Godlike Controls Responds To Cthulhu Lag Issues Vs. Eightarc Fusion

This is a legit concern and the fact that Toodles took the time to go through extensive testing to show us all the facts is something not to be rubbed off and labeled as a petty “My dick is bigger than yours” ordeal. I’d show more respect to not only Toodles, but all of Tech Talk for being damn good at what they do and showing us the beauty of the electronics side of arcade sticks and the like.

Be grateful they are here to teach us the ropes and educate us. Remember that they could just blatantly refuse to help or offer services to anyone. Who would you ask/what would you refer to then when you can’t figure out how to do dual mod a HRAP V3SA? How bout upgrading a Sega HSS-0130?

Great and informative post d3v!

Exactly.  It’s good that Toodles not only did these tests to make sure his products are sound but also made it possible for anybody to double check his work.  A mark of a man with integrity.  I’m glad I just purchased some gear from him (should be here in a day or two).

this a true statement!

this a true statement!

Correct, they both use the SunGa board, a board shrouded in mystery.  They’re separately purchasable.  We’ve had this discussion on SRKTT but none of us except Missing Person has really had a good look at the board itself.

-mr.mortified

Correct, they both use the SunGa board, a board shrouded in mystery.  They’re separately purchasable.  We’ve had this discussion on SRKTT but none of us except Missing Person has really had a good look at the board itself.

-mr.mortified

It is pretty well-known that at base, the Eightarc and the Qanba are essentially the same stick.  The Eightarc even says “Qanba” on it.

Also, as indicated by Joe SRKTT, the Cthulhu is a PCB that adds support for the PS3.  It’s not really necessary to do the test on a 360, because the board being used wouldn’t be a Cthulhu — it’d be whatever 360 board the Cthulhu had been paired with, such as a Mad Catz TE board or something.

I wouldn’t expect anything else from one of Toodles products, and I have respect for the fact that he has shown that his board doesn’t lag compared to the Eightarc.  I think the title of the article should be changed to reflect that the product does not in fact lag!  (Hopefully by the time some people read this, it will already have been done.)

It is pretty well-known that at base, the Eightarc and the Qanba are essentially the same stick.  The Eightarc even says “Qanba” on it.

Also, as indicated by Joe SRKTT, the Cthulhu is a PCB that adds support for the PS3.  It’s not really necessary to do the test on a 360, because the board being used wouldn’t be a Cthulhu — it’d be whatever 360 board the Cthulhu had been paired with, such as a Mad Catz TE board or something.

I wouldn’t expect anything else from one of Toodles products, and I have respect for the fact that he has shown that his board doesn’t lag compared to the Eightarc.  I think the title of the article should be changed to reflect that the product does not in fact lag!  (Hopefully by the time some people read this, it will already have been done.)

Nah, counter-hits in SF4 happen when you interrupt the startup animation.

Nah, counter-hits in SF4 happen when you interrupt the startup animation.

SF4 isn’t like some games where there is a clash feature when both inputs are executed at the same time nulling out hte original move.  The game handles simultaneous inputs as a registration of both hits at the same time. 
Fighting games register all moves in a system of 60 frames per second.  Ryu’s standing fierce has a 5 frame startup and 7 frames active, meaning after the 5th frame of the move, the punch is active for 7 frames.  By one having lag with respect to another, one board would register the input at lets say with the respect to the other board when the board has already finished 1 frames of startup.  At this point one board is behind by 1 frames and does not execute the move before the other board.  That 1 frame difference is the difference between getting a simultaneous hit or a counter hit.

That difference is lag

SF4 isn’t like some games where there is a clash feature when both inputs are executed at the same time nulling out hte original move.  The game handles simultaneous inputs as a registration of both hits at the same time. 
Fighting games register all moves in a system of 60 frames per second.  Ryu’s standing fierce has a 5 frame startup and 7 frames active, meaning after the 5th frame of the move, the punch is active for 7 frames.  By one having lag with respect to another, one board would register the input at lets say with the respect to the other board when the board has already finished 1 frames of startup.  At this point one board is behind by 1 frames and does not execute the move before the other board.  That 1 frame difference is the difference between getting a simultaneous hit or a counter hit.

That difference is lag

SF4 isn’t like some games where there is a clash feature when both inputs are executed at the same time nulling out hte original move.  The game handles simultaneous inputs as a registration of both hits at the same time. 
Fighting games register all moves in a system of 60 frames per second.  Ryu’s standing fierce has a 5 frame startup and 7 frames active, meaning after the 5th frame of the move, the punch is active for 7 frames.  By one having lag with respect to another, one board would register the input at lets say with the respect to the other board when the board has already finished 1 frames of startup.  At this point one board is behind by 1 frames and does not execute the move before the other board.  That 1 frame difference is the difference between getting a simultaneous hit or a counter hit.

That difference is lag

This would have been useful.  I can’t fathom the Cthulu beating an actual PS3 stick though, so he probably omitted that test to avoid the situation altogether.

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Isn’t that considered “lazy”? Sounds like a sound idea, never played BlazBlue.

the input buffer in bb wouldnt matter, you would get the same effect in sf as you would in bb for stuff like this. the input buffer is only there to make combos easier to do

Word. Just got my Optical Sensor from him, just boss! Love it!

But the problem is that it uses Quanba guts.  For instance, someone can put a mask on you, but, surprise, you’re still a troll inside.

But the problem is that it uses Quanba guts.  For instance, someone can put a mask on you, but, surprise, you’re still a troll inside.

The proper use of the word “technology.”

The proper use of the word “technology.”

That’s Toodles for you. Keep in mind that a couple of years ago, he suspected that wireless controllers had some lag, so he did a similar test and found that they ddin’t. He posted the testing methodology in detail and the results, in spite of his presumption being wrong. Toodles cares about the truth.