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Scorpion’s Full-Screen Spear Strategies in MK9

RedRaptor posted an interesting Mortal Kombat 9 video the other the other day that explores some of the possibilities available to Scorpion players in regards to his full-screen spear. It can be used quite safely to find another opening for your next combo when coupled with his air throw and a back dash. There are a few characters that it’s difficult to catch in this trap, so check out the video for some of the finer details.

Source: RedRaptor via TestYourMight

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Perry-Ellick/100003116945282 Perry Ellick

    Don’t you mean “Full screen Spear tech”?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Damon-Wayne-Luker/1513332777 Damon Wayne Luker

    Aw, the MK players just learned about meaties :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Damon-Wayne-Luker/1513332777 Damon Wayne Luker

    Aw, the MK players just learned about meaties :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Damon-Wayne-Luker/1513332777 Damon Wayne Luker

    Aw, the MK players just learned about meaties :)

    • Moribund Cadaver

      Maybe some day if they get REALLY GOOD at playing fighting games, they’ll even get MK at EVO!

      But I don’t think that would really happen.

      • http://twitter.com/corpsegrindr895 Brendan Sullivan

        ummm?

      • http://twitter.com/corpsegrindr895 Brendan Sullivan

        ummm?

      • Joshua Peveto

        Huh? You trollin, boy?

      • Joshua Peveto

        Huh? You trollin, boy?

      • Joshua Peveto

        Huh? You trollin, boy?

        • shadow111431

          He was being sarcastic.

        • shadow111431

          He was being sarcastic.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002626482972 Rem Sevreign

      I’ve got a meaty for ya, big boy <3

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002626482972 Rem Sevreign

      I’ve got a meaty for ya, big boy <3

    • Mikaël Conan

      Lol,seriously this is fucking sad. How is this even remotely worthy of being on the front page?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=809006529 Albert Marsh

        Yet Skull Girls and BlazBlue is?  

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7KV45KFNBYGWSBF4IVIHRRQDI Nathan

          SHOTS FIRED

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7KV45KFNBYGWSBF4IVIHRRQDI Nathan

          SHOTS FIRED

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7KV45KFNBYGWSBF4IVIHRRQDI Nathan

          SHOTS FIRED

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7KV45KFNBYGWSBF4IVIHRRQDI Nathan

          SHOTS FIRED

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=809006529 Albert Marsh

        Yet Skull Girls and BlazBlue is?  

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=809006529 Albert Marsh

        Yet Skull Girls and BlazBlue is?  

    • Mikaël Conan

      Lol,seriously this is fucking sad. How is this even remotely worthy of being on the front page?

    • Mikaël Conan

      Lol,seriously this is fucking sad. How is this even remotely worthy of being on the front page?

    • Mikaël Conan

      Lol,seriously this is fucking sad. How is this even remotely worthy of being on the front page?

    • Mikaël Conan

      Lol,seriously this is fucking sad. How is this even remotely worthy of being on the front page?

  • Tyler Rogers

    Lol. Strategy in MK? Its called shell out a few extra dollars for a DLC character, and play them.

  • Tyler Rogers

    Lol. Strategy in MK? Its called shell out a few extra dollars for a DLC character, and play them.

    • http://www.facebook.com/langdon.herrick Langdon Herrick

      And the eyes just keep on rolling.

    • http://www.facebook.com/langdon.herrick Langdon Herrick

      And the eyes just keep on rolling.

    • http://www.facebook.com/langdon.herrick Langdon Herrick

      And the eyes just keep on rolling.

    • http://www.facebook.com/langdon.herrick Langdon Herrick

      And the eyes just keep on rolling.

    • http://www.facebook.com/langdon.herrick Langdon Herrick

      And the eyes just keep on rolling.

    • http://www.facebook.com/langdon.herrick Langdon Herrick

      And the eyes just keep on rolling.

    • http://www.facebook.com/langdon.herrick Langdon Herrick

      And the eyes just keep on rolling.

    • Anonymous

      ALAKAZAM! an idiot appeared out of thin air :)

    • Anonymous

      ALAKAZAM! an idiot appeared out of thin air :)

  • Tyler Rogers

    Lol. Strategy in MK? Its called shell out a few extra dollars for a DLC character, and play them.

  • http://twitter.com/MikoSenpai Ace Anego Hakurei

    Wait, people never tried this out before? Are the balance patches really that rapid?

  • Brandon Carlson

    It’s awesome that Red Rapper is supporting the MK community.  So refreshing given the ocean of hateful trolling.

  • Steve Shannon

    Wait, wasn’t it scientifically proven that MK9′s CPU training mode options are broken as fuck?

    Also Seth’s meaty tanden engine in SF4 is way more broken than this and that’s definitely not front page material. Oh no, I have to block a spear. A little chip and some free meter for my opponent.

    I was hoping they were going to talk about how bullshit hellfire is and how to catch people jumping with anti-air spear full screen.

    It’s not a bad video, it just doesn’t belong here.

    • Anonymous

      If you actually played the game you would know that Scorpion also has the option of hellfire in this situation forcing you to…push buttons #Screwed-up

      • Steve Shannon

        If you weren’t a jackass you would realize that hellfire and spear are too slow at this range to actually work as a mixup.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

          Except that you must block, you can’t jump out, or duck, or doing ANYTHING but block. It’s a safe meaty attack that creates a mixup.  There are very few counters to the said tatic, and this video is just highlighting the options.

          Seth’s meaty tanden engine is not broken, and it has been like that since forever. Stop using broken when you don’t even know the meaning of therm.  The point of this is to show off Scorpion options in this game. Nobody cares about 3 year old Seth tech that isn’t broken.

          You don’t get awards for being a jerk.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

          Except that you must block, you can’t jump out, or duck, or doing ANYTHING but block. It’s a safe meaty attack that creates a mixup.  There are very few counters to the said tatic, and this video is just highlighting the options.

          Seth’s meaty tanden engine is not broken, and it has been like that since forever. Stop using broken when you don’t even know the meaning of therm.  The point of this is to show off Scorpion options in this game. Nobody cares about 3 year old Seth tech that isn’t broken.

          You don’t get awards for being a jerk.

          • Steve Shannon

            Seth’s meaty tanden engine can be +19 on block and if spaced correctly recovers fast enough that if they jump or whatever you can punish it while their reversal whiffs unless it’s a forward moving ultra, etc. If they backdash to escape you just time it a little later and it catches their backdash. On block you get a great mixup. This is why I said it was better than spear – combo on hit, safe mixup on block.

            I know what broken means, I was just using a bit of hyperbole. Doesn’t mean I don’t know what ‘broken’ means. It refers to when something is so good that it breaks down/dumbs down the game.

            He lists a bunch of reversals that beat the spear.

            There is no mixup here because the spear is telegraphed based on the setup. You won’t think “he’s going to hellfire me so I should jump” because you will SEE the spear. If you want a *mixup* you should go for meaty hellfire or NOTHING and then on reaction spear them in the air if they jump. The spear will only catch people up closer where it’s faster and harder to predict.

            Like I said before, it’s a good setup because it’s safe. But it’s not a mixup and it’s not really interesting enough to be on the front page.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

            Comparing two games with the same concept is silly,  Since when does Seth’s setup being better than a MK9 setup means that a MK9 tatic shouldn’t be front page? By your logic, we should never front page SF4 because MVC3 has more “game breaking” setups? This is seriously just a moronic argument to be completely honest. Broken by the way is game breaking, no you don’t want the term mean because your use of the term is ignorant.  Afterall you apparently said that MK9 training room is broken…

            Ignoring the nonsensical SF4 VS MK9 argument, there is no reason to believe this setup isn’t safe. There is a only selective few that avoid the attack.  The spear setup in the video is meant to be at fullscreen, and will catch people at fullscreen.  Since the setup is safe, he can mixup it with a hellfire if the oppotent believes that they don’t have to move.  Like I said, this is on the front page because nobody knows about the competitive tactics of MK9.  Everybody knows what SF4 metagame is like, not so much with MK9 here because nobody never talks about it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

            Comparing two games with the same concept is silly,  Since when does Seth’s setup being better than a MK9 setup means that a MK9 tatic shouldn’t be front page? By your logic, we should never front page SF4 because MVC3 has more “game breaking” setups? This is seriously just a moronic argument to be completely honest. Broken by the way is game breaking, no you don’t want the term mean because your use of the term is ignorant.  Afterall you apparently said that MK9 training room is broken…

            Ignoring the nonsensical SF4 VS MK9 argument, there is no reason to believe this setup isn’t safe. There is a only selective few that avoid the attack.  The spear setup in the video is meant to be at fullscreen, and will catch people at fullscreen.  Since the setup is safe, he can mixup it with a hellfire if the oppotent believes that they don’t have to move.  Like I said, this is on the front page because nobody knows about the competitive tactics of MK9.  Everybody knows what SF4 metagame is like, not so much with MK9 here because nobody never talks about it.

          • Steve Shannon

            Seth’s meaty tanden engine can be +19 on block and if spaced correctly recovers fast enough that if they jump or whatever you can punish it while their reversal whiffs unless it’s a forward moving ultra, etc. If they backdash to escape you just time it a little later and it catches their backdash. On block you get a great mixup. This is why I said it was better than spear – combo on hit, safe mixup on block.

            I know what broken means, I was just using a bit of hyperbole. Doesn’t mean I don’t know what ‘broken’ means. It refers to when something is so good that it breaks down/dumbs down the game.

            He lists a bunch of reversals that beat the spear.

            There is no mixup here because the spear is telegraphed based on the setup. You won’t think “he’s going to hellfire me so I should jump” because you will SEE the spear. If you want a *mixup* you should go for meaty hellfire or NOTHING and then on reaction spear them in the air if they jump. The spear will only catch people up closer where it’s faster and harder to predict.

            Like I said before, it’s a good setup because it’s safe. But it’s not a mixup and it’s not really interesting enough to be on the front page.

          • Steve Shannon

            Seth’s meaty tanden engine can be +19 on block and if spaced correctly recovers fast enough that if they jump or whatever you can punish it while their reversal whiffs unless it’s a forward moving ultra, etc. If they backdash to escape you just time it a little later and it catches their backdash. On block you get a great mixup. This is why I said it was better than spear – combo on hit, safe mixup on block.

            I know what broken means, I was just using a bit of hyperbole. Doesn’t mean I don’t know what ‘broken’ means. It refers to when something is so good that it breaks down/dumbs down the game.

            He lists a bunch of reversals that beat the spear.

            There is no mixup here because the spear is telegraphed based on the setup. You won’t think “he’s going to hellfire me so I should jump” because you will SEE the spear. If you want a *mixup* you should go for meaty hellfire or NOTHING and then on reaction spear them in the air if they jump. The spear will only catch people up closer where it’s faster and harder to predict.

            Like I said before, it’s a good setup because it’s safe. But it’s not a mixup and it’s not really interesting enough to be on the front page.

          • Steve Shannon

            Seth’s meaty tanden engine can be +19 on block and if spaced correctly recovers fast enough that if they jump or whatever you can punish it while their reversal whiffs unless it’s a forward moving ultra, etc. If they backdash to escape you just time it a little later and it catches their backdash. On block you get a great mixup. This is why I said it was better than spear – combo on hit, safe mixup on block.

            I know what broken means, I was just using a bit of hyperbole. Doesn’t mean I don’t know what ‘broken’ means. It refers to when something is so good that it breaks down/dumbs down the game.

            He lists a bunch of reversals that beat the spear.

            There is no mixup here because the spear is telegraphed based on the setup. You won’t think “he’s going to hellfire me so I should jump” because you will SEE the spear. If you want a *mixup* you should go for meaty hellfire or NOTHING and then on reaction spear them in the air if they jump. The spear will only catch people up closer where it’s faster and harder to predict.

            Like I said before, it’s a good setup because it’s safe. But it’s not a mixup and it’s not really interesting enough to be on the front page.

          • Steve Shannon

            Seth’s meaty tanden engine can be +19 on block and if spaced correctly recovers fast enough that if they jump or whatever you can punish it while their reversal whiffs unless it’s a forward moving ultra, etc. If they backdash to escape you just time it a little later and it catches their backdash. On block you get a great mixup. This is why I said it was better than spear – combo on hit, safe mixup on block.

            I know what broken means, I was just using a bit of hyperbole. Doesn’t mean I don’t know what ‘broken’ means. It refers to when something is so good that it breaks down/dumbs down the game.

            He lists a bunch of reversals that beat the spear.

            There is no mixup here because the spear is telegraphed based on the setup. You won’t think “he’s going to hellfire me so I should jump” because you will SEE the spear. If you want a *mixup* you should go for meaty hellfire or NOTHING and then on reaction spear them in the air if they jump. The spear will only catch people up closer where it’s faster and harder to predict.

            Like I said before, it’s a good setup because it’s safe. But it’s not a mixup and it’s not really interesting enough to be on the front page.

          • Steve Shannon

            Seth’s meaty tanden engine can be +19 on block and if spaced correctly recovers fast enough that if they jump or whatever you can punish it while their reversal whiffs unless it’s a forward moving ultra, etc. If they backdash to escape you just time it a little later and it catches their backdash. On block you get a great mixup. This is why I said it was better than spear – combo on hit, safe mixup on block.

            I know what broken means, I was just using a bit of hyperbole. Doesn’t mean I don’t know what ‘broken’ means. It refers to when something is so good that it breaks down/dumbs down the game.

            He lists a bunch of reversals that beat the spear.

            There is no mixup here because the spear is telegraphed based on the setup. You won’t think “he’s going to hellfire me so I should jump” because you will SEE the spear. If you want a *mixup* you should go for meaty hellfire or NOTHING and then on reaction spear them in the air if they jump. The spear will only catch people up closer where it’s faster and harder to predict.

            Like I said before, it’s a good setup because it’s safe. But it’s not a mixup and it’s not really interesting enough to be on the front page.

          • Steve Shannon

            Seth’s meaty tanden engine can be +19 on block and if spaced correctly recovers fast enough that if they jump or whatever you can punish it while their reversal whiffs unless it’s a forward moving ultra, etc. If they backdash to escape you just time it a little later and it catches their backdash. On block you get a great mixup. This is why I said it was better than spear – combo on hit, safe mixup on block.

            I know what broken means, I was just using a bit of hyperbole. Doesn’t mean I don’t know what ‘broken’ means. It refers to when something is so good that it breaks down/dumbs down the game.

            He lists a bunch of reversals that beat the spear.

            There is no mixup here because the spear is telegraphed based on the setup. You won’t think “he’s going to hellfire me so I should jump” because you will SEE the spear. If you want a *mixup* you should go for meaty hellfire or NOTHING and then on reaction spear them in the air if they jump. The spear will only catch people up closer where it’s faster and harder to predict.

            Like I said before, it’s a good setup because it’s safe. But it’s not a mixup and it’s not really interesting enough to be on the front page.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

          Except that you must block, you can’t jump out, or duck, or doing ANYTHING but block. It’s a safe meaty attack that creates a mixup.  There are very few counters to the said tatic, and this video is just highlighting the options.

          Seth’s meaty tanden engine is not broken, and it has been like that since forever. Stop using broken when you don’t even know the meaning of therm.  The point of this is to show off Scorpion options in this game. Nobody cares about 3 year old Seth tech that isn’t broken.

          You don’t get awards for being a jerk.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

          Except that you must block, you can’t jump out, or duck, or doing ANYTHING but block. It’s a safe meaty attack that creates a mixup.  There are very few counters to the said tatic, and this video is just highlighting the options.

          Seth’s meaty tanden engine is not broken, and it has been like that since forever. Stop using broken when you don’t even know the meaning of therm.  The point of this is to show off Scorpion options in this game. Nobody cares about 3 year old Seth tech that isn’t broken.

          You don’t get awards for being a jerk.

      • Steve Shannon

        If you weren’t a jackass you would realize that hellfire and spear are too slow at this range to actually work as a mixup.

      • Steve Shannon

        If you weren’t a jackass you would realize that hellfire and spear are too slow at this range to actually work as a mixup.

  • Steve Shannon

    Wait, wasn’t it scientifically proven that MK9′s CPU training mode options are broken as fuck?

    Also Seth’s meaty tanden engine in SF4 is way more broken than this and that’s definitely not front page material. Oh no, I have to block a spear. A little chip and some free meter for my opponent.

    I was hoping they were going to talk about how bullshit hellfire is and how to catch people jumping with anti-air spear full screen.

    It’s not a bad video, it just doesn’t belong here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Yahkim-Siffel/100001370016186 Yahkim Siffel

    Damn this is like the most ignorant, troll filled hate fest I have on SRK in awhile lmao :D

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Yahkim-Siffel/100001370016186 Yahkim Siffel

    Damn this is like the most ignorant, troll filled hate fest I have on SRK in awhile lmao :D

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U7KV45KFNBYGWSBF4IVIHRRQDI Nathan

    I believe Kanye West said “If they hate then let em hate and watch the money pile up”.

    Whats that? 3 million units sold? MK haters MAD?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXLAI352VUPEBETNWWTNE57XS4 Mihail Palov

      I like MK but 2 minute videos that can be explained in 1 sentence and contain common knowledge shouldn’t be on the front page.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000504766571 Milton O’Bannon

        just like all of those mvc3 “combo vids” that spring on the front page every second. Just what should be on the front page? This is a FG site and anything FG realated will be here if noticed. I don’t see the problem with it being on front page or not.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000504766571 Milton O’Bannon

        just like all of those mvc3 “combo vids” that spring on the front page every second. Just what should be on the front page? This is a FG site and anything FG realated will be here if noticed. I don’t see the problem with it being on front page or not.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000504766571 Milton O’Bannon

        just like all of those mvc3 “combo vids” that spring on the front page every second. Just what should be on the front page? This is a FG site and anything FG realated will be here if noticed. I don’t see the problem with it being on front page or not.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXLAI352VUPEBETNWWTNE57XS4 Mihail Palov

      I like MK but 2 minute videos that can be explained in 1 sentence and contain common knowledge shouldn’t be on the front page.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Thandrophir Thand

      Wasn’t that 50 Cent?

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Thandrophir Thand

      Wasn’t that 50 Cent?

      • shadow111431

        Kanye West definitely said it. It is possible the 50 said it first but I wouldn’t know. I believe the name of the song he said it in was “Good Life.”

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Thandrophir Thand

      Wasn’t that 50 Cent?

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Thandrophir Thand

      Wasn’t that 50 Cent?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Joseph-Fehir/510492883 Scott Joseph Fehir

    in other news, if you knock a guy down with Sub-Zero, you can throw a freeze at him and maybe possibly hit him.  Oh wait, this is pretty much how fireballs work in all fighting games.  Ok then….

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

      Except that a meaty ice-ball doesn’t force the oppotent to block.  The setup here is not some random knockdown. It’s a setup where you cannot tech roll, and you must block a spear.

      Cripes people here are jerks about anything that isn’t Capcom.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

      Except that a meaty ice-ball doesn’t force the oppotent to block.  The setup here is not some random knockdown. It’s a setup where you cannot tech roll, and you must block a spear.

      Cripes people here are jerks about anything that isn’t Capcom.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

      Except that a meaty ice-ball doesn’t force the oppotent to block.  The setup here is not some random knockdown. It’s a setup where you cannot tech roll, and you must block a spear.

      Cripes people here are jerks about anything that isn’t Capcom.

      • Steve Shannon

        Actually yes you can throw a meaty ice ball that they can’t crouch underneath. It’s useful off a slide. Until they just start blocking but then whatever.

        This is because the game forces you to stand the instant you wake up. Most fireballs you can crouch underneath work the same way – you have to block them on wakeup.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

          *sighs* a meaty iceball is not going to force you to block.   Because a meaty ice-ball can be tech roll.  That’s why Scorpion does a AIR THROW, to create a meaty fireball setup.  Unlike Sub-zero, Scorption spear creates a combo if they don’t block.

          It’s not remotely close to being the same thing.

          • Steve Shannon

             And you CANNOT TECH A SLIDE.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

            And it’s not the same setup. Deal with it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

            And it’s not the same setup. Deal with it.

          • Steve Shannon

             And you CANNOT TECH A SLIDE.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Basil-Bisiolu/100000804618260 Basil Bisiolu

          *sighs* a meaty iceball is not going to force you to block.   Because a meaty ice-ball can be tech roll.  That’s why Scorpion does a AIR THROW, to create a meaty fireball setup.  Unlike Sub-zero, Scorption spear creates a combo if they don’t block.

          It’s not remotely close to being the same thing.

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