UMvC3 Spider-Man Basic Combos Revisited by Xero

by Redrapper on February 16th, 2012 at 2:12 am

Spider-Man was always a character with a lot of possibility in him ever since MvC3. He could rack up damage really quick thanks to un-scaled web throws and had a few slick resets that made him a big threat if you knew what you were doing. Although he lost the former in UMvC3– Spidey on the whole has gotten a LOT better(and that’s not to say he wasn’t good before, so don’t crucify me here guys.) So naturally since the interest in him has increased, the SRK forums resident Spidey-expert Xero put together this combo video showing off some basic stuff Spidey can do. If you’re at all interested in the character, this is a really great tool to help get beginners up to speed. It covers everything from just a basic launch-web swing into MS combo– all the way to some more intricate juggles so you can get a handle on how Peter moves along. Certainly helps that Xero’s got the notation at the bottom of the video as well. Smart stuff.

Source: Xero18

http://www.facebook.com/people/Reginald-Kelly/100001485769715 Reginald Kelly

Wheres the damage! lol jk jk. thanks
Anonymous

How has he gotten better if he needs two resets to do what he used to do in a single combo? His AD isn’t safe, his damage is mediocre, his gimmicky web cancel does nothing to control space and his OTG is amongst the worst in the game. The only improvement is damage off of throws and even that was something that could be overcome with an OTG assist.

He was underrated in MVC3. In UMVC3 he’s just dogshit at every level of play.
- Mike Schiller
  
  These are the most basic of basic combos, if you watch xero’s other vids you will see that Spidey does upwards of 900k anywhere on the screen with 1 meter with the right assists. The fact that he still does very high damage coupled with more consistent combos, more opportunities to confirm thanks to otg zip, and better movement from being able to cancel specials into zip, Spidey is clearly a better character than he was in the last game.
  
  tl;dr: Stop being a scrub.
  - Anonymous
    
    I’ve seen the vids. And you’re plain wrong on my counts. Movement is not improved one speck by web cancel. Ever tried getting in with web ball x xip? Slow as shit with less options than the now unsafe AD. OTG changes hitconfirms how exactly?
    - http://www.facebook.com/zrodadon Jonathan Wooden
      
      Actually he is better now Robo. His OTG is not that bad. There are definitely still others in the game that are worse than his. His damage output is still there just not as gimmicky, and his web cancels do a lot to his game and allow him to use more assist in the game and he doesn’t have to reserve a spot for an OTG now. Plus he doesn’t need to reset. He can in a lot of ways but it’s not necessary. He still does some of the most damage in the game for less meter, and averages more in damage now than he did in vanilla with the unscaled web throws so it’s no real nerf.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Reginald-Kelly/100001485769715 Reginald Kelly
        
        SpiderMan is not good in this game. When a character needs 2 assists to get to 900k they suck lol. Spidey needs at least one of those assists to make his approach sage. Captain America can kill 90% of the cast with doom missiles and 2 bars. does that make him S tier? no but he is High Tier IMO i had to say that
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Reginald-Kelly/100001485769715 Reginald Kelly
        
        SpiderMan is not good in this game. When a character needs 2 assists to get to 900k they suck lol. Spidey needs at least one of those assists to make his approach sage. Captain America can kill 90% of the cast with doom missiles and 2 bars. does that make him S tier? no but he is High Tier IMO i had to say that
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Reginald-Kelly/100001485769715 Reginald Kelly
        
        SpiderMan is not good in this game. When a character needs 2 assists to get to 900k they suck lol. Spidey needs at least one of those assists to make his approach sage. Captain America can kill 90% of the cast with doom missiles and 2 bars. does that make him S tier? no but he is High Tier IMO i had to say that
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Reginald-Kelly/100001485769715 Reginald Kelly
        
        SpiderMan is not good in this game. When a character needs 2 assists to get to 900k they suck lol. Spidey needs at least one of those assists to make his approach sage. Captain America can kill 90% of the cast with doom missiles and 2 bars. does that make him S tier? no but he is High Tier IMO i had to say that
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Reginald-Kelly/100001485769715 Reginald Kelly
        
        SpiderMan is not good in this game. When a character needs 2 assists to get to 900k they suck lol. Spidey needs at least one of those assists to make his approach sage. Captain America can kill 90% of the cast with doom missiles and 2 bars. does that make him S tier? no but he is High Tier IMO i had to say that
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Reginald-Kelly/100001485769715 Reginald Kelly
        
        SpiderMan is not good in this game. When a character needs 2 assists to get to 900k they suck lol. Spidey needs at least one of those assists to make his approach sage. Captain America can kill 90% of the cast with doom missiles and 2 bars. does that make him S tier? no but he is High Tier IMO i had to say that
- http://twitter.com/oBLACKSTARo oBLACKSTARo
  
  Spidey is a whole lot safer now. With his specials cancelling into zip, not only can Spidey players not have to worry about committing to a move that could end up him killed, but creative Spidey’s can set them up into resets too. His OTG might not be one of the best, but its also infinitely better than none at all, which means a) he is able to convert more openings into higher damage by himself now (such as off air throws, which before, gave him absolutely nothing), and b) he is a much more flexible character to have on teams, rather than having only 6 or so characters that he should be paired with and thats it. He’s also much more mobile too, which means it’s even more difficult for opponents to hit him to begin with.
  
  Yeah, it sucks that he lost his damage, but honestly, damage for the entire cast went down too, so it hurts, but not as much as you might think. In short, while in Vanilla, raw damage was pretty much the only thing Spidey had going for him, in Ultimate, he loses that but gains greater overall viability. Spidey players are pretty happy with him in this version.
  - RenaTurnip
    
    It went up for Spencer >~> Spidey don’t know nothin’ about swingin’.
    
    All considerations made, though, I can see Spider-Man being particularly crafty, if not asking for a lot of work from the player. There are at least a couple people out there trying their best with him, so it’ll only be a matter of time before we see him really shine.
  - Anonymous
    
    Only unsafe Special was Spider Sting, and you’d never be throwing that out raw. Spidey has always approached with his normals, not his combo fodder specials and his normals were always cancelable. Only raw special was web ball and trying to get in with web ball cancels gets beaten out by just about anything or blocked by anyone with the reactions of a tree stump. How is he more mobile when he lost his safe approach? Spidey has to commit when in the air now. He can’t just get in and then make a reactive decision like he used to, when you take your feet in the air you’ve either committed to a zip or AD or you’re floundering in the air with anaemic projectiles.
    
    He lost the best meterless damage in the game and movement for damage off of throws. Shitty trade considering the hole in his throw game could’ve been supplemented with assists.
    - http://www.facebook.com/zrodadon Jonathan Wooden
      
      You gave up on Spidey a while ago. That hole you’re referring to was not easily filled with an assist unless it was an OTG assist thus making it more of a wasted slot outside of combos. You can get in a lot more than you think with web ball xx zips and you really don’t have to commit with Spidey unless you are air dashing like crazy which was stupid to begin with even in vanilla. Also web swing was more susceptible to being air thrown in vanilla before jM ever came out. At least now you can zip to continue holding them and call an assist to help pin them.
    - Anonymous
      
      actually he is better theres ways to make the ad safe and the webzip cancel is a huge advantage not to mention with some practice the web zip otg is actually pretty easy you just actually have to take some time to learn the character
    - Anonymous
      
      actually he is better theres ways to make the ad safe and the webzip cancel is a huge advantage not to mention with some practice the web zip otg is actually pretty easy you just actually have to take some time to learn the character
- http://twitter.com/oBLACKSTARo oBLACKSTARo
  
  Spidey is a whole lot safer now. With his specials cancelling into zip, not only can Spidey players not have to worry about committing to a move that could end up him killed, but creative Spidey’s can set them up into resets too. His OTG might not be one of the best, but its also infinitely better than none at all, which means a) he is able to convert more openings into higher damage by himself now (such as off air throws, which before, gave him absolutely nothing), and b) he is a much more flexible character to have on teams, rather than having only 6 or so characters that he should be paired with and thats it. He’s also much more mobile too, which means it’s even more difficult for opponents to hit him to begin with.
  
  Yeah, it sucks that he lost his damage, but honestly, damage for the entire cast went down too, so it hurts, but not as much as you might think. In short, while in Vanilla, raw damage was pretty much the only thing Spidey had going for him, in Ultimate, he loses that but gains greater overall viability. Spidey players are pretty happy with him in this version.
- http://twitter.com/oBLACKSTARo oBLACKSTARo
  
  Spidey is a whole lot safer now. With his specials cancelling into zip, not only can Spidey players not have to worry about committing to a move that could end up him killed, but creative Spidey’s can set them up into resets too. His OTG might not be one of the best, but its also infinitely better than none at all, which means a) he is able to convert more openings into higher damage by himself now (such as off air throws, which before, gave him absolutely nothing), and b) he is a much more flexible character to have on teams, rather than having only 6 or so characters that he should be paired with and thats it. He’s also much more mobile too, which means it’s even more difficult for opponents to hit him to begin with.
  
  Yeah, it sucks that he lost his damage, but honestly, damage for the entire cast went down too, so it hurts, but not as much as you might think. In short, while in Vanilla, raw damage was pretty much the only thing Spidey had going for him, in Ultimate, he loses that but gains greater overall viability. Spidey players are pretty happy with him in this version.
- Anonymous
  
  While his damage was nerfed he can still easily hit 1mil with basic DHC’s combo’s. In terms of raw damage he can still kill in 1 hit so his damage nerf isn’t as big of a deal as you are making it out to be.
  
  No ones AD is safe anymore that doesn’t make it any less useful as a mobility tool. Let’s not forget the fact that he can block out of ziplines so he is one of the few chars with large amounts of safe mobility. Also his air movement is faster.
  
  He has 100% safe srk’s because of the web cancel and on block he gains the advantage. Also web balls/zip lines means he has Guile like projectile approaches. These aren’t meant to hit/combo off rather force the opponent into block situations. Also the zipline angle is very hard to counter/deal with for a large majority of the cast in the game. (For some reason no projectiles/moves go at upward angles)
  
  His OTG does what it’s supposed to do. Again with a DHC he can easily hit 800k+ while building a bar off throw situation so whatever. But I do agree his OTG is pretty ass but it’s better then nothing.
  
  He is better in UMvC3 this isn’t even debatable. He was a pure damage gimmick in vanilla but now he has strong offensive/defensive options. The problem I notice a lot of people have though with the changes is that they are still trying to play him like his MvC3 counter-part. If you honestly think he is bad now you have to rework your team/combos/understanding of the char and you’ll change your mind about him. He is easily top 10/15 now.
  - Anonymous
    
    actually spidey ad can be safe if you hit confirm your oppent with heavy or special at the moment when the ad gives spidey momentum it will cause enough block stun to be completely safe much like magnetos ad to get in not to mention spiderman has one of the best ads it goes full screen fairly quickly great for people who try to zone alot. spidey should almost always cancel his ad with heavy or special.
Anonymous

How has he gotten better if he needs two resets to do what he used to do in a single combo? His AD isn’t safe, his damage is mediocre, his gimmicky web cancel does nothing to control space and his OTG is amongst the worst in the game. The only improvement is damage off of throws and even that was something that could be overcome with an OTG assist.

He was underrated in MVC3. In UMVC3 he’s just dogshit at every level of play.
Anonymous

How has he gotten better if he needs two resets to do what he used to do in a single combo? His AD isn’t safe, his damage is mediocre, his gimmicky web cancel does nothing to control space and his OTG is amongst the worst in the game. The only improvement is damage off of throws and even that was something that could be overcome with an OTG assist.

He was underrated in MVC3. In UMVC3 he’s just dogshit at every level of play.
Anonymous

spidey! you da mannnnnnnn
Anonymous

Heh, actual basic combos, good stuff. And I guess it’d depend on your definition of “better”. Spider-man is a bit more varied now and has a slightly better pressure game if you get the right assists. You can’t get 1.1-1.2 mil off with 1 meter anymore, but you can do 1.1-1.15 mil with 2 meters depending on your team. The airdash nerf certainly hurt, but it just means you have to be much more patient with your approach and your runaway isn’t as annoying. Getting more chances to convert off of all throws(in most situations anyway) was a nice addition. I’m having fun with the current Spider-man. It’s a lot more work now, but hey if I wasn’t up to that, I would have picked Vergil and Wesker by now.
- http://www.facebook.com/zrodadon Jonathan Wooden
  
  But no one was doing any of the combos that allowed Spidey to get that much damage with one bar so not much has changed. Also Spidey can get 1M of one bar in this game with the right team.
  - Anonymous
    
    I wouldn’t be surprised since no one really wanted to run Doom, Shuma, or Trish(characters that I know of that can help set up multitple web throws) with Spidey. What’s the team that can do the 1 mil damage combo btw? With Spider-man, Iron Man, and Shuma, the best I can do is about 947k on one meter.
    - http://www.facebook.com/zrodadon Jonathan Wooden
      
      Honestly it’s mostly just Spiderman/Doom. I throw in Iron Man to make it easier now but it’s still mostly Spiderman/Doom since Iron Man is not needed to get that damage still.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZYZXYSHIHAX46JEN5NE7OMMKEM Cerei

So I see Xero decided to make another video with actual basic combos. lol

Spidey can hit for 900-1m dmg with Doom Hidden Missles and 1 meter. In terms of damage potential, Doom is Spidey’s best friend in this game. Iron man and others can get close, but currently Doom reigns high for Spidey in terms of damage. Regardless, I can only think of a few characters in this game that can hit that that high for less than 1 meter+1 assist and barely a few more with select assists. Want to whine about how these are only a few characters in the game that can help Spidey’s damage? Sure, but the point is moot considering in Vanilla Spidey’s damage was only good with even less select assists as well.

In Ultimate, Spidey can hit for 850+ with a broader scope of assists and 800+ with the broadest scope of assists and solo. Now I don’t know about you, but I’m pretty damn sure all the damage I’m referring to will either kill or knock off most of the health of anyone in the cast; 1m in Vanilla still isn’t enough to kill some of the cast. If the character survives, then just chip him out or land another hit-confirm, both of which you would have to do in Vanilla also yet is leagues and bounds easier in Ultimate.

We cannot simply narrow our scopes and say “Spidey does 100-200k less damage now”. No, we have to look at the overall scope of exactly what it takes to kill a character. If a character has 850k and Spidey puts in 849k, who cares if they would have died against Vanilla Spidey when Ultimate Spidey can simply chip the character for the rest (not even a hit-confirm) and run away with more metagame capabilities than his predecessor?

Point is, put all this information on a graph and you’ll find that it takes less effort, if not just as much for some of the cast, to kill a character/team cumulatively. More viable assists+More hit-confirms+More mobility+More safe moves+all the crap that’s above this post=Better Damage character.

Ooops. Was the damage drop the entire opposing argument for Spider-Man? My b.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZYZXYSHIHAX46JEN5NE7OMMKEM Cerei

So I see Xero decided to make another video with actual basic combos. lol

Spidey can hit for 900-1m dmg with Doom Hidden Missles and 1 meter. In terms of damage potential, Doom is Spidey’s best friend in this game. Iron man and others can get close, but currently Doom reigns high for Spidey in terms of damage. Regardless, I can only think of a few characters in this game that can hit that that high for less than 1 meter+1 assist and barely a few more with select assists. Want to whine about how these are only a few characters in the game that can help Spidey’s damage? Sure, but the point is moot considering in Vanilla Spidey’s damage was only good with even less select assists as well.

In Ultimate, Spidey can hit for 850+ with a broader scope of assists and 800+ with the broadest scope of assists and solo. Now I don’t know about you, but I’m pretty damn sure all the damage I’m referring to will either kill or knock off most of the health of anyone in the cast; 1m in Vanilla still isn’t enough to kill some of the cast. If the character survives, then just chip him out or land another hit-confirm, both of which you would have to do in Vanilla also yet is leagues and bounds easier in Ultimate.

We cannot simply narrow our scopes and say “Spidey does 100-200k less damage now”. No, we have to look at the overall scope of exactly what it takes to kill a character. If a character has 850k and Spidey puts in 849k, who cares if they would have died against Vanilla Spidey when Ultimate Spidey can simply chip the character for the rest (not even a hit-confirm) and run away with more metagame capabilities than his predecessor?

Point is, put all this information on a graph and you’ll find that it takes less effort, if not just as much for some of the cast, to kill a character/team cumulatively. More viable assists+More hit-confirms+More mobility+More safe moves+all the crap that’s above this post=Better Damage character.

Ooops. Was the damage drop the entire opposing argument for Spider-Man? My b.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZYZXYSHIHAX46JEN5NE7OMMKEM Cerei

So I see Xero decided to make another video with actual basic combos. lol

Spidey can hit for 900-1m dmg with Doom Hidden Missles and 1 meter. In terms of damage potential, Doom is Spidey’s best friend in this game. Iron man and others can get close, but currently Doom reigns high for Spidey in terms of damage. Regardless, I can only think of a few characters in this game that can hit that that high for less than 1 meter+1 assist and barely a few more with select assists. Want to whine about how these are only a few characters in the game that can help Spidey’s damage? Sure, but the point is moot considering in Vanilla Spidey’s damage was only good with even less select assists as well.

In Ultimate, Spidey can hit for 850+ with a broader scope of assists and 800+ with the broadest scope of assists and solo. Now I don’t know about you, but I’m pretty damn sure all the damage I’m referring to will either kill or knock off most of the health of anyone in the cast; 1m in Vanilla still isn’t enough to kill some of the cast. If the character survives, then just chip him out or land another hit-confirm, both of which you would have to do in Vanilla also yet is leagues and bounds easier in Ultimate.

We cannot simply narrow our scopes and say “Spidey does 100-200k less damage now”. No, we have to look at the overall scope of exactly what it takes to kill a character. If a character has 850k and Spidey puts in 849k, who cares if they would have died against Vanilla Spidey when Ultimate Spidey can simply chip the character for the rest (not even a hit-confirm) and run away with more metagame capabilities than his predecessor?

Point is, put all this information on a graph and you’ll find that it takes less effort, if not just as much for some of the cast, to kill a character/team cumulatively. More viable assists+More hit-confirms+More mobility+More safe moves+all the crap that’s above this post=Better Damage character.

Ooops. Was the damage drop the entire opposing argument for Spider-Man? My b.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZYZXYSHIHAX46JEN5NE7OMMKEM Cerei

So I see Xero decided to make another video with actual basic combos. lol

Spidey can hit for 900-1m dmg with Doom Hidden Missles and 1 meter. In terms of damage potential, Doom is Spidey’s best friend in this game. Iron man and others can get close, but currently Doom reigns high for Spidey in terms of damage. Regardless, I can only think of a few characters in this game that can hit that that high for less than 1 meter+1 assist and barely a few more with select assists. Want to whine about how these are only a few characters in the game that can help Spidey’s damage? Sure, but the point is moot considering in Vanilla Spidey’s damage was only good with even less select assists as well.

In Ultimate, Spidey can hit for 850+ with a broader scope of assists and 800+ with the broadest scope of assists and solo. Now I don’t know about you, but I’m pretty damn sure all the damage I’m referring to will either kill or knock off most of the health of anyone in the cast; 1m in Vanilla still isn’t enough to kill some of the cast. If the character survives, then just chip him out or land another hit-confirm, both of which you would have to do in Vanilla also yet is leagues and bounds easier in Ultimate.

We cannot simply narrow our scopes and say “Spidey does 100-200k less damage now”. No, we have to look at the overall scope of exactly what it takes to kill a character. If a character has 850k and Spidey puts in 849k, who cares if they would have died against Vanilla Spidey when Ultimate Spidey can simply chip the character for the rest (not even a hit-confirm) and run away with more metagame capabilities than his predecessor?

Point is, put all this information on a graph and you’ll find that it takes less effort, if not just as much for some of the cast, to kill a character/team cumulatively. More viable assists+More hit-confirms+More mobility+More safe moves+all the crap that’s above this post=Better Damage character.

Ooops. Was the damage drop the entire opposing argument for Spider-Man? My b.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZYZXYSHIHAX46JEN5NE7OMMKEM Cerei

So I see Xero decided to make another video with actual basic combos. lol

Spidey can hit for 900-1m dmg with Doom Hidden Missles and 1 meter. In terms of damage potential, Doom is Spidey’s best friend in this game. Iron man and others can get close, but currently Doom reigns high for Spidey in terms of damage. Regardless, I can only think of a few characters in this game that can hit that that high for less than 1 meter+1 assist and barely a few more with select assists. Want to whine about how these are only a few characters in the game that can help Spidey’s damage? Sure, but the point is moot considering in Vanilla Spidey’s damage was only good with even less select assists as well.

In Ultimate, Spidey can hit for 850+ with a broader scope of assists and 800+ with the broadest scope of assists and solo. Now I don’t know about you, but I’m pretty damn sure all the damage I’m referring to will either kill or knock off most of the health of anyone in the cast; 1m in Vanilla still isn’t enough to kill some of the cast. If the character survives, then just chip him out or land another hit-confirm, both of which you would have to do in Vanilla also yet is leagues and bounds easier in Ultimate.

We cannot simply narrow our scopes and say “Spidey does 100-200k less damage now”. No, we have to look at the overall scope of exactly what it takes to kill a character. If a character has 850k and Spidey puts in 849k, who cares if they would have died against Vanilla Spidey when Ultimate Spidey can simply chip the character for the rest (not even a hit-confirm) and run away with more metagame capabilities than his predecessor?

Point is, put all this information on a graph and you’ll find that it takes less effort, if not just as much for some of the cast, to kill a character/team cumulatively. More viable assists+More hit-confirms+More mobility+More safe moves+all the crap that’s above this post=Better Damage character.

Ooops. Was the damage drop the entire opposing argument for Spider-Man? My b.
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