Kotaku Editorial Names Daigo, Justin Wong, and Alex Valle in Top Competitive Gaming Moments

A new guest editorial on Kotaku, written by Rod “Slasher” Breslau, names the top 10 moments in competitive gaming history (across many genres). On the list, you’ll find Alex Valle vs Daigo Umehara in Street Fighter Alpha III, and then Daigo vs Justin Wong in 3rd Strike. This list, above all reasons, is worth checking out because it includes footage of each of the named moments. Head over and give it a read and watch some of these epic matches.

  • Sinnn

    The Daigo/Justin Wong parry better be in there somewhere.

    • TrollThisSRK

      maybe read the article? Or at least the TITLE OF THE POST before you comment? Maybe?

  • piskooooo

    >kotaku

    • White Ren

      kotaku is a good site XD

  • LauZ

    Evo moment #37 is #1 on this list.
    Seems about right.

  • zer0cool

    “Before the Justin Wong/DaigoUmehara rivalry blossomed to what it is today”

    There is no rivalry, a rivalry would imply that the are on equal ground, Daigo bea(s)ts Wong consistently.

    Daigo’s MadCatz’ team mates are probably his closest rivals.

    • magocyber

      I totally agree with you, I can’t remember or if it has happened Justin beating Daigo on tournament Final, but still some sort of rivalry just because of the fact that Justin has been the top US all around player,

    • Racketpunch

      Have you played a sport or payed attention to any type of sport? There are rivalries everywhere regardless of skill level.

      You have to be crazy to not admit there’s some type of rivalry between those top two players.

    • Mr.Chang

      Stop loving Daigo so much. Justin has beat Daigo during the Season’s Beatings 2010 teams. Team US and Team International were at 14-14. Then, Justin beat Daigo to win it for Team USA. Justin probably beat him a bunch of times when he was in Japan for SBO.

    • tallshortguy

      This is when I know someone doesn’t watch, is aware of, or knows anything about athletic sports.

  • mechanicalgrape

    Some fact checking by Slasher would be nice. It says Justin won the match.

    • TrollThisSRK

      it also says grubby is “the best western Warcraft 3 player of all time” and the dude is Dutch…..I guess white = western?

      • NegroNinja

        Um..yes generally speaking, it does.

      • Windsagio

        you think Europeans aren’t western? >>

        • TrollThisSRK

          so asia = east
          everything else = west

          That sure makes geographical sense.

          West = North America/South America
          Most of Europe = East of Prime Meridian, therefore East.

          Suck it.

          • mr. tibbs

            You’re a fucking child.

            Argue with my FACTS. I dare you.

          • TrollThisSRK

            My argument is based on geographical location
            The other is based on white = western

            ….

            This makes me sound like a child….i see.
            I pity you, mr tibbs.

          • OrehRatiug

            Can’t tell if trolling or just stupid, gonna go with stupid.

          • stormin fiasco

            Ever heard of the silk road? The new land that Europeans found from traveling that road East was Asia. That’s been the eastern world ever since. So yeah.

            Asia = east
            everything else = west

          • SOyun

            how does it feel to realize you are stupid and everything you knew until today is a complete lie?. You got served son!

  • Sir Alex

    Yeah, it incorrectly states that Justin won the match instead of Daigo. Still an interesting read.

  • TheRetroKid

    a half-assed attempt at getting back into the fighting game scene’s good graces after schiler’s holier-than-thou article.

    • ekaj

      this was a guest article by slasher after he flamed the shit out of kotaku

  • TrueSephiroth

    The fact that they didn’t even put Justin Wong vs Yipes 2007 Evolution Moment makes this Top-10 list pretty much fail.

    Daigo vs Wong at evo2k4 is not even remotely as epic as Wong vs Yipes match up. Parrying SAII is absolutely not even comparable to being down 1 character vs Yipes nearly full life MSP group. There’s no stupid parry option to get you out of safety.

    Wong was throwing out psychic Gene Splices and takes out Mags, Storm and Psylocke. That was the greatest comeback at Evolution ever and to not be in that top-10 makes it lose merit.

    Btw, on a note here, that Valle vs Daigo. They were supposed to play Two styles, the first one Japanese style with 1-set only, and then a Best out of 5 match US style.

    If you noticed, Valle Actually WON the 1st set which was Japanese style, but the Capcom reps “mysteriously” just let them play and once Daigo went up 2-1 they just gave Daigo the win. Hmm.

    • TrollThisSRK

      The fact that this ‘epic moment’ took place in a game that most of the world considers to be shitty might be a factor, just sayin.

      • PurpleLemonadeGGPO

        username

      • freija

        are you nuts

        • TrollThisSRK

          Are you? Argue with my FACTS. I dare you.

          • alvare

            I love this guy.

      • zer0cool

        Marvel is the ‘Smash Bros’ of Capcom games

        • Unable to Connect

          Nope. Marvel isn’t a party game. Smash is.

          • redmetal

            ive played marvel at parties before :D

      • TrueSephiroth

        @TrollThisSRK You can’t be serious when you made the statement there. ALOT of people played MvC2 back then, oh I’m sorry Japan didn’t care, but so what.

        This is about the Greatest Competitive Gaming Moments, its not about “Popular competitive game can only make it on the list” nonsense. This list is obviously fail here. It’s clear the guy is new to the scene and doesn’t know enough.

        What about Valle’s Comeback from the Famous B2 with his Sagat vs Choi’s 65% life Ken? How’s that not in the Top-10 gaming moments? Has everyone forgotten about that? This was Valle in his prime, and nobody in the World could touch him in Alpha 2 back in this day, and the only guy to be able to contend against him was Choi.

        That was one of the Greatest Moments in the Competitive World (Imo, Top-3 hands down considering how significant it was at its time). I’m sure their was alot more prior to that even in the fighting game community however with lack of videos we don’t have anything to fall upon besides the story.

        • magocyber

          when you mention that “nobody in the WORLD could touch Valle”, That is an over statement, same was said about Alpha 3 he was beating everyone, Daigo came over and beat him, point is you can make this kind of statements, sure is your opinion but base on what? Did Valle when around the world beating anyone who fought him?
          you sound like that guy from youtube LAAKUMA, who swears that daigo ain’t shit compare to TOMO OHIRA, which could be true but who knows.
          now why do I bring Daigo into the table, well he is the one who beat Valle back then

          • TrueSephiroth

            @magocyber

            Let me educate you here. It’s without a doubt that Valle is the Best Alpha 2 Player on the Planet during the prime of that games life. He destroyed everyone here in the States, and he also destroyed everyone Internationally.

            You might not know, but he actually went to Japan during the time of Alpha 2 and schooled every single top player their for free. Hence, Greatest Alpha 2 Player on the Planet. That’s not an opinion, its a fact. Go back and read my post on Alpha 3 when Valle vs Daigo went off. Valle actually Won the Japanese Set, as how both of them were told prior too. The Capcom reps were supposed to have Japanese 1-set win and American Best out of 5. They never lived up to what they had told both players prior to playing one another, hence why you saw Valle talking to the Reps when Daigo “magically” won 2-1. So please, get your head straight on.

            As for Laakuma, do you seriously not know who that is? That’s Jeff Schaeffer, one of the greatest OG SFII Players of the Golden Era. He has every right to state Tomo>>>Daigo. Anyone who was there to play Tomo during his prime would vouch for that, not just Jeff. Ask Apoc, Kuni (A Japanese Zangief player that Daigo Had to switch to O. Sagat in order to beat, but Tomo schooled Kuni w/ nobody besides Ryu, and Guile), Watson, Kwang, etc, etc, they’ll all tell you.

            Jeff also played and beat Daigo and even perfected All of Daigo’s Best Characters in SFII while using Guile, a character that wasn’t his main during his zenith. He’s not trying to disrespect Daigo, because The Beast is a great SFII player, however in comparison to the Great SFII players of the Past, Daigo’s abilities would be Upper-Tier. Go and look up Tomo’s resume first before you like to make that assumption. Jeff’s not talking out of his ass, its just 99.9% of you people don’t know enough about the Past SF Greats, hell, most of you don’t even know how dominant Valle was back in the mid-late 90′s and he came after Tomo and co.

        • magocyber

          you mention something that many people will still argue, that Alpha 3 match for the world championship, it was always clear to me that they were supposed to play 2 out 3 games and 3 out of 5 rounds, I was not there when that fight took place, let me ask you were you there, or someone close to you was? or you’ve learned the details of the fight by looking on the internet or a friend of yours who was at the fight let you know how everything when down?
          I’m not trying to start an argument with you, cause it seems you have more knowledge than me, however looking at some videos, there is a guy with a bullhorn who was dictating the rules of the fight and he clearly states 2 out of 3 games and 3 out of 5 games and something about the looser being able to switch characters, here is the link of the video and LMK what u think about it.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyGyGUv4KCE&feature=player_detailpage#t=4s

          • TrueSephiroth

            @Magocyber

            The information that I received was from Alex Valle himself whom posted the tournament and the incident here at srk.com a few years back. I forgot which thread it was in, but it was one pertaining to OG SF players and the history of their play.

            Valle stated that the Capcom reps told Daigo and him that they would first play the traditional 1-Set Japanese style, and then play the American Best out of 5 Set style.

            As was seen, Valle won the first set, but the Capcom Reps did not live up to their word and instead quickly anointed Daigo the winner after being up 2-1. A pretty bullshit call by the Capcom Reps, and Valle did speak with the rep afterwards, however he wasn’t bitter about it.

            If it was me, I would’ve been pissed. You tell me one thing and do another, that’s hogwash.

    • Ouroborus

      this.

      no mention of clockw0rk vs neo, no mention of yipes, nor is there any mention of sanford vs duc.

    • js2756

      Except if you actually watch the video, the guy on the megaphone says in the first 10 seconds, “2 out of 3 games with 3 out of 5 rounds”. Valle can say all he wants about not having a fair match, but the video evidence shows that what you’re claiming is false.

  • TrollThisSRK

    2 out of top 10 being street fighter is pretty cool. If there were 3 it would have to be the “Mike Ross, I believe” moment.

  • RoboGem II

    I gotta agree the JWong Cyclops come back against Yipes should be up there. Glad someone listed the Combofiend BIONIC AAAAARM comeback at least in comments!

  • The Phantomnaut

    Shoutouts to Jen Schiller.

  • PurpleLemonadeGGPO

    Article sounds like it was written by someone new to the fighting game scene trying his best to report on what happened during moments where he wasn’t there. “Justin won the match” That’s why after Daigo vs Justin, Daigo went on to fight KO in Grand Finals, right?

    • PurpleLemonadeGGPO

      The effort is appreciated though overall. I must channel my inner-jackass.

  • MaikkyWin

    Kotuku should commit sudoku.

    • cong

      It’s called SEPPUKU. Learn to troll.

      • MaikkyWin

        sure.

        • Midersaw

          Don’t worry. I laughed hard.

  • specs

    Kotaku is garbage. Just throwin’ that out there.

  • Crown Clown

    Not only is Kotaku garbage it was written by Slasher which in turn was only given the chance after last weeks Kotaku editorial that said e-sports was boring piece just for damage control so Kotaku does not lose its credibility as a gamers news portal.

  • Dander

    Can’t help but mention the competitors when talking about the master. Word.

  • neezy

    John Choi Vs. Bas in CvS2, SooMighty Vs. Wong in MvC2 5on5.

  • Skone

    Hmm, The same website who claimed E-Sports were shit, and then writes about the awesome moments in E-sports.

    FUCK YOU Kotaku!

    Plz don’t visit this website and give them traffic. Its the same website who complains about people not liking their new redesign when it was in fact the shittiest website design, and the website who shits on E-sports and now writes an article to praise it. Fuck that shit, dont visit and just ignore them from now on.

    • Dander

      How do you think most of you noobs got to srk in the first place?

      • Skone

        Sir, try to make some sense before you tough your keyboard plz.

  • Immaculate

    I’m happy to see the jwong vs daigo match was first

  • PS728

    The list was OK but since Starcraft is in there and this doesn’t apply to just consoles, pretty much THE most epic competitive gaming moment wasn’t even listed and that’s SK Gaming vs HON in the IEM Global Finals World of Warcraft:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7duX4QpVaAQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy8UZR72o9c

    The gravity of the situation is what makes it THE best in competitive gaming IMO. This is not some sub tourny this is the GLOBAL grand finals, for $30,000. HON is down 2-1 games in a first to 3 set and OrangeMarmalade pulls out the 2v1 to keep his team in the finals and they actually go on to claim 1st.
    When the money is on the line, can you be THIS clutch?

  • Expiriment Kow

    No mention of clockw0rk vs Neo?

  • Mr.Chang

    Justin vs Daigo but not Justin’s comeback on Yipes in MvC2. Remember! There aint no X-factor in MvC2. Honestly, Kotaku is very biased especially in terms of more oriental vs matches. Maybe 1 of them were between 2 westerners.

  • gboblyn

    Opinion based top 10 lists always have the same comments: “How can X not be in there but Y is?!?” “X should be way higher than Y” “X is bullshit blah blah blah”.

    I think Slasher did a pretty good job (other than the obvious errors which I’m sure he’ll have to answer for on LO3). He obviously tried to get matches from several games to give a good sample of what competitive gaming is all about. If you have additions to the list post them up in the comments, that’s kind of what they’re for.

  • ShadowoftheDarkgod

    Shitty list from a shitty site.

  • Divine Tenken

    Great read.

  • Slashered

    Hey, Slasher here. Yes, the very end should be Daigo winning, not Justin, didn’t mean to put that, I do know who won ;p. In terms of not picking X, Y & Z match, it’s really hard to put some diversity across all games and genres, matches will be left out. I think I did a pretty good job of highlighting the ones that matter. Brood War was by far the hardest.

  • Ectoplasm on Toast

    Kotaku is on damage control. I can’t say I blame them, Jen Schiller let being a gaming journalist go to her head and acted like it was Jentaku. Her behavior doesn’t represent Kotaku as a whole, even though I do dislike Kotaku as a whole for other reasons. She’s just one person who, unfortunately, got in her superiors’ good graces through good behavior long enough to have her time on the soapbox. I’m still not impressed, though. Maybe have front page articles about events, even if it’s just the huge ones. I think events like EVO that draw tens of thousands of viewers, or Dreamhack that capped at 200,000 VIEWERS, on a gaming blog, are a little more important to the gaming community than yet another article about a Japanese idol saying she loves Dragon Quest in an interview. Kotaku doesn’t just brush such events under the rug, they pretty much ignore them completely.

    • Skone

      Bullshit!

      So you’re saying Kotaku doesn’t even look at their posts before an article is published? Its either that, or they agreed with the article. Either way, it just poor and unprofessional.

      Honestly, everyone should just stay off Kotaku. Reddit was right. Go support Joystiq, GiantBomb, and RockPaperShotgun instead.

      • CurlyW

        Because the people who own SRK always look at Keits et al’s posts before they are published, correct?

  • CurlyW
    • ShadowoftheDarkgod

      I feel sad for you having looked up and read all those Kotaku articles.

      • CurlyW

        Quick searches for Evo, Street Fighter, Justin Wong, Daigo, Mike Ross, etc. Took me two minutes.

    • CurlyW

      Full disclosure: I interned for Gawker last summer as a comment moderator and covered the Chicago MvC3 Fight Night event for Kotaku (although they never used any of my images). I do not personally know anyone who works there (although I know a few of the Gawker writers). I feel that what Jen Schiller wrote was unnecessarily insulting to competitive gaming, but I do not believe that her opinion reflects the opinion of most of Kotaku’s writing staff.

      And I believe when you look up “gawd-fucking-awful” in the dictionary, you find a picture of the Gawker Media redesign.

  • Eileithyia

    why people in srk are mad all the time?

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