is becoming more and more like “professional wrestling”. No joke. It may seem funny at first thought, but ask yourselves this:

    What brings in more viewers these days, professional wrestling or mixed martial arts?
    An extended drama show like a soap opera, or serious competition?
    A showcase of skill and strategy, or a showcase of egos and paper-thin personalities?
    Where does the fighting game community, as a whole and not just the community organizers and others wanting to make a quick buck, want to be?
    Could how participants act have an effect on growth of this pastime? What would the situations noted in the article look like to someone on the outside?

    Does the drama help fighting games grow, or does it stunt its growth?

    ["Just a few thousand or so players from all walks of life who share the same passion."]
    Winning? Playing video games? Putting quarters in machines? Camaraderie? Seeing the dying remnants of a time long past, and how it has changed in order to survive? Not everyone who attends EVO or other tournaments has the same objective in mind just as they don’t share the same skill level. Most participants know very well that their chance of making it to the top and slim to none. They know they haven’t put as much time as they could have and can’t play at the best of their ability. They have no delusions to grandeur when it comes to the competition. They are bait for the sharks, speed bumps for the high rollers, and they know it. But somehow they enjoy themselves. “Playing to win” is becoming “playing with the idea of winning”. Personally, I don’t play to win. Not enough time to devote just to practice. I’m realistic about it; anyone who claims they play to win and occasionally eat or sleep something other than the game is full of shit. I know I don’t have that dedication. Instead I play for that little shot of adrenaline that takes place during the 99- or 60-second rounds, the rare occurrence of outsmarting another human being, or the small lesson that can’t be carried over to anything else but that specific video game. Win or lose, as long as get that fix, I’m good.

    We don’t all share the same goal, because we are not all the same person.
    In fact, the only thing common between everyone is that they happen to enjoy fighting games… what a concept…

    ["Play to win."]
    And use every dirty trick you can get away with to win. Psychological warfare. Harassment. That’s what it means to “win at all costs”. “Do whatever it takes to win,” is how the saying goes. The mentality that grew from the competition in sports and the old arcades refused to grow up with the times. All of us got older, but our heads were stuck in 1995; and some people are still stuck in that place, still mentally 16-year-olds with chips on our shoulders and something to prove.

    “Playing to win” doesn’t start upon entry in a tournament. It’s a habit; it starts long before and continues up until and long after a competition.

    If the fighting game competitions are to become more professional, the competitors need to act more professional. Not just a handful. All of them. One bad apple…

    ["It does not define us."]
    The fighting game community is in PR repair/reputation restoration mode right now. When something bad happens, apologetic members are quick to point out the good to counteract the bad. 1 – 1 = 0. There are just as many positives as negatives. Groups are defined by their loudest and most noticeable units. Even when Players A through Y are respectful and mild-mannered, if Player Z was the biggest douchbag on planet Earth, anyone who is not closely acquainted with those players would perceive all Players (A-Z) as big douchbags.

    We are who we truly are when we are not out and about in public, streamed across the planet for thousands of viewers. How regular members conduct themselves and how the most notable and noticeable members (leaders) conduct themselves all, cumulatively, define who a community is and what to expect of them. One dirtbag in a crowd of saints makes the who bunch look a little dirtier. Keep the arcade attitude in the arcades.

    If you don’t like how one batch defines the rest, own up and take care of it. Get the house in order. Stop throwing each other under the bus and dumping all the blame on specific people then ostracizing them from the “community” at large, but do have the balls to call out bullshit behavior. They’re part of the “community”, being a dick doesn’t cut ties instantly.

    The hard part will be determining what standard of behavior to follow.

  • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

    ["No drama.  No popoffs."]
    And EVO is not Southern Hills Golfland. It’s not Chinatown Fair. It’s not the Cyberstation or Aladdin’s Castle arcade where that fat kid threatened to beat the snot out of you if you didn’t give him your quarters. Such a comparison is like noting the similarities between a hockey game and golf. The drama is there. Perched up high while running an event, the drama seems minute. But it’s there in the trenches. You just have to stand at the edge and listen for a moment. You’ll hear both the good and the bad. Own up to both the good and the bad. Own up, or ignore it and live in an insulated bubble.

    The fighting game community is becoming more and more like “professional wrestling”. No joke. It may seem funny at first thought, but ask yourselves this:

    What brings in more viewers these days, professional wrestling or mixed martial arts?
    An extended drama show like a soap opera, or serious competition?
    A showcase of skill and strategy, or a showcase of egos and paper-thin personalities?
    Where does the fighting game community, as a whole and not just the community organizers and others wanting to make a quick buck, want to be?
    Could how participants act have an effect on growth of this pastime? What would the situations noted in the article look like to someone on the outside?

    Does the drama help fighting games grow, or does it stunt its growth?

    ["Just a few thousand or so players from all walks of life who share the same passion."]
    Winning? Playing video games? Putting quarters in machines? Camaraderie? Seeing the dying remnants of a time long past, and how it has changed in order to survive? Not everyone who attends EVO or other tournaments has the same objective in mind just as they don’t share the same skill level. Most participants know very well that their chance of making it to the top and slim to none. They know they haven’t put as much time as they could have and can’t play at the best of their ability. They have no delusions to grandeur when it comes to the competition. They are bait for the sharks, speed bumps for the high rollers, and they know it. But somehow they enjoy themselves. “Playing to win” is becoming “playing with the idea of winning”. Personally, I don’t play to win. Not enough time to devote just to practice. I’m realistic about it; anyone who claims they play to win and occasionally eat or sleep something other than the game is full of shit. I know I don’t have that dedication. Instead I play for that little shot of adrenaline that takes place during the 99- or 60-second rounds, the rare occurrence of outsmarting another human being, or the small lesson that can’t be carried over to anything else but that specific video game. Win or lose, as long as get that fix, I’m good.

    We don’t all share the same goal, because we are not all the same person.
    In fact, the only thing common between everyone is that they happen to enjoy fighting games… what a concept…

    ["Play to win."]
    And use every dirty trick you can get away with to win. Psychological warfare. Harassment. That’s what it means to “win at all costs”. “Do whatever it takes to win,” is how the saying goes. The mentality that grew from the competition in sports and the old arcades refused to grow up with the times. All of us got older, but our heads were stuck in 1995; and some people are still stuck in that place, still mentally 16-year-olds with chips on our shoulders and something to prove.

    “Playing to win” doesn’t start upon entry in a tournament. It’s a habit; it starts long before and continues up until and long after a competition.

    If the fighting game competitions are to become more professional, the competitors need to act more professional. Not just a handful. All of them. One bad apple…

    ["It does not define us."]
    The fighting game community is in PR repair/reputation restoration mode right now. When something bad happens, apologetic members are quick to point out the good to counteract the bad. 1 – 1 = 0. There are just as many positives as negatives. Groups are defined by their loudest and most noticeable units. Even when Players A through Y are respectful and mild-mannered, if Player Z was the biggest douchbag on planet Earth, anyone who is not closely acquainted with those players would perceive all Players (A-Z) as big douchbags.

    We are who we truly are when we are not out and about in public, streamed across the planet for thousands of viewers. How regular members conduct themselves and how the most notable and noticeable members (leaders) conduct themselves all, cumulatively, define who a community is and what to expect of them. One dirtbag in a crowd of saints makes the who bunch look a little dirtier. Keep the arcade attitude in the arcades.

    If you don’t like how one batch defines the rest, own up and take care of it. Get the house in order. Stop throwing each other under the bus and dumping all the blame on specific people then ostracizing them from the “community” at large, but do have the balls to call out bullshit behavior. They’re part of the “community”, being a dick doesn’t cut ties instantly.

    The hard part will be determining what standard of behavior to follow.

    • Louis Lam

      ["Play to win."]
      And use every dirty trick you can get away with to win. Psychological warfare. Harassment. That’s what it means to “win at all costs”. 
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  

  • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

    ["No drama.  No popoffs."]
    And EVO is not Southern Hills Golfland. It’s not Chinatown Fair. It’s not the Cyberstation or Aladdin’s Castle arcade where that fat kid threatened to beat the snot out of you if you didn’t give him your quarters. Such a comparison is like noting the similarities between a hockey game and golf. The drama is there. Perched up high while running an event, the drama seems minute. But it’s there in the trenches. You just have to stand at the edge and listen for a moment. You’ll hear both the good and the bad. Own up to both the good and the bad. Own up, or ignore it and live in an insulated bubble.

    The fighting game community is becoming more and more like “professional wrestling”. No joke. It may seem funny at first thought, but ask yourselves this:

    What brings in more viewers these days, professional wrestling or mixed martial arts?
    An extended drama show like a soap opera, or serious competition?
    A showcase of skill and strategy, or a showcase of egos and paper-thin personalities?
    Where does the fighting game community, as a whole and not just the community organizers and others wanting to make a quick buck, want to be?
    Could how participants act have an effect on growth of this pastime? What would the situations noted in the article look like to someone on the outside?

    Does the drama help fighting games grow, or does it stunt its growth?

    ["Just a few thousand or so players from all walks of life who share the same passion."]
    Winning? Playing video games? Putting quarters in machines? Camaraderie? Seeing the dying remnants of a time long past, and how it has changed in order to survive? Not everyone who attends EVO or other tournaments has the same objective in mind just as they don’t share the same skill level. Most participants know very well that their chance of making it to the top and slim to none. They know they haven’t put as much time as they could have and can’t play at the best of their ability. They have no delusions to grandeur when it comes to the competition. They are bait for the sharks, speed bumps for the high rollers, and they know it. But somehow they enjoy themselves. “Playing to win” is becoming “playing with the idea of winning”. Personally, I don’t play to win. Not enough time to devote just to practice. I’m realistic about it; anyone who claims they play to win and occasionally eat or sleep something other than the game is full of shit. I know I don’t have that dedication. Instead I play for that little shot of adrenaline that takes place during the 99- or 60-second rounds, the rare occurrence of outsmarting another human being, or the small lesson that can’t be carried over to anything else but that specific video game. Win or lose, as long as get that fix, I’m good.

    We don’t all share the same goal, because we are not all the same person.
    In fact, the only thing common between everyone is that they happen to enjoy fighting games… what a concept…

    ["Play to win."]
    And use every dirty trick you can get away with to win. Psychological warfare. Harassment. That’s what it means to “win at all costs”. “Do whatever it takes to win,” is how the saying goes. The mentality that grew from the competition in sports and the old arcades refused to grow up with the times. All of us got older, but our heads were stuck in 1995; and some people are still stuck in that place, still mentally 16-year-olds with chips on our shoulders and something to prove.

    “Playing to win” doesn’t start upon entry in a tournament. It’s a habit; it starts long before and continues up until and long after a competition.

    If the fighting game competitions are to become more professional, the competitors need to act more professional. Not just a handful. All of them. One bad apple…

    ["It does not define us."]
    The fighting game community is in PR repair/reputation restoration mode right now. When something bad happens, apologetic members are quick to point out the good to counteract the bad. 1 – 1 = 0. There are just as many positives as negatives. Groups are defined by their loudest and most noticeable units. Even when Players A through Y are respectful and mild-mannered, if Player Z was the biggest douchbag on planet Earth, anyone who is not closely acquainted with those players would perceive all Players (A-Z) as big douchbags.

    We are who we truly are when we are not out and about in public, streamed across the planet for thousands of viewers. How regular members conduct themselves and how the most notable and noticeable members (leaders) conduct themselves all, cumulatively, define who a community is and what to expect of them. One dirtbag in a crowd of saints makes the who bunch look a little dirtier. Keep the arcade attitude in the arcades.

    If you don’t like how one batch defines the rest, own up and take care of it. Get the house in order. Stop throwing each other under the bus and dumping all the blame on specific people then ostracizing them from the “community” at large, but do have the balls to call out bullshit behavior. They’re part of the “community”, being a dick doesn’t cut ties instantly.

    The hard part will be determining what standard of behavior to follow.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously this shit needs to stop. This was an isolated incident between miranda and Aris and as far as I know. Miranda said capcom handled it well. So why the fuck are people resurfacing the issue and making it bigger than it is?

    Wtf is this tabloid news shit, why are these “streamers” who demand respect as a community and as a player go around streaming this drama in the first place?

    All everyone is doing is blowing this shit way out of proportion and glorifying the problem at the expense of miranda, just to gain popularity and fans. Selfish inconsiderate douche bags.

    This is why I don’t really join public events within the FGC because you guys are all childish name calling Elitists. Then you wonder why nobody new wants to try n get involved. They want to steer clear of this nonsense.

    Real, Fucking, Talk.

    Grow the fuck up, this isn’t 1991 anymore, you’re not 11 years old.

    Respect the player, Respect the game, otherwise the FGC aint going nowhere.

    SRK thinks this is gonna stop the issue, ya, doubt it, it’s going to make more people talk about for an even longer time.

    Go ahead, prolong the issue you idiots.

    • Anonymous

       its all for hits on there sites for royalty checks from twitch or youtube or yadda yadda yadda……..all trying to get the redbull add money to pay there rent off other peoples nuts..

  • Anonymous

    Seriously this shit needs to stop. This was an isolated incident between miranda and Aris and as far as I know. Miranda said capcom handled it well. So why the fuck are people resurfacing the issue and making it bigger than it is?

    Wtf is this tabloid news shit, why are these “streamers” who demand respect as a community and as a player go around streaming this drama in the first place?

    All everyone is doing is blowing this shit way out of proportion and glorifying the problem at the expense of miranda, just to gain popularity and fans. Selfish inconsiderate douche bags.

    This is why I don’t really join public events within the FGC because you guys are all childish name calling Elitists. Then you wonder why nobody new wants to try n get involved. They want to steer clear of this nonsense.

    Real, Fucking, Talk.

    Grow the fuck up, this isn’t 1991 anymore, you’re not 11 years old.

    Respect the player, Respect the game, otherwise the FGC aint going nowhere.

    SRK thinks this is gonna stop the issue, ya, doubt it, it’s going to make more people talk about for an even longer time.

    Go ahead, prolong the issue you idiots.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously this shit needs to stop. This was an isolated incident between miranda and Aris and as far as I know. Miranda said capcom handled it well. So why the fuck are people resurfacing the issue and making it bigger than it is?

    Wtf is this tabloid news shit, why are these “streamers” who demand respect as a community and as a player go around streaming this drama in the first place?

    All everyone is doing is blowing this shit way out of proportion and glorifying the problem at the expense of miranda, just to gain popularity and fans. Selfish inconsiderate douche bags.

    This is why I don’t really join public events within the FGC because you guys are all childish name calling Elitists. Then you wonder why nobody new wants to try n get involved. They want to steer clear of this nonsense.

    Real, Fucking, Talk.

    Grow the fuck up, this isn’t 1991 anymore, you’re not 11 years old.

    Respect the player, Respect the game, otherwise the FGC aint going nowhere.

    SRK thinks this is gonna stop the issue, ya, doubt it, it’s going to make more people talk about for an even longer time.

    Go ahead, prolong the issue you idiots.

  • Anonymous

    Ya, it’s all about the money. And that’s why people are acting the way they are, they want to keep their little tight knit group on top by discouraging other people to get into the scene,

    We need that new blood, we need those fresh faces, not these so called Top Players who just take advantage of drama and try to act like they aren’t capitalizing on someone elses misfortune.

  • Anonymous

    Ya, it’s all about the money. And that’s why people are acting the way they are, they want to keep their little tight knit group on top by discouraging other people to get into the scene,

    We need that new blood, we need those fresh faces, not these so called Top Players who just take advantage of drama and try to act like they aren’t capitalizing on someone elses misfortune.

  • Anonymous

    While what he said about the people we look up to in the community is largely untrue – the opinions of the usual internet fanboys on fighting games tends to be consistent with what he says. 

    Anonymity gives people the right to dick around too much – its annoying and childish. And as much as I’d like to ignore these people as much as possible, its impossible to, because they like the sound of their own voices all over the net.

    It makes me glad that my friends (who don’t trawl online as much as i do, but still have no less passion for the fighting games we play) are safe from idiots like these. 

    They can lambast their gospel of “fighting game community is ruined” all they want. Truth is, maybe we can all just sit down and play some rounds with each other hand have fun – and stop thinking so big all the time.

  • Anonymous

    While what he said about the people we look up to in the community is largely untrue – the opinions of the usual internet fanboys on fighting games tends to be consistent with what he says. 

    Anonymity gives people the right to dick around too much – its annoying and childish. And as much as I’d like to ignore these people as much as possible, its impossible to, because they like the sound of their own voices all over the net.

    It makes me glad that my friends (who don’t trawl online as much as i do, but still have no less passion for the fighting games we play) are safe from idiots like these. 

    They can lambast their gospel of “fighting game community is ruined” all they want. Truth is, maybe we can all just sit down and play some rounds with each other hand have fun – and stop thinking so big all the time.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for writing this. 

    The big problem with the whole Aris/Miranda debacle is that it’s now being used to misrepresent the fighting game community as a whole. This is funny because the people I’ve met tend to be some of the friendliest and most accepting folks around.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       LOL misrepresent you guys how?  By exposing you as a bunch of barbaric potential rapists?

      ps erasing my posts won’t make this go away inkblot, you can’t erase all the articles online, and the people discussing this ALL OVER THE INTERNET

      • hyerty

        there is a flag button. It can be used by anyone.

    • Anonymous

      “The most accepting and friendliest folks around.”

      That may be the case for you, but a lot of people have run into this kind of childish behavior. You will certainly meet a lot of friendly and accepting people in any group. However, the bad manners that exist in so much of the community, be it sexism, general bigotry, “hype”, insults, etc are way too abundant.When did it become acceptable to not treat people with respect? 

      In any other competition, if you treat somebody disrespectfully, you can be disqualified (from that competition and future ones). If the desire is to keep the fighting game scene “raw” and “uncensored” and teach that this is how you treat other human beings, then that’s fine. At some point, the FGC has to stop allowing itself to be controlled by the immature rules of conduct that they have come to embrace.I can see why the “stream monsters” want the scene to remain the way it is. I don’t see why the more experienced players want to keep the man-child attitude around.

  • Anonymous

    It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt. Although, that’s when the blame game starts. 

    Anyway, if you think the video shows everything about what the FGC is, you got blinders on. The stream, love it or hate it, is a huge part of what the scene now and if you would make a similar video about it, it’ll be even more soul crushing than all the controversy that happened this past few days. Sadly, some of it has leaked into real life.

    The “hard candy shell” is exactly what the FGC is proud of and fighting to keep. It’s the thing that is constantly brought up by member of the FGC itself to define itself. If you want to be defined by all the good you’ve done, take a stand and stop allowing contradictory behavior because they are “family”.

    Also, the US fighting game scene has more about the hype than the playing game. This should be obvious. It’s the reason why so many people who don’t play the game are interested in it. A scene that’s solely about playing the game would be more like Japan. For most people, this is the only “basics” that they know.

    Mike Ross and Jago didn’t need to generate the hype but people wanted to see a good old rivalry which is missing these days. It was obvious that the rivalry is fake if you picked up the cues but people wanted to believe that there is a rivalry going on even if it was a really crappy rivalry. The truth is merely what you believe in after all.

    The way I see it, the FGC needs to figure out the difference between pride and arrogance. It also needs to figure out if pride is more important that the bridges it’s burning.

  • D Major

    A few simple points.

    1) Aris is a creep (not as a human his aura). He’s always been very bizarre and weird. The producer is to be held accountable for the decision to have him as a coach.  It was a terrible decision and clearly done for controversy which they GOT. Unfortunately they got it at the expense of a thin skinned female who hammed things up a bit.

    2) Arturo Sanchez is a sneaky, manipulating, two-face. He lied to people who accepted him into their circle as friends only to have that trust betrayed. Regardless of the circumstance Arturo Sanchez is a rat fink snitch. If he was so concerned about it, he should taken a stance on it like a man, instead of playing undercover cop. No friend should do that to another when nothing illegal is going on. 

    3) The FGC since the internet has turned into this whiny weak overreacting community.  Mike Ross and Jago hammed up beef between themselves and their show and Capcom joined in on the fun? SO? It worked, it was funny and fun. Does it deserve the reaction?  Does it deserve Arturo “Donnie Brasco” Sanchez undercover reporting for Bitch Ass Nightly News?  NO.

    In general a lot of you kids need to go outside and get a breath of fresh air. I come from a time where people used to punch people in the face for throwing too much or spamming safe moves at arcades. A  time where side betting made neighborhood rivalries that much more crazy. None of these people were remotely pro.  This stuff is today, is LIGHT.  TAKE IT EASY. It’s really not that serious.

  • D Major

    A few simple points.

    1) Aris is a creep (not as a human his aura). He’s always been very bizarre and weird. The producer is to be held accountable for the decision to have him as a coach.  It was a terrible decision and clearly done for controversy which they GOT. Unfortunately they got it at the expense of a thin skinned female who hammed things up a bit.

    2) Arturo Sanchez is a sneaky, manipulating, two-face. He lied to people who accepted him into their circle as friends only to have that trust betrayed. Regardless of the circumstance Arturo Sanchez is a rat fink snitch. If he was so concerned about it, he should taken a stance on it like a man, instead of playing undercover cop. No friend should do that to another when nothing illegal is going on. 

    3) The FGC since the internet has turned into this whiny weak overreacting community.  Mike Ross and Jago hammed up beef between themselves and their show and Capcom joined in on the fun? SO? It worked, it was funny and fun. Does it deserve the reaction?  Does it deserve Arturo “Donnie Brasco” Sanchez undercover reporting for Bitch Ass Nightly News?  NO.

    In general a lot of you kids need to go outside and get a breath of fresh air. I come from a time where people used to punch people in the face for throwing too much or spamming safe moves at arcades. A  time where side betting made neighborhood rivalries that much more crazy. None of these people were remotely pro.  This stuff is today, is LIGHT.  TAKE IT EASY. It’s really not that serious.

    • http://twitter.com/esruc_cipe Preston M

      FYI Arcades are dead. I grew up in the same time. Good fucking riddance.

    • http://twitter.com/esruc_cipe Preston M

      FYI Arcades are dead. I grew up in the same time. Good fucking riddance.

    • Anonymous

      ” Does it deserve Arturo “Donnie Brasco” Sanchez undercover reporting for Bitch Ass Nightly News? ”

      never thought i’d see the day someone on the front page of SRK made me laugh

    • Anonymous

      ” Does it deserve Arturo “Donnie Brasco” Sanchez undercover reporting for Bitch Ass Nightly News? ”

      never thought i’d see the day someone on the front page of SRK made me laugh

  • Neeno Brown

    What is this the rap music industry? Shit has gotten so lame that people fake a beef to make $? Sad shit…

  • Anonymous

    The FGC = E-Sports Entertainment
    “ITS ALL STAGED” you have to realize that!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jamescarr9 James Carr

    To be honest, I don’t really care for the fighting game “community” after watching this show. It kind of give me a bad aftertaste. Top players being diva queens. Sexism and harassment. I don’t need to deal with this mess.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=745579039 Justt Bruce

      I can understand your point of view

    • http://twitter.com/Mike_Lowry92 Michael Brown

       Considering that the majority of the community is not like this I think you should reconsider.

      • http://twitter.com/broccoman Jeff

        It’s the responsibility of the FGC to prevent attitudes like Aris’s to be perceived as a big part of the community.

        • http://twitter.com/BRad480 B Rad

          I can understand why someone would come to this conclusion. By taking what Aris said and combining it with 90% of the comments made on any given stream it doesn’t paint a friendly picture. 

      • Anonymous

        Did you watch the stream monsters? The chat was OVERFLOWN with “staged” and “Miranda’s *insert bodypart*” to the point where it was near impossible to even get a single word of reason out there. Thousands of people saw that. And thousands of people were probably a part of it. Those who eventually proclaimed that they were only trolling, fail to realize how much fuel they were adding to the flames, only making things worse.

        • http://twitter.com/itskori Kori F

          dont try to argue with stream monsters, they’re only there to troll and usually be condescending dicks. your only chance of getting a word in edge ways is to go to a smaller stream – for example when li joe first started discussing it. there was a lot of healthy chat going on there.. then we reached 1k and we got a bunch of “staged”, “miranda’s thighs”, etc. but yeah, if you want to argue, definitely try a forum over the stream chat.

        • http://twitter.com/itskori Kori F

          dont try to argue with stream monsters, they’re only there to troll and usually be condescending dicks. your only chance of getting a word in edge ways is to go to a smaller stream – for example when li joe first started discussing it. there was a lot of healthy chat going on there.. then we reached 1k and we got a bunch of “staged”, “miranda’s thighs”, etc. but yeah, if you want to argue, definitely try a forum over the stream chat.

    • http://twitter.com/Mike_Lowry92 Michael Brown

       Considering that the majority of the community is not like this I think you should reconsider.

  • http://twitter.com/Rotanadan Joe Palkowitsch

    You guys are way over thinking this. This being a video game community sadly means many awkward people cannot handle themselves around girls. They should have made sure the coaches could handle it before choosing them for the roll.

  • Anonymous

    Lol @ FChamp being on the thumbnail. What are you insinuating, inkblot?

  • Anonymous

    Lol @ FChamp being on the thumbnail. What are you insinuating, inkblot?

  • D Major

    What’s even more funny is that the “FGC” are the same people who called #Staged at J. Wong and Daigos draw finish at Fight Club LA, yet they are so hurt and destroyed that Jago and Mike Ross hammed it up on their rivalry. You couldn’t tell it was friendly and silly?

    Maybe the FGC needs to turn down the levels of lameness that it’s currently accepting.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002137212435 Ashley Swank

    Girls that do decide to enter the FGC to compete must be prepared to meet Sexism and Harassment of all types.  Should they allow or accept any level of it only encourages bad behavior to continue.  I think some of the girls on cross assault learned this lesson the hard way.  Boys aren’t any exception either as the harassment exists on some level there.

    The way I see it is this.  Sexism and Harassment are born out of the other persons insecurities and terrible inability to communicate.  If a male is dumb enough to go there, then they should be prepared to face any and all the consequences.  Especially if the girl challenges them and floors them hard in a set of matches.  If they decline the challenge it gives the girl incentive to think hes nothing but a ball-less sad little boy.

    • Anonymous

      What would happen if the guy keeps talking like that and still win a set?  I’m just curious.  But everything you said is right!

  • Anonymous

    In regard to the Jago/Mike Ross situation:

    Arturo Sanchez did not “expose” anything.  After Bar Fights, in an interview on MLG-Slasher (12-12-11) with Gootecks and NerdJosh, Gootecks goes on in length about the “idea of rivalries” being “what they’ve geared their business on” (as opposed to tournaments).  He talks of the hype and fun this brings to the table and says, “Any jabs I give to Jago are strickly to present everything the way I think it should be presented………to make Jago the bad guy and Mike Ross the good guy.”

    This is like trying to compare The Home Run Derby with The World Series.  It just isn’t the same thing.  Sure, they want to win for the money and bragging rights, but it is less intense and less serious.  Of course the rivalry is inflated, as it should be to market this type of event.  I don’t have to believe that these guys would knife each other in a hotel corridor in order to enjoy watching their match.

    While it is unfortunate that Jago’s comment was caught on camera, I can understand their excitement in finally seeing some financial reward, even if it is not for winning a major.  These guys are both great players and both have invested a lot in the FGC.  To say they “don’t deserve” it is harsh.  I enjoy this type of event, and believe they do deserve it.  If you don’t, watch something else.

    • http://twitter.com/itskori Kori F

      you enjoy 5-0′s?

      • Anonymous

         I said that I enjoy this type of event.  Ross doesn’t even play marvel, so that was no surprise.  The only real entertainment in that case was the trash talking.

      • Anonymous

         I said that I enjoy this type of event.  Ross doesn’t even play marvel, so that was no surprise.  The only real entertainment in that case was the trash talking.

        • hyerty

          he doesn’t play marvel 3 such as no one played sfxt yet. It’s all a sham

        • hyerty

          he doesn’t play marvel 3 such as no one played sfxt yet. It’s all a sham

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D6WALE72HWWRXDOIZDVDCYIXEY Villain85

      It’s more like comparing the WWE with MMA

      The Home Run derby is just a display of batter skills. That’d be like a combo competition or something, but it was pretty fraudulent.

      I think the scene is just going through growing pains. In MMA, they acknowledge after the fight with bro hugs that they were just hyping shit, but because Mike and Jago didn’t do that. They played it, and didn’t acknowledge any mutual respect, or that the matches were real. And they kept playing it. I can understand hyping a rivalry, but you gotta acknowledge that you did it, otherwise it gets exposed and you’re standing there with egg on your face

      • Anonymous

         I understand your point.  I just see it differently.  Bar Fights was promoted as a “fun” event.  People who attended said they could see themselves bringing their girlfriends to these kinds of events, or watching with friends and drinking a few beers.  I believe the intent of was to offer the viewers a different choice, with a different experience.  These events were called exhibitions, not tournaments, for a reason.  They were trying something new, having fun with it, and hoping others were having fun too.  It’s just not that serious.

  • Anonymous

    “My biggest disappointment this weekend is that when Aris said that rowdy behavior and sexual harassment was “one in the same thing” with the fighting game scene, no one called him on it (especially Jared, who knows better).”

    Actually Jared called him on it. Aris and Jared even had an argument about this issue and misogyny in general.

    That’s why Jared left to go to twitch.

  • Anonymous

    This just shows my naivety. I thought the FGC was above stuff like this. Then again, I’m a casual player who mostly plays with my friends and hardly ever goes online. I watch CrossCounter and read the SRK forums; that’s about it.

    From what I see, Aris is a loudmouth who holds onto that 90s arcade attitude. “This is my house. You have to earn my respect or GTFO.” It’s one thing to be able to play at a high level and be a big name tournament figure, but isn’t the whole point of 1v1 gaming to interact and have fun? Why should it be this way?

    D-Toid, Kotaku and GB are all over this, but here’s what they left out: Miranda said some bad crap, too. Why isn’t she called out for sexism and racism for her talk about Korean males’ penis size? Oh, right. Because she’s a pretty white girl and she gets a free pass. What about when Jared Rea has been on video calling people “f****** retards”? What about the bad attitude displayed by FilipinoChamp on so many occasions?

    Don’t get me wrong. I still think Aris is a prick who needs to grow up and drop his attitude, but he shouldn’t be totally crucified when others have done things just as bad.

    And really, Miranda dropped out? Even Sherry seemed upset over that, and of course she got whiteknighted when, I believe it was Dr. Sub-Zero, gave her his share of the prizes. That was a cop out to appease.

    So, to recap for the TL;DR people: Aris shot his mouth off, everyone overreacted and the mainstream gaming press is overlooking the racist and sexist things Miranda said. Two sides, people. Two sides.

    • Anonymous

       Nah sub was not appeasing  any one, he may have a dirty mouth, but you can tell he is a decent guy, you can tell he is the type to give you the shirt off his back even if he has no shirt…just us old arcade throw backs have are own un Pc way about us.

      • http://twitter.com/itskori Kori F

        yeah, rock’s one of the coolest dudes you’ll ever meet. plus, to add to that, miranda was glad that rock gave her those gifts and tweeted about how she’s glad her spot didnt get wasted since he made it to the final 4.

      • http://twitter.com/itskori Kori F

        yeah, rock’s one of the coolest dudes you’ll ever meet. plus, to add to that, miranda was glad that rock gave her those gifts and tweeted about how she’s glad her spot didnt get wasted since he made it to the final 4.

      • http://twitter.com/itskori Kori F

        yeah, rock’s one of the coolest dudes you’ll ever meet. plus, to add to that, miranda was glad that rock gave her those gifts and tweeted about how she’s glad her spot didnt get wasted since he made it to the final 4.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=11203818 Jared Bushido-Brown Payton

    I’m surprised no one mentioned the dude that was wearing a blouse….. I was like dizam…This chick is getting it in….Then I realized it was a dude…. 

  • RenaTurnip

    Aris is not really a suitable person to ask about these things >_> EVO was pretty clear for that. I’d accept it if I thought he was just being cute, but, well, anyone familiar with the Aris and Kayo commentary ought to know.

  • http://twitter.com/BRad480 B Rad

    Aris’ comments where, utterly inappropriate especially in this situation where he is supposed to be representing the FGC on this show. If you don’t see what the problem with what he said is than you are likely either too young or to immature to appreciate how large of a problem this is. 

    But filtering through that you get to the root of the problem, Aris is scared. He’s scared the scene he’s been around for so long is changing, growing and will eventually leave him behind. He’d rather be a big fish in a small pond than see the scene grow and open up to a wider audience. Even in his apology comment he said “I felt that the culture of a scene I have been a part of for over 15 years was being threatened”. 

    This is a case of a scared immature ”kid” lashing out when he felt threatened. 

  • http://twitter.com/windsagio windsagio

    While it’s nice that Inkblot acknowledges the scene can be hostile to women, he’s substantially underselling it.  Excepting possibly the Uncle Tom, every woman I’ve seen speak up on the subject has described a really damn terrible environment up to and including grabby hands.

    Doesn’t do anybody any favors to whitewash it.

    Also, people need to quit trying to be ‘fake rowdy’.  If they legitimately are excited and popping off, that’s wonderful, but this ‘bad local theatre presents: The Yipes experience’ crap has got to go, it’s just pathetic.

    • http://twitter.com/esruc_cipe Preston M

       The thing is, most of the OG (with the glaring exception of Alex Valle) ARE ok with it. The OG never wanted FGs to get popular again. They were fine remaining the elitists, playing on 10+ year old games in the half-dozen dying arcades left in the country.

      Newbies getting blowback isn’t arcade-exclusive; it’s competition-exclusive. But the worst elements of the FGC take it to the extreme. Saying they don’t want any newblood *at all* (except to be pot-monsters hurr hurr). That mapping shoulders on pads should be banned. This is just the newbie hate. That’s not even getting into the blatant misogyny and of course the shady-ass inner-circle shit.

      As jokey as it is, FGC getting in bed with eSports would be a great thing, because the community needs to mature and shed a whole lot of fat (pun intended: because the worst offenders of the community are some fat muthafuckas).

  • http://twitter.com/MiiiiikeTran Michael Tran

    i love this article so much. thank you
    - proud member of the FGC

  • Anonymous

    The FGC cannot simultaneously support an exclusionary policy while striving for growth.  It is logistically impossible; they are mutually exclusive.  People like Aris who think that it’s part of the FGC’s culture to frown upon and degrade newcomers while taking part in a show designed to promote the fighting game community are also wrong.  It’s bad for Aris because people think he’s a scumbag for the way he behaves.  It’s bad for Capcom and Namco because no matter what they say about his positions not representing theirs, his selection was based on his knowledge of a Namco game and done so by Capcom representatives.  It’s bad for the FGC because we by-and-large promote and reinforce this kind of behavior as acceptable, using things like ‘it’s part of our culture’ and ‘it’s what made us who we are.’ 

    When I look at this discussion about what happened on cross assault, the parallel I’m able to make between the FGC’s logic and how Tea Party Republicans defend ‘religious freedom’ is pretty exact.  The basis of reasoning where the arguments come from is flat out wrong.  It would be like me trying to explain to someone why lightsabers don’t exist; they simply don’t because they’re not founded in reality.  Neither is the idea that the FGC can both be exclusionary and welcoming of newcomers and growth. 

    • http://twitter.com/windsagio windsagio

      The SRK guys are in a weird place.  They want growth, and they want to include women, but their friends by and large want neither.  

    • http://twitter.com/windsagio windsagio

      The SRK guys are in a weird place.  They want growth, and they want to include women, but their friends by and large want neither.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Forman/100002368924681 Eric Forman

    What sexual harassment? Jared Rea should stop making a mountain out of a molehill.

    here’s a transcript from the cross assault stream:

    Rea: When I go to SoCal regionals and I see a Phoenix [from Marvel vs. Capcom 3] on main stage getting blown up and there’s some dude in the audience just yelling “Bitch! Bitch!” every time she gets hit and then she killed and goes “Yeah, rape that bitch!” Yeah, that’s totally acceptable! Really? Really? You’re going to tell me that’s acceptable?

    Bakhtanians: Look, man. What is unacceptable about that? There’s nothing unacceptable about that. These are people, we’re in America, man, this isn’t North Korea. We can say what we want. People get emotional.

    Gotta agree with Aris here. The guy rooting against Phoenix is doing just that, rooting against Phoenix cuz he thinks she’s OP. Phoenix was probably played by a MALE player anyway. NO ONE WAS GETTING SEXUALLY HARRASSED. Jared Rea is just grasping at straws cuz he wants to censor the FGC and turn them into SC2 PC zombies.

    If Sherry or any female was REALLY sexually harrassed, you can bet your ass that Alex Valle would tick throw the offender outta his tourney right away. And that has never been necessary. Only in the imagination of Jared Rea is SoCal Regionals a nasty place where female gamers like Sherry are being sexually harassed.

    • http://twitter.com/srslygtfo Mr. X

       Hey man the SC2 community is the model eSports model we should strive to be
      http://starcraft2presents.com/category/linda-liao/

      They are paving the road to the future!

    • http://twitter.com/srslygtfo Mr. X

       Hey man the SC2 community is the model eSports model we should strive to be
      http://starcraft2presents.com/category/linda-liao/

      They are paving the road to the future!

    • http://twitter.com/BRad480 B Rad

      I don’t think you read the whole conversation between the 2, or saw the stream where Aris tries to arrange a mud wrestling contest between the 2 female contestants on the show in which he would wrestle the winner, among other instances.

    • http://twitter.com/esruc_cipe Preston M

      No, the only reason why that gets a pass is because the community is completely dominated by males. I can guaran-damn-tee that if were calling Raven or Balrog porch-monkeys, it would get shut down real quick. Hell, even if people were calling Wesker a cracker en masse, it would get handled.

      But saying bitch in every other sentence with female characters? Nah, that’s ok

      • http://twitter.com/srslygtfo Mr. X

         You should watch a Marvel stream when the Coon AKA Rocket Raccoon is playing.

        Shoutouts to KFC Fanatiq and Team White People

      • http://twitter.com/srslygtfo Mr. X

         You should watch a Marvel stream when the Coon AKA Rocket Raccoon is playing.

        Shoutouts to KFC Fanatiq and Team White People

      • Anonymous

        There’s a bunch of people who ain’t black saying n*gga all the time. What’s your point? All I know is that I’ve fought dark phoenix. She is indeed a bitch.

        • http://twitter.com/esruc_cipe Preston M

          Are you being naive? Or just trying to win an argument? They are saying “nigga.” It’s not in an offensive way at all.

          But let people calling Storm a “nigger” *all the time* and see what happens.

          • Anonymous

            Not really trying to win an argument I just don’t see why you get so offended. I’m black. If some rascist asshole decides to shout obscenities at a video game character, I’ve got a few options. 1. Proceed to beat his ass. 2. Give him a taste of his own medicine and start yelling obscenities at the predominately white cast. Or 3. Move on with my life. One thing I will not do is cry a river and demand that i need his acceptance because I don’t. And he’s not obligated to accept me.

            As far as the whole bitch thing goes, I don’t see this degrading to women. Why? Because I’m not referring to women when I say it. Im referring to bitches. I have sense to know that not all women are bitches and not all bitches are women. Plenty of guys on this site bitching about the most trivial of shit is proof to that.

            So again, what is your point? You want to start demanding equal rights to video game characters?

        • http://twitter.com/esruc_cipe Preston M

          Are you being naive? Or just trying to win an argument? They are saying “nigga.” It’s not in an offensive way at all.

          But let people calling Storm a “nigger” *all the time* and see what happens.

        • http://twitter.com/esruc_cipe Preston M

          Are you being naive? Or just trying to win an argument? They are saying “nigga.” It’s not in an offensive way at all.

          But let people calling Storm a “nigger” *all the time* and see what happens.

        • http://twitter.com/esruc_cipe Preston M

          Are you being naive? Or just trying to win an argument? They are saying “nigga.” It’s not in an offensive way at all.

          But let people calling Storm a “nigger” *all the time* and see what happens.

      • Anonymous

        There’s a bunch of people who ain’t black saying n*gga all the time. What’s your point? All I know is that I’ve fought dark phoenix. She is indeed a bitch.

    • http://twitter.com/esruc_cipe Preston M

      No, the only reason why that gets a pass is because the community is completely dominated by males. I can guaran-damn-tee that if were calling Raven or Balrog porch-monkeys, it would get shut down real quick. Hell, even if people were calling Wesker a cracker en masse, it would get handled.

      But saying bitch in every other sentence with female characters? Nah, that’s ok

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Forman/100002368924681 Eric Forman

    What sexual harassment? Jared Rea should stop making a mountain out of a molehill.

    here’s a transcript from the cross assault stream:

    Rea: When I go to SoCal regionals and I see a Phoenix [from Marvel vs. Capcom 3] on main stage getting blown up and there’s some dude in the audience just yelling “Bitch! Bitch!” every time she gets hit and then she killed and goes “Yeah, rape that bitch!” Yeah, that’s totally acceptable! Really? Really? You’re going to tell me that’s acceptable?

    Bakhtanians: Look, man. What is unacceptable about that? There’s nothing unacceptable about that. These are people, we’re in America, man, this isn’t North Korea. We can say what we want. People get emotional.

    Gotta agree with Aris here. The guy rooting against Phoenix is doing just that, rooting against Phoenix cuz he thinks she’s OP. Phoenix was probably played by a MALE player anyway. NO ONE WAS GETTING SEXUALLY HARRASSED. Jared Rea is just grasping at straws cuz he wants to censor the FGC and turn them into SC2 PC zombies.

    If Sherry or any female was REALLY sexually harrassed, you can bet your ass that Alex Valle would tick throw the offender outta his tourney right away. And that has never been necessary. Only in the imagination of Jared Rea is SoCal Regionals a nasty place where female gamers like Sherry are being sexually harassed.

  • dub bud

    I sear that evo 2011 moments where everybody raises their arms to Rufus’ Ultra almost brings a tear to my eye… no idea why.

  • dub bud

    I sear that evo 2011 moments where everybody raises their arms to Rufus’ Ultra almost brings a tear to my eye… no idea why.

  • http://www.facebook.com/josepht.medina Joey T Medina

    Well written.

    Over the whole course of the show the only thing that still resonates with me is the comments Aris made to the public about our scene. That is the only thing that will follow and possibly haunt us in the future.

    I can’t see myself ever forgiving Aris for saying the things he did; giving the press the most horrible depiction of what we stand for. I haven’t stopped thinking about it since I’ve read the articles posted by the game news sites.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rokninja Jelani Akin Parham

       Me either, sadly.  This whole past week just…  doesn’t sit well with me.

      Personally, I needed to read an article like this to put things in perspective.  Unlike some of these overly sensational articles that have gone out there.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rokninja Jelani Akin Parham

       Me either, sadly.  This whole past week just…  doesn’t sit well with me.

      Personally, I needed to read an article like this to put things in perspective.  Unlike some of these overly sensational articles that have gone out there.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/63ROLL26PLGMXQ3FJBIICWW2N4 james

    I think this article just tries to cover up the problems with have with our community with happy memories. “We DO have some issues we need to go through, guys. But, that’s for another day. Here, look, a funny video!”

    C’mon, man.

    • Anonymous

      I agree 100%!
      All this article is saying is “Yay, this community is really great and unique and open minded and tolerant and welcoming…we do have some issues we need to go through…but hey, let’s focus on the positive”.
      That’s just Bullsh*t! Face it the FGC is misogynic as hell…even the top players treat women (those who attend tournaments) really bad…I’ve seen it so many times…obvious douchebags like FChamps but also rolemodels like Ricky Ortiz…sadly.

  • http://twitter.com/Cloak007 Cloaker

    THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ABOUT! GOOD READ!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Cj-Mba/701230252 Tony Cj Mba

    I think i felt a tear drop after watching these epic videos…FGC 4 LIFE!!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       What a little bitch.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       What a little bitch.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       What a little bitch.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       What a little bitch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=726480805 Mike Henry

    I’m not sure I agree with so many people saying the FGC is an “accepting” and welcoming community.  I mean, it is very friendly and welcoming…once you get good.  Before that, you’re pretty much stomped on and laughed at.  Now, I don’t know if that’s necessarily a bad thing since it’s a big factor in helping a lot of people get better, but I don’t think we’re some all-welcoming, newbie-friendly community.  And don’t get me started on how vicious stream monsters can be.

    But yeah, the article itself is definitely a breath of fresh air.

  • http://twitter.com/Osirun Nathan Shields

    Excellent, succinct article.

  • http://twitter.com/Osirun Nathan Shields

    Excellent, succinct article.

  • http://twitter.com/Osirun Nathan Shields

    Excellent, succinct article.

  • http://twitter.com/Osirun Nathan Shields

    Excellent, succinct article.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MUGENKombat Draxx On’mygshit Rickumz

    The funny thing is…. You dont have to say a word to play fighting games. Hecklers and shit talkers are just weak ass players that need a crutch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MUGENKombat Draxx On’mygshit Rickumz

    The funny thing is…. You dont have to say a word to play fighting games. Hecklers and shit talkers are just weak ass players that need a crutch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christiancgarrido Christian Garrido

    IF ARIS DIDN’T TOUCH THE TIT / YOU MUST ACQUIT  – attributed to FUSON909

  • Anonymous

    Someone should, on video, analyze Jago’s matches that were on stream before his match vs Mike. And then analyze his matches vs Mike.

    I understand why no one wants to point out that those matches were fake. People love Mike, Capcom and contracts were involved.. etc. But the way people handled this after the fact is fucking disgusting. So many people pushing their integrity to the side, and tearing down other people in the process.

    Good shit “FGC”. Hope you make it in Hollywood.

    • hyerty

      That’s what I was thinking..but whenever he faces a grappler he still rushes down no matter what. He gets punished for that and then goes full retard. That’s jago for you..

  • Anonymous

    Someone should, on video, analyze Jago’s matches that were on stream before his match vs Mike. And then analyze his matches vs Mike.

    I understand why no one wants to point out that those matches were fake. People love Mike, Capcom and contracts were involved.. etc. But the way people handled this after the fact is fucking disgusting. So many people pushing their integrity to the side, and tearing down other people in the process.

    Good shit “FGC”. Hope you make it in Hollywood.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MUGENKombat Draxx On’mygshit Rickumz

    “This is similar to what people say when they get into an argument with their girlfriend, and they say things that they deeply regret.”

    Its sounds like this is some shit that happens often. HAHAHA.Seriously tho, dude was team tekken’s LEADER. As a tekken player I could have thought of 10 other players that could have went against Valle. Ben Cureton would have been the shit!!!

    Lets not forget that some of this is not just arcade mentality, but INTERNET mentality. This community started for me on mIRC efnet #Tekken and #Capcom. The very best migrated there and we were anonymous. And talked mad shit ANONYMOUSLY. We went to tourneys and arcades across the country BEFORE EVO. People are people. And people dont change.

    Times change, places change, everyone is watching and things are different. My personal opinion:

    Capcom picked a bad LEADER for Team Tekken.

  • http://twitter.com/Figcoinc Figcoinc

    The writer of the Giantbomb’s Article just promoted this article on his Twitter. I really respect Patrick on this one. This needed to get out there. People hate to see the worst aspects of their community pushed forward, and it possibly be viewed as the community as a whole. Patrick’s article was very fair, but did not baby the issue. A big issue that has been growing for a long time. One that has only gotten worse. Not just for sexism, but the FGC as a whole issue with anyone that is new or considered an outsider.

    I’ve been into fighting games, played them, and been in the community for longer than most of these posters on SRK. Simply because of age. Just not super active because of real world responsibilities. I’ve seen the harshness of being getting bashed to the point they leave the community. Then stated it was a “test’ of some sort. The only test of being apart of the community is not being talked down to, but the skills they bring to the table. At least the willingness to learn. 

    The FGC is a amazing group. Yes we do give each other a hard time, but there is a huge difference between giving someone a hard time in a fun way and actually making them feel alone. The community was not like that before. We used to welcome the new, the scrubby, and even the goofy. If they could hang was determined by how well they did in-game, and their willingness to bring new people into the fold. It was our little club, and one we were happy to see more people join. Then things started to change. Instead of being a group of lovable assholes we’ve became a group of assholes period. A group that mocked anyone who wanted to learn. Constantly mocked them if they enjoyed certain fighters to the point it went from game rivalry to commenting on them as a person.

    This has to stop. The FGC is one of the best communities I have ever been apart of. I met in person, and talk on SRK some of the best people. We can do much better than this. We will always have that edge about us – that I hope never leaves – but we also must grow up. What we’ve accomplished in the last few years is amazing. The spotlight is on us now, and it is our time to show that we are a group of mentoring and not a isolated corner of the gaming community. We must call out those who try to bring us down to levels that do nothing but harm the community. We must also call out to those who view the newcomers as enemies.

    We must become that group that once welcomed the newcomer to the arcade, showed them the ropes, dominate them in-game until they learn what they did wrong. We must become what the community used to be best at. Teachers.

  • http://twitter.com/Figcoinc Figcoinc

    The writer of the Giantbomb’s Article just promoted this article on his Twitter. I really respect Patrick on this one. This needed to get out there. People hate to see the worst aspects of their community pushed forward, and it possibly be viewed as the community as a whole. Patrick’s article was very fair, but did not baby the issue. A big issue that has been growing for a long time. One that has only gotten worse. Not just for sexism, but the FGC as a whole issue with anyone that is new or considered an outsider.

    I’ve been into fighting games, played them, and been in the community for longer than most of these posters on SRK. Simply because of age. Just not super active because of real world responsibilities. I’ve seen the harshness of being getting bashed to the point they leave the community. Then stated it was a “test’ of some sort. The only test of being apart of the community is not being talked down to, but the skills they bring to the table. At least the willingness to learn. 

    The FGC is a amazing group. Yes we do give each other a hard time, but there is a huge difference between giving someone a hard time in a fun way and actually making them feel alone. The community was not like that before. We used to welcome the new, the scrubby, and even the goofy. If they could hang was determined by how well they did in-game, and their willingness to bring new people into the fold. It was our little club, and one we were happy to see more people join. Then things started to change. Instead of being a group of lovable assholes we’ve became a group of assholes period. A group that mocked anyone who wanted to learn. Constantly mocked them if they enjoyed certain fighters to the point it went from game rivalry to commenting on them as a person.

    This has to stop. The FGC is one of the best communities I have ever been apart of. I met in person, and talk on SRK some of the best people. We can do much better than this. We will always have that edge about us – that I hope never leaves – but we also must grow up. What we’ve accomplished in the last few years is amazing. The spotlight is on us now, and it is our time to show that we are a group of mentoring and not a isolated corner of the gaming community. We must call out those who try to bring us down to levels that do nothing but harm the community. We must also call out to those who view the newcomers as enemies.

    We must become that group that once welcomed the newcomer to the arcade, showed them the ropes, dominate them in-game until they learn what they did wrong. We must become what the community used to be best at. Teachers.

  • http://twitter.com/Figcoinc Figcoinc

    The writer of the Giantbomb’s Article just promoted this article on his Twitter. I really respect Patrick on this one. This needed to get out there. People hate to see the worst aspects of their community pushed forward, and it possibly be viewed as the community as a whole. Patrick’s article was very fair, but did not baby the issue. A big issue that has been growing for a long time. One that has only gotten worse. Not just for sexism, but the FGC as a whole issue with anyone that is new or considered an outsider.

    I’ve been into fighting games, played them, and been in the community for longer than most of these posters on SRK. Simply because of age. Just not super active because of real world responsibilities. I’ve seen the harshness of being getting bashed to the point they leave the community. Then stated it was a “test’ of some sort. The only test of being apart of the community is not being talked down to, but the skills they bring to the table. At least the willingness to learn. 

    The FGC is a amazing group. Yes we do give each other a hard time, but there is a huge difference between giving someone a hard time in a fun way and actually making them feel alone. The community was not like that before. We used to welcome the new, the scrubby, and even the goofy. If they could hang was determined by how well they did in-game, and their willingness to bring new people into the fold. It was our little club, and one we were happy to see more people join. Then things started to change. Instead of being a group of lovable assholes we’ve became a group of assholes period. A group that mocked anyone who wanted to learn. Constantly mocked them if they enjoyed certain fighters to the point it went from game rivalry to commenting on them as a person.

    This has to stop. The FGC is one of the best communities I have ever been apart of. I met in person, and talk on SRK some of the best people. We can do much better than this. We will always have that edge about us – that I hope never leaves – but we also must grow up. What we’ve accomplished in the last few years is amazing. The spotlight is on us now, and it is our time to show that we are a group of mentoring and not a isolated corner of the gaming community. We must call out those who try to bring us down to levels that do nothing but harm the community. We must also call out to those who view the newcomers as enemies.

    We must become that group that once welcomed the newcomer to the arcade, showed them the ropes, dominate them in-game until they learn what they did wrong. We must become what the community used to be best at. Teachers.

  • http://twitter.com/Figcoinc Figcoinc

    The writer of the Giantbomb’s Article just promoted this article on his Twitter. I really respect Patrick on this one. This needed to get out there. People hate to see the worst aspects of their community pushed forward, and it possibly be viewed as the community as a whole. Patrick’s article was very fair, but did not baby the issue. A big issue that has been growing for a long time. One that has only gotten worse. Not just for sexism, but the FGC as a whole issue with anyone that is new or considered an outsider.

    I’ve been into fighting games, played them, and been in the community for longer than most of these posters on SRK. Simply because of age. Just not super active because of real world responsibilities. I’ve seen the harshness of being getting bashed to the point they leave the community. Then stated it was a “test’ of some sort. The only test of being apart of the community is not being talked down to, but the skills they bring to the table. At least the willingness to learn. 

    The FGC is a amazing group. Yes we do give each other a hard time, but there is a huge difference between giving someone a hard time in a fun way and actually making them feel alone. The community was not like that before. We used to welcome the new, the scrubby, and even the goofy. If they could hang was determined by how well they did in-game, and their willingness to bring new people into the fold. It was our little club, and one we were happy to see more people join. Then things started to change. Instead of being a group of lovable assholes we’ve became a group of assholes period. A group that mocked anyone who wanted to learn. Constantly mocked them if they enjoyed certain fighters to the point it went from game rivalry to commenting on them as a person.

    This has to stop. The FGC is one of the best communities I have ever been apart of. I met in person, and talk on SRK some of the best people. We can do much better than this. We will always have that edge about us – that I hope never leaves – but we also must grow up. What we’ve accomplished in the last few years is amazing. The spotlight is on us now, and it is our time to show that we are a group of mentoring and not a isolated corner of the gaming community. We must call out those who try to bring us down to levels that do nothing but harm the community. We must also call out to those who view the newcomers as enemies.

    We must become that group that once welcomed the newcomer to the arcade, showed them the ropes, dominate them in-game until they learn what they did wrong. We must become what the community used to be best at. Teachers.

  • http://twitter.com/Figcoinc Figcoinc

    The writer of the Giantbomb’s Article just promoted this article on his Twitter. I really respect Patrick on this one. This needed to get out there. People hate to see the worst aspects of their community pushed forward, and it possibly be viewed as the community as a whole. Patrick’s article was very fair, but did not baby the issue. A big issue that has been growing for a long time. One that has only gotten worse. Not just for sexism, but the FGC as a whole issue with anyone that is new or considered an outsider.

    I’ve been into fighting games, played them, and been in the community for longer than most of these posters on SRK. Simply because of age. Just not super active because of real world responsibilities. I’ve seen the harshness of being getting bashed to the point they leave the community. Then stated it was a “test’ of some sort. The only test of being apart of the community is not being talked down to, but the skills they bring to the table. At least the willingness to learn. 

    The FGC is a amazing group. Yes we do give each other a hard time, but there is a huge difference between giving someone a hard time in a fun way and actually making them feel alone. The community was not like that before. We used to welcome the new, the scrubby, and even the goofy. If they could hang was determined by how well they did in-game, and their willingness to bring new people into the fold. It was our little club, and one we were happy to see more people join. Then things started to change. Instead of being a group of lovable assholes we’ve became a group of assholes period. A group that mocked anyone who wanted to learn. Constantly mocked them if they enjoyed certain fighters to the point it went from game rivalry to commenting on them as a person.

    This has to stop. The FGC is one of the best communities I have ever been apart of. I met in person, and talk on SRK some of the best people. We can do much better than this. We will always have that edge about us – that I hope never leaves – but we also must grow up. What we’ve accomplished in the last few years is amazing. The spotlight is on us now, and it is our time to show that we are a group of mentoring and not a isolated corner of the gaming community. We must call out those who try to bring us down to levels that do nothing but harm the community. We must also call out to those who view the newcomers as enemies.

    We must become that group that once welcomed the newcomer to the arcade, showed them the ropes, dominate them in-game until they learn what they did wrong. We must become what the community used to be best at. Teachers.

    • http://twitter.com/windsagio windsagio

      what happens is people become invested in becoming part of the community (preferably an important one) rather than being invested in the game.

    • http://twitter.com/windsagio windsagio

      what happens is people become invested in becoming part of the community (preferably an important one) rather than being invested in the game.

      • http://twitter.com/Figcoinc Figcoinc

        That is it in some respect. I think the desire for acceptance in a community tends to bring in an aspect of “group think”. Which in a community that thrives on rivalry/friction has a very delicate balance to it. I just hope as this story settles down that the FGC grows a bit, and becomes more vocal about such actions. The silent majority needs to speak up against the loud minority. Then you will see changes by those people since their desire to be apart of the FGC seems to out weight their investment in the game.

        Time will only tell, and I hope this all turns out to be a hard but positive experience for us all.

  • Anonymous

    I disliked aris before it was cool. From his podcasts, I’ve gotten two main ideas: tekken is a man’s game and everyone should play on arcade cabs. In his perfect world, people like myself would essentially be shut out of tournaments and that is offensive. I know he tries to support his arcades/tekken, streams from there occasionally, does tutorial videos, video reviews, podcast, etc. His heart is in the right place and that’s why, even I can’t stand to see the character assassination. What these articles are really about are the commentary and rude people at tournaments but they want to crucify aris.
    There is no forgiving most of what he says but most of the people are basing this on clips, which make it look not only x10 worse but that it’s exclusive to him. Most people speaking on the show didn’t watch all or any of it. His rant on what is and isn’t a part of the fgc was his and his alone, after getting baited by jared, but even in the 12 minute video summary of the rude comments day 1 you can hear the other guys getting involved. I think aris truly realizes, from his twitter response, that this is way bigger than he thought and honestly I think he has to handle the media attention alone. The issue I have is the comment sections on the articles are not only insulting his looks but on a few forums, people are talking of getting together at future events and heckling aris. One guy on neogaf said he’s gonna break aris’ jaw and I believe it.

  • http://twitter.com/BarackOBlanka Barack OBlanka
  • http://twitter.com/AceOfCakez Ace

    Aris giving a bad name for the FGC. It’s good to see that the higher ups aren’t brats and haters like most of the FGC are. 

  • http://twitter.com/NEMChaos NEMChaos

    I love the fighting game community because they are like the guys you play games with in real life, plus they don’t focus on getting a sponsor or anything like that. What I mean is that they will hands down just enter a tournament without the fancy stuff and its very enjoyable to watch. Plus; the guys are super great to talk to. 

  • http://twitter.com/NEMChaos NEMChaos

    I love the fighting game community because they are like the guys you play games with in real life, plus they don’t focus on getting a sponsor or anything like that. What I mean is that they will hands down just enter a tournament without the fancy stuff and its very enjoyable to watch. Plus; the guys are super great to talk to. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       Sorry, who the fuck wants to play games with creepy rapists?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       Sorry, who the fuck wants to play games with creepy rapists?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUKNELDEN6QWNCPAJDTKFOIJBQ FGCAreRapists

       Sorry, who the fuck wants to play games with creepy rapists?

  • http://www.facebook.com/dioforce Nathan Low

    This article was alright until you started writing in the first person, easy way to lose impact with your read, because no one gives a shit about you. Write in the third person, keep that fourth wall up!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Li/100000226884069 Jason Li

    Here’s my 2 cent of the issue:

    Aris-Miranda sexual Harrassment: 

    I don’t care what ppl say whatsoever, Sexual Harassment is wrong PERIOD.  I mean a lot of ppl that seen Aris do his thing a lot will be like “Well, that’s just the normal him”.  The Problem is that what he did was not right AT ALL, in the court of law, what he did (commenting on people’s sexuality, bra size (which he did told Miranda that DURING the stream, its on record)) is CONSIDER sexual harassment if someone tell them to stop, which Miranda did told both Aris to stop and ask Capcom to do something about it (according to “ppl behind the scene” and LI Joe’s steam, when he as interviewing SherryJenix, I think), and Aris just never stopped.

    Some people may say “well, Miranda never say anything on stream/she laugh about it”, well, like some fo the poster said above, Aris is at a position of power (coach), Miranda might be “intimidated” into not saying anything about it.  This is like your boss keep doing snide comment toward u at work, what u gonna do, tell him to stop?  You can, and some boss will stop, but some will just take revenge on u.  I am not saying Aris will screw Miranda over if she tell him no, I am saying is don’t pin THE BLAME on Miranda for “Taking the abuse and not speak up”, the blame should go to Aris simply for being Immature during a situation like this by just keep speaking his mind without thinking this question: “will this work piss majority of ppl off?”

    But this situation shows that the FGC in general has a problem regarding attitude and maturity.  A lot of people (both Old School and New School) (I started playing in UC Davis’s arcade in 2004, so I am a tweener) simply got the mentality of FGC is a scene where u can discard all social norm, and do all sorts of offensive antics (like using the N-word all day, calling female “insert a verb”), with no regard for other people’s feeling.  That’s the problem we HAVE to change in order for the scene to grow PROPERLY, those people that do the immature stuff need to GROW up.  You are not only making the whole scene looks bad, you’re making YOURSELF look like an uneducated loser when u doing these antics.  People may say “well, this is how the scene has been for ages”, that’s like telling the Southern White governors telling blacks back in the 60s “well, you haven’t been able to vote for ages, whats the big deal?”.  If something is NOT right, Its NOT RIGHT PERIOD.  Like how a bunch of Stream Monster laugh and make fun of Noel Brown for kissing his mom’s Picture (may her rest in peace) AFTER it was known what happen to her last year, I was always one of the first people on stream to tell people that its not appropriate to make fun of people’s situation.  (I don’t care what age you are, losing a parent like that WILL FUCKED you up psychologically).  That’s the immaturity problem that is prevalent throughout the scene.

    If we need to grow as a scene to get more Legitimate recognition as a entertainment option (something similar to Starcraft 2)  These immaturity and the Macho-aggressive attitude need to be adjusted.  I am not saying turn the scene complete PG rated, just restraint yourself before u say something that hurts people.  Better yet, follow the Social norm rule: “Make sure you THINK before the word/actions comes out of your mouth/do whatever u do”

    Mike Ross-Jago:

    Well, I think a lot of us know that the whole thing feel a bit staged (why in the world they hate each other all of a sudden), this is like WWE, creating a scene and storyline for everyone to follow.  Some people may say: “well, they stole Capcom’s money.”  Wrong, they TOOK the money Capcom Gave them for their Cross Assault Match, and I think the match is legit too, since Jago said in Art’s video that “he always have problem against Gief, if Gief is in MVC3 he would own my soul”, that give me hint that he does have problem against gief, which do say the match is probably legit.  Now Jago and Ross do take some people for a ride, but no matter what happen, it does instill a sense of excitment into the scene and get ppl more excited about their match.  Was their way of doing it wrong?  Maybe.  But was their action selfish?  Yes and no, yes because they did do it for personal gain, but No because they did help the scene grow a little more and get more people interested in it (I call it unintended side effect)

    People say “Mike Ross can’t be mad at Art, Art is simply showing what’s going on behind the scene”.  Maybe these people has a point, but the main reason ppl are not happy with Art is because Art violated the trust Mike have in him, and Art further compounded the problem when he lied to Mike and Jago after they ask him was he streaming in the car and Art said no.  This goes back to the maturity issue, I think a lot of u guys remember how Art messed with Sp00ky’s gear at one of the Big Two event, and Art lied to Sp00ky after Sp00ky caught him messing with the gear.  That just show Art can’t owned up to his mistake (I am not saying Arturo is a bad person AT ALL, he’s probably a nice guy too)  Its just his way of doing thing is very immature.  But we can’t say this entire situation is good or bad at all, since we REALLY don’t know the full effect of this situation and how this will TRULY impact our scene, and this is not a wild spread issue (fake rivalry and stuff like that).  

    Like it or not, these situation need to be tone-down/eliminated before we can truly grow the FGC into a larger scene.  If u dont’ agree with what I said, I welcome counterpoint, but based it on REASON and LOGIC, please.

    P.S.  Sorry if the thing sounds long winded and disjointed, that’s what happen when you write this on 4 hours of sleep…:(

  • Giorgio Mariani

    A lot has been said already on this issue, so I’ll just add this:

    I’ve been heartened by the amount of people coming out with shows of support for Miranda anad condemnation for Aris. However, I’ve been equally disgusted to see the amount of people whose first reaction is to say that Miranda invited the harassment by being a drama queen, or by giggling, or by entering the show. 

    Not blaming the victim is pretty much gender relations 101.

    Aris needs to apologise to Miranda and to the community, of course. But more than that, what needs to happen is an examination of how we as a community relate to newcomers and to women. Aris’s comments speak to an attitude where it’s acceptable and encouraged to “haze” newcomers, and it needs to stop. 

    Being a dick to people just because they’re new to the scene, or because they’re not pro level, or because they’re a girl doesn’t show anyone that you’re tough or that your scene is street. It just shows that Aris is clinging to a previous iteration of the community where he was more prominent.

    The FGC is at its best when it’s welcoming, when it glorifies the pros but is open and supportive to people who genuinely want to learn. This isn’t some sort of dysfunctional family where you need to get through a wall of hostility and harassment before you “earn” your place. Neither should it be the sort of community where a girl like Miranda needs to put up with lechery and harassment or be dismissed as a weak gurl. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/rokninja Jelani Akin Parham

       This.  This this this.  Couldn’t agree more.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rokninja Jelani Akin Parham

       This.  This this this.  Couldn’t agree more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/drunkmonkeys Casey Collings

    Saying that Aris doesn’t represent the fighting game community is laughable. Spend 5 minutes in any streamed majors chat room and all of this childish B.S is reinforced. Aris may not represent some of the top tier players…but he represents stream monsters and the sexist, racist bullshit they say 100% Streams are where new players will be introduced to the community, and if all they see is hate from the chat room, what are they going to think about the community?

    I like Aris but dude should of used his brain. There’s a time and place.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Oscar-Villa-Tr/100001054143207 Oscar Villa Tr

    Watching the videos and reading the recent comments.. I can say that at this point we need to just ignore people. We wont get anywhere trying to explain the good that we have, we know what we have, and they are just stream monsters. Let it go, and Im not saying this to the trolls, they will never let it go, Im saying it to those who genuinely enjoy this community and/or actually attend events. Let it go.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D6WALE72HWWRXDOIZDVDCYIXEY Villain85

      This is going to happen more and more frequently as the FGC grows. The guys on camera are repping the community, and when something controversial happens, it’ll blow up. That’s just the nature of this scene getting this type of attention.

  • Anonymous

    The problem with Aris is that he plays too much. Miranda should have told him “It ain’t about playing no more, it’s about that paypuh!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/victoly Matthew Taylor

    Nobody’s handled the situation appropriately.

    This mess never should’ve happened.  Aris acted way too crude and wouldn’t stop talking about sexual things on a professional, PG stream; Miranda was passive aggressive in handling her beef with Aris; Capcom did nothing to help the situation yet busted Sub Zero for inappropriateness; Jared Rea was a slimy hypocritical bastard most likely giving his connections the scoop, backstabbing the people who made his career in order to further his own esports agenda; and all of the stream monsters who egg on this inane bullshit and take sides without knowing jack shit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/victoly Matthew Taylor

    Nobody’s handled the situation appropriately.

    This mess never should’ve happened.  Aris acted way too crude and wouldn’t stop talking about sexual things on a professional, PG stream; Miranda was passive aggressive in handling her beef with Aris; Capcom did nothing to help the situation yet busted Sub Zero for inappropriateness; Jared Rea was a slimy hypocritical bastard most likely giving his connections the scoop, backstabbing the people who made his career in order to further his own esports agenda; and all of the stream monsters who egg on this inane bullshit and take sides without knowing jack shit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/victoly Matthew Taylor

    Nobody’s handled the situation appropriately.

    This mess never should’ve happened.  Aris acted way too crude and wouldn’t stop talking about sexual things on a professional, PG stream; Miranda was passive aggressive in handling her beef with Aris; Capcom did nothing to help the situation yet busted Sub Zero for inappropriateness; Jared Rea was a slimy hypocritical bastard most likely giving his connections the scoop, backstabbing the people who made his career in order to further his own esports agenda; and all of the stream monsters who egg on this inane bullshit and take sides without knowing jack shit.

  • http://twitter.com/chubbypillow Erock

    Aris is pretty disgusting.

    Sexual harassment is NOT ok, just like racism is NOT ok.

  • http://twitter.com/chubbypillow Erock

    Aris is pretty disgusting.

    Sexual harassment is NOT ok, just like racism is NOT ok.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tyrone-McAllister/510677201 Tyrone McAllister

    Well after reviewing the evidence it’s pretty clear Aris is a sexists womanizing and sick individual. While I feel the FGC is fragile and desperate for any attention it can get to stir up attention and drama, this is a cause for real concern. I understand Aris, mentality about heckling and scrubbing out newer player and the ol’ school arcade mentality, but his comments where directly sexist. His tweet is a scummy back step, trying to say he was caught in the hype of the moment is a load of horse shit, for 13 straight minutes he spewed out sexist and hateful comments. They where awkward and clearly isolated Miranda. This comments did not have to be geared towards her sexuality, every comment was sexual and to be honest very disgusting.

    Aris needs to be removed from team tekken, I wont support a show with this suckling sexist pig spewing his hateful mouth.
    “Love of the fighting game community?” is what made you a sexist filithy pig?
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StyahOpeEbk

    watch this and be the judge yourself was this just one or two rude or offensive comments, or direct sexual harassment?

    • http://twitter.com/cdkee cdkee

      Yes, Aris’ actions were more than disgusting. However, trust me, the FGC is not “desperate” for this attention as you claim.

    • http://twitter.com/cdkee cdkee

      Yes, Aris’ actions were more than disgusting. However, trust me, the FGC is not “desperate” for this attention as you claim.

    • http://twitter.com/cdkee cdkee

      Yes, Aris’ actions were more than disgusting. However, trust me, the FGC is not “desperate” for this attention as you claim.

    • http://twitter.com/cdkee cdkee

      Yes, Aris’ actions were more than disgusting. However, trust me, the FGC is not “desperate” for this attention as you claim.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tyrone-McAllister/510677201 Tyrone McAllister

    Well after reviewing the evidence it’s pretty clear Aris is a sexists womanizing and sick individual. While I feel the FGC is fragile and desperate for any attention it can get to stir up attention and drama, this is a cause for real concern. I understand Aris, mentality about heckling and scrubbing out newer player and the ol’ school arcade mentality, but his comments where directly sexist. His tweet is a scummy back step, trying to say he was caught in the hype of the moment is a load of horse shit, for 13 straight minutes he spewed out sexist and hateful comments. They where awkward and clearly isolated Miranda. This comments did not have to be geared towards her sexuality, every comment was sexual and to be honest very disgusting.

    Aris needs to be removed from team tekken, I wont support a show with this suckling sexist pig spewing his hateful mouth.
    “Love of the fighting game community?” is what made you a sexist filithy pig?
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StyahOpeEbk

    watch this and be the judge yourself was this just one or two rude or offensive comments, or direct sexual harassment?

  • allytronic

    I just have one question…why the fuck was Marn wearing pajamas?

  • allytronic

    I just have one question…why the fuck was Marn wearing pajamas?

  • Anonymous

    Aris is a disgusting human being and he should have kicked off of Cross Assault. I feel for poor Miranda for having to deal with that neanderthal.

  • Anonymous

    This is entirely the fault of the production company for not being vigilant enough about who and what they allow on their show. Whilst Aris certainly has acted like a complete idiot here, that segment was going on for ages and no one realised what was happening and stepped in sooner. . . wow.   “Professionalism” look it up. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/BoodaSRK Stephen Sloboda

    Cannon’d!

  • http://twitter.com/Karandras_ Trent

    “the scene is the most diverse on the planet, with players from all races, sexual orientations, and walks of life.”

    I like that they didn’t mention gender here. Dudes of all races, sexual orientations and walks of life.

  • http://twitter.com/Karandras_ Trent

    “the scene is the most diverse on the planet, with players from all races, sexual orientations, and walks of life.”

    I like that they didn’t mention gender here. Dudes of all races, sexual orientations and walks of life.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jacob-Paul-Schmidt/100002318807148 Jacob Paul Schmidt

    First off from what I have gathered from all the articles about ESports and The FGC there is a general idea that the FGC is a group of rowdy dirty people from a damp dark musty smelling arcade scene. That statement is just asinine. Aris is wrong no mater how you look at it and he tried to defend himself which shows his lack of judgement. 

    The FGC is diverse especially now more than ever with online gaming becoming the standard. So when I read articles trying to define the FGC and why Esports are bad it is silly to try define the community as one specific thing. 

    Yes ESports comes with rules. Do you think those rules will kill the hype or epic moments? (give me a break) So the argument I keep hearing is that the FGC will lose its self. God forbid we have to watch our mouths a little more. What a horrible thing to act slightly professional. With Esports comes more sponsers and more games sold. With that means longevity of the genre and a bigger audience and fresh new players. 

    I personally think a few people that defend the gritty idea of the FGC are shooting it in the foot and are being selfish.

  • Anonymous

     This article is a farce. That fact that you hide behind ethnic diversity to justify your “communities” acceptance of racial and sexist behaviors just shows how weak, dead-end, your scene is and clearly how little drive to succeed or even become profitable you guys are.

    Encouraging these behaviors and antics within your own community and pawning it off on ethnic diversity is straight up garbage. Having social standards of conduct, and representing yourselves in manner that brings money into the community would be the best, most logical way to grow. Am I right? Or am I right?

    The fact that Aris was following Miranda around with a camera
    broadcasting her hips and thighs to the internet, after she had told him
    that is not acceptable, just makes Aris (and those in agreement with
    him) seem like absolute scum.

    These behaviors are really unacceptable and you should make a stand against it. Or don’t, and let your dingy xenophobic racist sexist excuse of a scene die. Your call FGC.

    • http://www.facebook.com/victoly Matthew Taylor

      God forbid people can joke around using slurs, even if they’re against one’s own demographic.

    • Anonymous

      Sounds like your p*ssy hurts.

    • Anonymous

      Sounds like your p*ssy hurts.

    • Anonymous

      Sounds like your p*ssy hurts.

    • Anonymous

      Sounds like your p*ssy hurts.

  • Anonymous

     This article is a farce. That fact that you hide behind ethnic diversity to justify your “communities” acceptance of racial and sexist behaviors just shows how weak, dead-end, your scene is and clearly how little drive to succeed or even become profitable you guys are.

    Encouraging these behaviors and antics within your own community and pawning it off on ethnic diversity is straight up garbage. Having social standards of conduct, and representing yourselves in manner that brings money into the community would be the best, most logical way to grow. Am I right? Or am I right?

    The fact that Aris was following Miranda around with a camera
    broadcasting her hips and thighs to the internet, after she had told him
    that is not acceptable, just makes Aris (and those in agreement with
    him) seem like absolute scum.

    These behaviors are really unacceptable and you should make a stand against it. Or don’t, and let your dingy xenophobic racist sexist excuse of a scene die. Your call FGC.

  • Anonymous

     This article is a farce. That fact that you hide behind ethnic
    diversity to justify your “communities” acceptance of racial and sexist
    behaviors just shows how weak, dead-end, your scene is and clearly how little drive to succeed or even become profitable you guys are.

    Encouraging these behaviors and antics within your own community and
    pawning it off on ethnic diversity is straight up garbage. Having social
    standards of conduct, and representing yourselves in manner that brings
    money into the community would be the best, most logical way to grow.
    Am I right? Or am I right?

    The fact that Aris was following Miranda around with a camera
    broadcasting her hips and thighs to the internet, after she had told him
    that is not acceptable, just makes Aris (and those in agreement with
    him) seem like absolute scum.

    These behaviors are really unacceptable and you should make a stand
    against it. Or don’t, and let your dingy xenophobic racist sexist excuse
    of a scene die. Your call FGC.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, hipocrisy…

  • Anonymous

    Oh, hipocrisy…

  • Anonymous

    Damn, SRK is really censoring a joke? Lol. You guys really are some uptight assholes.

  • Anonymous

    Damn, SRK is really censoring a joke? Lol. You guys really are some uptight assholes.

  • Anonymous

    Damn, SRK is really censoring a joke? Lol. You guys really are some uptight assholes.

  • Anonymous

     I understand your point.  I just see it differently.  Bar Fights was promoted as a “fun” event.  People who attended said they could see themselves bringing their girlfriends to these kinds of events, or watching with friends and drinking a few beers.  I believe the intent of was to offer the viewers a different choice, with a different experience.  These events were called exhibitions, not tournaments, for a reason.  They were trying something new, having fun with it, and hoping  were having fun too. 

  • Anonymous

     I understand your point.  I just see it differently.  Bar Fights was promoted as a “fun” event.  People who attended said they could see themselves bringing their girlfriends to these kinds of events, or watching with friends and drinking a few beers.  I believe the intent of was to offer the viewers a different choice, with a different experience.  These events were called exhibitions, not tournaments, for a reason.  They were trying something new, having fun with it, and hoping  were having fun too. 

  • Mike Rotch

    I don’t really know what happened.  I don’t really care.  It probably was cooler than the video.

  • Mike Rotch

    I don’t really know what happened.  I don’t really care.  It probably was cooler than the video.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-McAlister/100001501270453 Brian McAlister

    I just wanted to let you guys know you have a typo in the title.  It should read “FGC stop being who you are, you’re screwing up our chances at getting $$$”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-McAlister/100001501270453 Brian McAlister

    I just wanted to let you guys know you have a typo in the title.  It should read “FGC stop being who you are, you’re screwing up our chances at getting $$$”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/douglas.pendleton Douglas E Pendleton

    Why are folks upset with Mike and Jago? I guess that is what you get for looking up to players,just play the game an leave all that fanboy shit to the birds.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gabrielclow Gabriel Moura

    You only watched the “drama”/”fake rivalry” thing because you wanted to, because you were into it in the first place. Watching a reality show about fighting games is already ridiculous itself. I didn’t even know about any drama until I read this article. And here I was thinking it was basics on gameplay or something. What a waste of time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joshmutiny Josh Hollis

    I used to be part of the FGC… then I took an arrow to the knee.

    • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

      Arrow to the thigh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joshmutiny Josh Hollis

    I used to be part of the FGC… then I took an arrow to the knee.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OFCYXDKKYRGNIRO6A6OE2WYYPQ Nox Nyctores

    Its us versus the world on this case.

    In the eyes of the public, games are a child’s plaything. Watching people at these tournaments act like spoiled children only strengthens the stereotypes formed by them. Sure there may be certain people or tournaments where this is not the case, but the public rarely hears of this. The only news being leaked are the negatives.

    If you want people to see beyond the drama, you have to get EVERYONE (or at least a good chunk) to start acting like adults. Otherwise people will never take us seriously and won’t see past this “drama”.

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  • Anonymous

    This article is nice.  I really hate how some people try to say all gamers in the fighting game community are one way or another way. Notice how it’s always folks who aren’t even in the community saying this.  If you don’t know how the community is then don’t act like you know everything about it. Just like racists who say black people are this way or that way yet they aren’t black, it’s just ignorant.

    Another problem is the trolls who can’t stop even when the joke is not funny, they are a huge part of this problem.  I’m not saying everyone has to be all friendly, but know when to chill the hell out.  People know the difference between right and wrong. 

    Honestly I just wish people who aren’t apart of the community would stop taking sides in this issue.  It really isn’t helping and is blowing things way out of proportion.

  • danzo uchia

    really who gives this much crap about it, it’s not even that bad if she wanted to do something about it she would have with all the other people in the room it should be no prob! she asked him to stop i know and sometimes people don’t get it when you talk to them and need to be taught lesson, but this just ruins it for everybody for no reason!

  • danzo uchia

    really who gives this much crap about it, it’s not even that bad if she wanted to do something about it she would have with all the other people in the room it should be no prob! she asked him to stop i know and sometimes people don’t get it when you talk to them and need to be taught lesson, but this just ruins it for everybody for no reason!

  • http://twitter.com/DarkKirbyx DarkKirby

    The FGC community is amazing by itself being itself, pulling crap like Mike Ross and Jago, then Mike Ross having the nerve to say Arturo was the bad guy (when Arturo was just walking around streaming like he always does, and Jago even knew that Arturo does that) because the audience wants to be lied to for their own entertainment is total crap. No apology, actually saying they were lying to everyone for their own good because people want to be lied to “for fun”. Jago laughing at his loyal fans on Facebook for defending him in staged matches he didn’t care about.

    Aris went too far even though I don’t believe he meant to hurt Supeyan has he was just pulling the crap he’s known for, but Superyan was just being a “cat” by saying she was forfeiting because of that. What did she really give up by forfeiting? Nobody thought she would win. It’s a reality show, they had Aris on the show SO this could happen.

    I completely disagree that the FCG should be censored and pure politically correct like Starcraft. I know you want the FGC to be more attractive to corporate sponsors but censorship and pure political correctness as a requirement would take away what makes the FGC so fantastic. People are real, and act as they please, say what they want, and that’s awesome.

  • http://twitter.com/DarkKirbyx DarkKirby

    The FGC community is amazing by itself being itself, pulling crap like Mike Ross and Jago, then Mike Ross having the nerve to say Arturo was the bad guy (when Arturo was just walking around streaming like he always does, and Jago even knew that Arturo does that) because the audience wants to be lied to for their own entertainment is total crap. No apology, actually saying they were lying to everyone for their own good because people want to be lied to “for fun”. Jago laughing at his loyal fans on Facebook for defending him in staged matches he didn’t care about.

    Aris went too far even though I don’t believe he meant to hurt Supeyan has he was just pulling the crap he’s known for, but Superyan was just being a “cat” by saying she was forfeiting because of that. What did she really give up by forfeiting? Nobody thought she would win. It’s a reality show, they had Aris on the show SO this could happen.

    I completely disagree that the FCG should be censored and pure politically correct like Starcraft. I know you want the FGC to be more attractive to corporate sponsors but censorship and pure political correctness as a requirement would take away what makes the FGC so fantastic. People are real, and act as they please, say what they want, and that’s awesome.

  • Anonymous

    excelente articulo, sobre lo que se refieren aqui no tenemos en Mexico.

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  • Anonymous

    The sad thing is this doesn’t have to be a bit deal. Rather than getting uselessly defensive and just saying those views don’t represent the group, people could actually prove it and denounce those actions whenever they occur and demonstrate they are not tolerated.

  • Anonymous

    What most people fail to see is that this drama is actually helping to put fighting games on the map.

    Do you think sites like Destructoid, Kotaku or Giantbomb would have given a fuck about Cross Assault if there was no drama to it? Will anyone care about this blowup a few months from now?

    No, so thank you Aris.

  • Anonymous

    no one will tell you about the time a caster yelled some obscenity,

    Maybe not a FAVORITE moment of the FGC, but FUCK THE KNICKS!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=8230518 Mark Wins

    wait… so that whole “Mike Ross is a fraud” thing was a fraud? Like, it wasn’t even serious, yet playful jokes? My trust has been broken.

    That’s not all that I got from the article, by the way. The article speaks facts. I’m just disappointed that the Mike Fraud stuff was a mere gimmick…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=8230518 Mark Wins

    wait… so that whole “Mike Ross is a fraud” thing was a fraud? Like, it wasn’t even serious, yet playful jokes? My trust has been broken.

    That’s not all that I got from the article, by the way. The article speaks facts. I’m just disappointed that the Mike Fraud stuff was a mere gimmick…

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  • Anonymous

    Screw all these PC manginas Aris. Say what the f*ck you want dude.

  • Anonymous

    Screw all these PC manginas Aris. Say what the f*ck you want dude.

  • Anonymous

    Screw all these PC manginas Aris. Say what the f*ck you want dude.

  • Anonymous

    Screw all these PC manginas Aris. Say what the f*ck you want dude.

  • http://twitter.com/atheistium Lauren Wainwright

    First of all, fantastic article. I’m looking forward to your comments on sexism in the fighting game scene. 

    I’m well aware that Aris doesn’t speak for the majority of the games community but I think there is a genuine worry that he speaks for a good chunk of people who think sexism, in whatever culture (games, tech, fashion etc), is acceptable. 

    As someone who has been in the games community (not specifically the fighting one) for a LONNG time, it’s about time we realise that YES more people are getting into games, and YES things are becoming more accessible and mainstream. Games are becoming kind of cool. And NO that isn’t a bad thing. 

    We liked our little club back in the day. We felt safe, valued and a we all felt like we were contributing to something awesome. Communities of hundreds spanned into thousands and now hundreds of thousands possibly millions. Now you could feel like a small drop in a ocean of opinions. 

    But I think it’s more exciting to know I’m part of thousands and thousands of hard core fans from all backgrounds, races and genders, than part of a couple hundred white blokes who hate the new guy. 

    What’s wrong with things becoming more accessible and open? What’s wrong with new people joining in and discovering something you’ve loved for a long time?  

    The new person might not be as practised or skilled as you are but it doesn’t mean they enjoy or appreciate the game any less than you do. So why hate them?

    I think these events just bring everyone together. You make life friends and that’s an amazing thing.

  • http://twitter.com/atheistium Lauren Wainwright

    First of all, fantastic article. I’m looking forward to your comments on sexism in the fighting game scene. 

    I’m well aware that Aris doesn’t speak for the majority of the games community but I think there is a genuine worry that he speaks for a good chunk of people who think sexism, in whatever culture (games, tech, fashion etc), is acceptable. 

    As someone who has been in the games community (not specifically the fighting one) for a LONNG time, it’s about time we realise that YES more people are getting into games, and YES things are becoming more accessible and mainstream. Games are becoming kind of cool. And NO that isn’t a bad thing. 

    We liked our little club back in the day. We felt safe, valued and a we all felt like we were contributing to something awesome. Communities of hundreds spanned into thousands and now hundreds of thousands possibly millions. Now you could feel like a small drop in a ocean of opinions. 

    But I think it’s more exciting to know I’m part of thousands and thousands of hard core fans from all backgrounds, races and genders, than part of a couple hundred white blokes who hate the new guy. 

    What’s wrong with things becoming more accessible and open? What’s wrong with new people joining in and discovering something you’ve loved for a long time?  

    The new person might not be as practised or skilled as you are but it doesn’t mean they enjoy or appreciate the game any less than you do. So why hate them?

    I think these events just bring everyone together. You make life friends and that’s an amazing thing.

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